Console version vs PC version

Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:20 am

I was wondering if the PC version is going to be better than console. Either way, why?
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:35 am

No... Just no. To this thread I mean.


What's better than what applies to playstyles, time, and preference there is no definent better.
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:48 pm

Gameplay wise, no. Graphics wise yes, but only because they get scaled back for consoles to ensure best performance.

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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:59 pm

Looks like the full moon resurrects dead horses for another beating.


"Better" is simply a matter of what you want from the game.

Customization = PC
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:46 am

I was wondering if the PC version is going to be better than console. Either way, why?

For the LAST time (although this argument never ends), it depends on what console and how good the PC you are comparing it too.

Top of the Line Gaming PC vs Console: PC Wins
$300 Display Model PC you buy at Target vs Console: Console Wins
Mac vs Console: Did you seriously try and play it on Mac? It says PC right on the box. CONSOLE WINS!
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:48 pm

Looks like I'm going to have to answer this question for the billionth time, it's okay though :D

Being a hardcoe gamer I own a 360, PS3 and a PC. In the last couple of years I have rarely played any games at all on the console because of how superior the PC version of everything is and how superior PC's are in general.

PC versions of games are the best every single time for a multitude of reasons AS LONG AS you have a PC that is equal to or better than a 360/PS3 hardware wise (Not very hard at all, $400-500 PCs do this these days because the consoles are so old and you can get a PC for $800-1000 that will be able to completely max all graphics settings and run with far better Frames per second than the consoles will, on any multi platform games. (Consoles are locked at 30 Frames per second and usually have the graphics set to the equivalent of low-medium of the PC versions)

There is literally not a single disadvantage that the PC has besides requiring you to spend a few extra hundred for the extra perks.

Do you want to be comfortable when you are gaming and use a 360 or PS3 controller and sit on your couch, hook your gaming platform up to your High definiton Television?

A PC can do that and it can do it better. Just pointing that out first because people seem to use this as the main defence for as why consoles are superior to PCs. PCs are also capable of running games in much, much higher resolutions than the consoles are. You also have the extreme advantage of having Anti Aliasing and Ansiotropic Filtering of which the consoles have almost none of, on top of being able to maximize the graphics of games on High or Very High where as consoles are stuck on low-medium.

You also have the HUGE advantage of having mods on the PC version which are what make Bethesda games really shine like nothing else in the gaming world. If you haven't bought one of their previous titles on the PC you probably wouldn't know about the wonder of mods but if you do some research you will find that the modding community for Bethesda's games are second to none, the things people come up with never cease to amaze me, they all add so much more immersion, push the visual barrier even farther, optimise the game to make it run more efficiently and add a limitless amount of extra play hours.

So as I said, the only small disadvantage that PC's have are being $100-200 more expensive to get the same performance that consoles have but you have to remember with the PC you are purchasing you can do all sorts of other things consoles can not dream of doing. Then again, you will save that extra money back in a year or so depending on how many games you purchase because they are cheaper on the PC.


Here is a video of a game that is multi platform and compares the 360 graphics to the PC - The difference is absolutely enormous, it's almost the equivalent of comparing a PS2 to a PS3 (almost :) ) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGPrSKG0iUA

PC every single time, there is not a single reason to choose console if you can afford a PC, they can do every single thing that consoles can better than consoles can along with many more things.

I hope I have helped you.


Also if you are buying a PC I strongly advise you against buying a "branded" PC and instead opt to get a technical oriented friend to build you a custom one and order the parts separately.. it sounds intimidating and complicated but believe me, it's much simpler than you would think. If you do this you will save yourself hundreds of dollars and get a far superior computer than you would if you bought a branded PC.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:24 am

Mac vs Console: Did you seriously try and play it on Mac? It says PC right on the box. CONSOLE WINS!

I'm planning on playing Skyrim on my Mac, (via Windows of course).
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:52 am

PC will have higher quality textures and anti-aliasing. So graphically speaking, it will look better. In terms of anything else, the experience will be the same.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:12 am

I've played Oblivion on the Xbox 360 and PC. I liked PC better.

Played Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360 for a really long time, bought the PC version later and it was way better.


Gameplay wise theres really no difference, I prefer the PC because I get better control and sharper visuals. Graphics on the PC are undoubtedly better, higher resolution display, and the ingame settings can be changed to be much higher than the console counterpart. There's also mods on the PC, so if there's something about the game you don't like, you can change it.

I doubt there'll be any difference between the two in terms of gameplay. It's mostly usability differences. Long story short, if you're going to play the game for a really long time, you may be better off getting the PC version because you can mod the game. If you are going to play through it once or twice tops, and want to lend it to friends, etc, then console version is better.

The other thing you want to take into account is that on the console, you will be at the mercy of gamebreaking bugs whereas on the PC you can usually work around them.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:21 am

Oblivion, FO3, and NV load times were just far too high for xbox360 versions compared to PC, and in my opinion that does impact gameplay.

Hopefully its more optimized for Skyrim.
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:19 pm

I'm planning on playing Skyrim on my Mac, (via Windows of course).

Lol then you are playing it on Windows. I am building a PC for Emulators in an Xbox case (and might be using the RAM and HDD I pulled from my parents iMac G5) but that doesn't mean I will be playing FFVII or MGS on Xbox.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:44 am

Oblivion, FO3, and NV load times were just far too high for xbox360 versions compared to PC, and in my opinion that does impact gameplay.

Hopefully its more optimized for Skyrim.


I forget to add this.

I have Oblivion on my 360 and my PC, on the 360 my save file takes 60+ seconds to load where as on my PC is almost instant. It can take up to 20-30 seconds to load a area on my 360 where as on my PC, once again, it's instant.

Load times are infinitely better on computer.


Another thing I forgot to add is that the community will come out with bug fixing patches long after Bethesda decides to drop support for the game, a unofficial community patch for Oblivion fixed over 1,000 bugs that were left over after Bethesda stopped supporting them. These bugs are still on the PS3 and 360 versions but are fixed on the PC thanks to the community.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:55 am

Consoles is plug and play. Peace of mind is underrated these days, and controllers can just be more fun than a keyboard and mouse.

Im still getting it for PC myself.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:52 am

What's better than what applies to playstyles, time, and preference there is no definent better.


The only true reply in this thread so far. It all depends on what you want and are expecting to get out of the game.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:12 am

Consoles is plug and play. Peace of mind is underrated these days, and controllers can just be more fun than a keyboard and mouse.

Im still getting it for PC myself.


You must of missed my post. While consoles a little more "plug and play" because they don't have to install anything (Though you would be mad not to install games on the 360 because of how horrible the games coming out these days run without them being installed) you can still plug your HDTV and controllers into your PC just as easily as you can a console and play just the same as you do on the consoles, with far better quality in every single respect.
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:34 pm

You must of missed my post. While consoles a little more "plug and play" because they don't have to install anything (Though you would be mad not to install games on the 360 because of how horrible the games coming out these days run without them being installed) you can still plug your HDTV and controllers into your PC just as easily as you can a console and play just the same as you do on the consoles, with far better quality in every single respect.


You missed my point. My 360 does not require software/driver/hardware updates and upkeep just because I may have an incompatible soundcard, or something. "peace pf mind" meaning I dont need to worry about the always potential headache when installing new PC software.

And for controllers Oblivion did not have controller support just joystick emulation(like Xpadder). Not a big deal though since Fallout 3 had 360 controller support so I expect Skyrim to also have it, but there arnt very many other games Ive played that do that. Using the stick as a mouse isnt controller support.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:58 am

You missed my point. My 360 does not require software/driver/hardware updates and upkeep just because I may have an incompatible soundcard, or something. "peace pf mind" meaning I dont need to worry about the always potential headache when installing new PC software.


windows7 does all that automatically for the most part, but with 90% less RROD
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:02 am

You missed my point. My 360 does not require software/driver/hardware updates and upkeep just because I may have an incompatible soundcard, or something.


http://www.xbox-360-repair.info/images/red_ring_death.JPG

Checkmate. Play again?

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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:44 pm

At the vanilla level, PC will have better graphics. Otherwise, the games will not be any different.

Casual gamers will be happier with the game on console because of the simplicity that it provides.

Anyone who has a serious interest in the game will prefer PC as they be more likely to appreciate better visual quality and of course, will benefit greatly from the availability of mods.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:44 am

You missed my point. My 360 does not require software/driver/hardware updates and upkeep just because I may have an incompatible soundcard, or something. "peace pf mind" meaning I dont need to worry about the always potential headache when installing new PC software.

And for controllers Oblivion did not have controller support just joystick emulation(like Xpadder). Not a big deal though since Fallout 3 had 360 controller support so I expect Skyrim to also have it, but there arnt very many other games Ive played that do that. Using the stick as a mouse isnt controller support.


Eh, updates are extremely easy not to mention they aren't "needed".. most games these days can be run on drivers that are 2 years old just fine, it's just the new ones increase performance and add/tweak all sorts of things.. not to mention there are hundreds of automatic driver update programs out there which will auto check and download new drivers for you the second they come out with no effort at all on your part.. it's very, very easy.

And actually yeah, Oblivion did have controller support as does every single thing on the PC, you can even browse the internet or your desktop with a controller. It just requires you to use a third party program to make it work, which once again is very easy and can be done in 10 minutes..


At the vanilla level, PC will have better graphics. Otherwise, the games will not be any different.

Casual gamers will be happier with the game on console because of the simplicity that it provides.

Anyone who has a serious interest in the game will prefer PC as they be more likely to appreciate better visual quality and of course, will benefit greatly from the availability of mods.


Are you forgetting about frame rates? Having the consoles locked at 30 Frames per second and having the PC with vastly superior frame rates make a huuuggeeee difference in how the game looks and plays, absolutely huge. Though you could of meant that when you said better graphics I suppose.
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Post » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:00 am

Todd Howard - plays it on the 360! :hubbahubba:
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:10 pm

Basically everything Switch is saying.

PC > Console
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:15 pm

Eh, updates are extremely easy not to mention they aren't "needed".. most games these days can be run on drivers that are 2 years old just fine, it's just the new ones increase performance and add/tweak all sorts of things.. not to mention there are hundreds of automatic driver update programs out there which will auto check and download new drivers for you the second they come out with no effort at all on your part.. it's very, very easy.

And actually yeah, Oblivion did have controller support as does every single thing on the PC, you can even browse the internet or your desktop with a controller. It just requires you to use a third party program to make it work, which once again is very easy and can be done in 10 minutes..


So you have a setup for a 360 controller on the PC for Oblivion that allows walk/run depending on stick sensitivity, and menu scrolling(no mouse pointer)? If you do I would like to know since I find these kinds of games more enjoyable with console controls. Not just mapping your keyboard to your controller though, its not the same thing.

But thats offtopic. Youre still missing the point I was making and thats that software will not always work on every single PC setup possible. And thats without getting into antivirus or UAC or other software conflicts. Sure most gamers should know their way around all of that stuff, but none of its required on a console.
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:52 pm

Todd Howard - plays it on the 360! :hubbahubba:


Yeah but Todd is very much a "casual" gamer.

He has aaaloooottttt of money.. he has much more fun things to do than play games.


So you have a setup for a 360 controller on the PC for Oblivion that allows walk/run depending on stick sensitivity, and menu scrolling(no mouse pointer)? If you do I would like to know since I find these kinds of games more enjoyable with console controls. Not just mapping your keyboard to your controller though, its not the same thing.

But thats offtopic. Youre still missing the point I was making and thats that software will not always work on every single PC setup possible. And thats without getting into antivirus or UAC or other software conflicts. Sure most gamers should know their way around all of that stuff, but none of its required on a console.


From memory yes, it did those things, at least stick sensitivity, I'm not 100% on menu scrolling.. but I don't see why it wouldn't have, it worked perfectly.

And no, software won't work on every single PC setup possible and that's why they give you "minimum requirements".. You aren't going to be able to play Skyrim on a laptop with no graphics card, but your nitpicking. The vast majority of computers can meet any softwares requirements as long as they choose the right versions and such.

And anti virus? I've never had a single anti virus conflict with any one of my games in my entire PC gaming history, that is the truth. I have used Norton, AVG, Avast, McAfee.. Yes I have heard of people having rare problems but they don't stop the people from playing games or anything, it just requires them to allow a certain thing on the permissions list which will take even a novice computer user a few minutes at most once they know what's wrong (Which is usually very obvious because the anti virus will tell you why it is conflicting with something and not allowing you to use it/causing problems)

I really don't understand these "software conflicts" you are talking about... I can't even remember having one in a decade of using a PC, maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by them.

Regardless, PCs are only slightly harder to use than consoles as long as you have a tiny amount of experience with computers which most of the population does these days because they are so integrated into our lives.
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Post » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:40 pm

Also not to forget that Skyrim is devoloped first and foremost with the 360 in mind ...

So when you come to play it on your PC > dont be surprised if it ask's you to press B to open up the menu :flamethrower:
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