I've played on both PC and 360, and I prefer 360 myself. PC is only good if you want mods, and have a good PC. On my PC, Fallout 3 Lags terribly, freezes constantly, and half of the "great" mods I downloaded just made it to where I had to crank every seting down to the lowest settings. On the 360, I have no lag, I didn't have to sit through a lengthy download, and I get good graphic and visual settings. These PC vs. Console arguements are hard to keep civil, and I wasn't suprised to see the first few comments being "pc for mods and such" to fix things that weren't broken. I still play both F3 and Oblivion on my PC, but everytime I start it up, I end up going back to my 360 to play them. The mods just kill the experience for me, and even without mods, it looks terrible and is almost unplayable due to lag.

What silly question, PC ofcourse. Why, PC is the best thing around now since Windows 7 works so well.

And when I tried to play halo 3 on my original xbox, it wouldn't even read the disc?

What's up with that, man. Worthless piece of junk.

...are you serious? This is OT but, the Xbox is a completely different machine from the XBox 360. That's the reason original XBox games don't always work on the 360. Some do, but most don't...

Sounds like you bought a used game, either that or your console got old. Pc's do it to, you have to replace them every so often. Instead of throwing civility out the window and using one bad experience you had with a console to "attack" me for being a console player, how about you come up with a real excuse besides "IT STOPPED WORKING D: "

Computers die to, I've gone through 3 in the last 6 years.

About the guy who want to play Halo 3 on the original xbox.. I think the girl with a weapon made it clear.



Same here.
Fallout 3 is one of the games I prefer to play on xbox.


For me it's the same exactly, in some games I like to have mods but sometimes they have killed the whole thing. In Fallout 3 I just used the Gary 23 glitch and the Rl-3 one to get more companions, and it was perfect.
In general FO3 is a games that doesn't need modding in order to be fully enjoyable, is very good as it is.

I've heard this, actually I saw it on the forums for Fallout 3 DLC. I haven't tried it yet, I tried installing it I was able to get to the actual install screen. It installed, but then popped up saying it didn't install correctly. So I just said "screw it", and started playing without any DLC. It doesn't make much of a difference anyway since I wasn't going to head from 101 straight to the DLC.

I also agree with others about the mods. Some of it is really good and worth checking out. Personally, I like the idea of bringing in features from New Vegas like ammunition sub-types.

But I've found that a lot of mods actually make the game unbalanced, or take out the most core elements of Fallout like the Pipboy. I know of at least one mod that dropped the Pipboy in favor of a more modern handheld GPS unit. I find those "personal touch" mods take more away then they add. Don't get me wrong though, mods are a great for devs. to support. It may not add too much replay value for people like myself. But it gives players the chance to change something they didn't like, or add in something they think the game could have benefited from.

You guys.
My point was that trying to run a modern game on hardware that doesn't support it is just like trying to run a this-gen game on a last-gen console, and using that as an example of the medium is a bad idea. I had hoped my post was sufficiently stupid to make the sarcasm clear, maybe I need more hurrs and durrs next time.

Anyway, personally I completely disagree that mods "kill the experience". If you find a mod you don't like, don't install it - I really do fail to see how abusing a glitch to get a half-assed feature is in any way better than installing a mod to do it /right/. Not to mention the ten thousand other mods doing everything from adding live iguanas, to power armour upgrades and power requirements, to damage threshold, to making the doors to settlements close (Because really, rivet city *never closes that bridge again*?), to adding flashlights and removing the ambient lighting in metros, to just about anything you can imagine. Yeah, even /that/, if you go to japanese sites.

A mod can never make your experience worse, if it does you stop using it. Simple as that.

This, and this alone is the sole reason why the PC version is superior to the console version (on any particular console). And I don't mean on the basis of just downloading mods other have made that are considered "great community mods" (not that I am knocking those, I personally run a very hefty mod list), but that you can go and adjust/tweak/change/add anything you want in the game. Developers can make great games, and I agree 100% with other who have said FO3 is a great game that can stand on its own merit without the need of mods, but the ability to mod means you are not just limited to the developers vision of what a good game is (because no developer will ever make a personalized game for their fans since you can never satisfy everyone).

Now, if you are in the boat where you have a PC that can't handle running the game really to begin with then I would say go for the console (because, again, the game does not need mods). If your PC can take it though, I would absolutely get it for the PC just to have that ability of personalization at my fingertips on demand.

Let me put my input this way (and yes, I played FO3 on both Xboox 360 and PC, as well as Morrowind and Oblivion on both console and PC).

Until Western artists learn aesthetically appealing art or simply hire East Asian artists to do the character art, I need mods for almost any game. Of course, I can play the Western games anyway, and every so often one will actually have aesthetically appealing characters so that I actually care about the characters and events taking place. However, in 99% of the Western products, the only value is surface entertainment because I cannot feel any empathy with the characters due to a needless focus on "realistic" aesthetics, or some pointless concern about political correctness as perceived by an artist, developer, or even company executive.

It annoys me to no end that even Japanese companies will "adjust" content to supposedly appeal to Western audiences (e.g., consider how Star Ocean: The Last Hope's interface was changed for the North American XBox 360 release... and thank goodness choice was offered for the PS3 international release!) News flash for these companies: many consumers in the Western markets do NOT want "realistic" character designs or aesthetics! That has nothing whatsoever to do with establishing empathy with characters and actually caring enough to play the game product. In fact, just the opposite is true - many people will not play such products because they cannot establish enough empathy with characters to care enough to bother playing. There is a reason why so many people around the world play the games from East Asian markets, after all, and it isn't a small percentage of the global consumer market.