Sorry you feel that way, were certainly not treated like kings, the game is made to be put on the 360 console and ported over to PS3 an PC. The 360 got the DLC first, the reason the PC has mods and the G.E.C.K. is Micro$oft an Sony will not allow for them, an yes it over money. As for the mods they are love from the PC community, mod makers pour the heart, time, and talent into making them, for free.



A PC that can play Fallout would only be a couple hundred more than a console price now, yea for some that is a lot of extra cash, but even less for the peeps who got there console when they first hit the stores when they were a lot more expensive. I'm sure the PC and PS3 will get the DLC at some point we usually do.



No the developers didn't use the GECK to make the game, they made the GECK for us to mod the game. The GECK as it stands is a bit limiting to make the game, besides it's meant for PC usage and the game was ported over to PC from 360 console.



Now a days most games come out for one console or the other and it's ported over to PC as an after thought since there is more money to be made on consoles, look at it they sell you the system and make money of the game. PC games are always cheaper to buy than console version, the only true way to get what you want is save up the cash and buy a PC then you'll have your mods and GECK.

bigcrazewolf

I actually got Fallout: New Vegas for PC at first, but i decided to buy it to my console afterwards. I just find it a lot funnier to play games on consoles than PC.

I really loved that you could get mods, but i still didn't find it as satisfying as playing it on the console. The ability to get mods to the consoles would complet my life, but there's a very tiny chance of that happening. :sadvaultboy:

If it's the definition of it then yeah I guess I do, but not community made, developer made, one's that are provided by official sources.


Gotta start somewhere. :angel:

There is nothing wrong with community made fixes, changes, mods....anyway some of the best game modifying stuff is from mods just check out http://www.newvegasnexus.com/ some of the better improvement in NV were inspired by mods. Bethesda has already said http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1160177-creation-engine-and-kit/page__view__findpost__p__17019742 as well as the way shooting arrows in Skyrim will be changed due to a mod from Oblivion.




It may start there for you but it would never end for the thousands of other wants from, this one to that one....it's just not feasible and cost prohibitive, and console are just to limited for it as well.


bigcrazewolf

Well it's up to the developers so if they do include a DLC that gives new options to the game to check/uncheck and keep updating it then they can choose whenever they want to to stop.
Everyone wont get what they want, they'll create the options that they want to create/have time to create.
But hey, at least "some" options would be put into the game right? The way I see it: it's better than nothing.

God, I wish I had the money to invest in a PC that could handle Fallout or Oblivion. It'd be cool if Bethesda included some sort of basic console construction set.

If you don't mind me asking. How much do you have invested into your console?

bigcrazewolf

Being a part of the glorious PC gaming master race feels good, man.

Nah, I find mods to be completely overrated. Only good if you want your character to look like some kind of anime real-doll..... Apart from the ones that fixes bugs.

Lots.... LOTS!
I have around 40 to 50 xbox games, some I bought on sale but half of them I bought on release date...
But money isn't the only problem though.
With a PC I'd have to learn a lot about what I actually "need" and "how" to upgrade and install it and then find out where to get it.
Then I need to constantly check up if I have the latest functions and make sure I don't mess around with anything so I corrupt it.
Might be a cakewalk for regular PC users but I have very little time for these kinds of things at the moment.

Yeah yeah, "it's my own fault" blah blah blah...
Still... If it's possible to bring some stuff from the PC community over to the console community without using user created mods/patches/japanese schoolgirls, then I say "do it."
Not like it's going to hurt anyone if they do decide to give the console users a wider range of options.

Well PC stuf has become easier to manage than years ago, and if you ever make the leap, I will help you as I'm sure many other folks here would as well.


Hey if the mods I make could be on consoles FOR FREE I would be :twirl: but thanks to the console gods :stare: , it's a non-issue :sadvaultboy:, as for more options, because of all the I want in my game options desires, it could never make everyone happy it's also not gonna happen :shakehead:


bigcrazewolf

True.
*sigh*
Well, New Vegas is an unbalanced and predictable game the second time around and I'm at my fifth playthrough so I think I'll stop playing soon anyway, gonna buy the DLC's for lore but other than that the game is starting to become dead to me.
It's just not challenging enough (Weightaholic :stare: We're... Not... Having... "That"... Argument again...) to be interesting anymore.
So until I get a PC so I can mod the game to be more challenging or a DLC that increases the difficulty instead of lowering it I think I'm not going put New Vegas on the shelf soon.
Hopefully they'll get Skyrim and Fallout 4 right.

But I'll still keep my smug scaly ass around these forums.

No, once your PC has been put together it pretty much runs itself. You can update drivers often if you want, but runtimes are always included with a game.
PCs aren't some magical boxes you can never understand, they actually can't do anything complex at all - they just do simple things really, really fast. You pretty much can't break a modern OS without knowing what you're doing and giving yourself the neccesary rights to do it. Building a PC is pretty fun, very easy, and will get you a lot more comfortable with your hardware - I know exactly what's in my box, and what each bit is doing. When I hear a noise, I know what's making it, and I probably know why (because let's face it, there are only a few noises it can make), but a console? Not a clue, and if something goes wrong? Off to the manufacturer.

I'd actually go as far as to say that PC gaming is easier than console gaming - I don't have to worry about discs being damaged, I don't have to worry about it overheating or damaging game media, I don't have to worry about losing my saves, or it just /failing/ one day. It's also, over medium-long term, cheaper, more flexible, and gives you a better PC for day-to-day work (You ain't never lived 'till you've used MS office at 10,000fps).

Of course, consoles have a lower initial price of entry and don't require a minimum of research to join. They're also much better for spontaneous local multiplayer, though I argue that LAN parties keep the crown for planned local multiplayer.
Thing is, once you get below a certain level, if you're only using either as a toy, purely to play games... they both play games. Any is a legitimate choice, you just have to figure out which machine's strengths you prefer. And modding is a strength of the PC, where resource scarcity is much less of an issue, so you can add a lot more stuff before you run out of space to put it. So, the short sentence "Want mods? Get a PC." isn't elitist clap-trap, it's just a strength of the PC.

Well it's nice to have your smug scaly ass around.

And if you ever need any more motivation to PC it look http://www.newvegasnexus.com/ often :whistling:

bigcrazewolf

i totally agree with reaper, i miss fighting supermutants also, and i miss fighting the enclave, they were fun to fight, some people after FO3 said, "we need new enemies, no more supermutants or enclave" well they got what they wanted, hardly any more supermutants and no enclave to fight, well you know what, powder gangers and the viper gang or even ceasers legion or ncr.. ARE NOT NEARLY AS FUN TO FIGHT as super mutants and enclave were, so the problem is, obsidian took out the enclave and supermutants pretty much but didn't really replace them with another enemy, unless you count cazedores or geckos, neither of which are more fun to fight than supermutants.

The Enclave have been all but decimated in the west, so that's why their is no Enclave to shoot up.

bigcrazewolf

Erm, yes, they did. They also didn't "port" the game to the PC. They made the game on the PC, maybe with an Xbox audience in mind, but it was made on the PC using the GECK we use to make mods (give or take a few features).

I really should of explained myself better sorry, they used a version of the GECK and gave it to us minus some important stuff (mainly because of licensed issues probably), and of course they weren't made on a 360 but TES4, FO3, an FONV were made on computers for the 360 console as your said in mind and then ported over to the PS3 an PC....but that's how it is for almost all games now a days.

bigcrazeolf

no enclave = no fun, they were the were the best fallout enemy ever, obviously they weren't completely wiped out cause they were in FO3 in great quantity and just like how they supposedly were wiped out in FO2, you're saying the same thing again about FO3, the enclave aren't gone, they will re appear eventually, no super mutants and no enclave pretty much means no fallout ROFL, they are iconic, THEY ARE FALLOUT !

It would be nice, but it won't happen. Some day, when I can afford to drop a thousand dollars on the right PC and graphics card (just exactly how in the [censored] do you figure what you'll need on the low end of the price spectrum anyway?!), I'll get the Fallouts and some mods, but until then... I'm just gonna keep holding a controller. :shrug:

My PC was about $500 and I can run FO on highest settings.

bigcrazewolf

To say there is no Fallout without these two entities is ludicrous, your basically saying the game has nothing else to offer.....why even play the game at all :rolleyes:

bigcrazewolf

http://www.dell.com/us/p/studio-xps-9100/pd is probably all you need. Spend another $300 to 500 if you want to have max settings on Higher resolution & your set. It sure beats paying that amount on a wussy laptop & also paying for a console. Less clutter the better.

Guess I'll have to start saving up my welfare checks then.

Your option was to buy the game on PC or console. Morrowind? Better on PC. Oblivion? Better on PC. Fallout 3? Better on PC. Fallout: New Vegas? Another RPG built on the same general data engine and with the same moddability as the first three games. Dare I say....better on PC? There's a pattern here. Your "win" by going console is that your hardware costs less, your "win" by going PC is that you get access to mods and dev tools. Simple as that. I don't see why you should feel cheated by getting the console version, you knew what you were getting into. <_<

why? Because we pay monthly subscriptions on the Xbox. Why? Because PC users have mods! Why?! Because I said so! -_-