Console Versions: Do you want a Hi-Res Texture Pack?

Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:58 am

The PC version of Skyrim has recently received a hi-res texture pack and the consoles are left in the cold on this. Other games like Battlefield 3 (It is a different game completely but my point is still there) have allowed users to install a texture pack that was included with the game to increase quality and on CONSOLES.

The only way to release one would be to add it to each console's online store and allow people to download for free.
Some people might be unable to download this if they don't have a large enough hard drive, obviously, but it would make the game look so much better. (Not saying it doesn't look great now, just some parts seem to look extremely lo-res)

Currently there is a known bug that downgrades the texture quality of Skyrim if you install on the 360 (I don't think it does this on the PS3) and normally that is supposed to improve the quality.


So would you want something like that for Skyrim?
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Tracy Byworth
 
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:15 pm

So what do any of you think?
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Dean Ashcroft
 
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:32 pm

I'm on PC and already have ultra hi-res textures, draw distances, shadows, AA, ect. :P
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:41 am

Honestly your point about BF3 is not still there. That is first, a far better engine. It's reguarded as the best in the world. Second, Skyrim is an entirely different game, it's far more detailed and therefor has to load alot more at once than Bf3. And honestly I dont think the consoles could handle a high texture pack with this style of game, on this engine.

What do you think Bethesda went 'Hey guys, we can do 1024x1024 textures! Nah, screw them, give them 512 for giggles and grins just to make the game look worse for no reason! Muahahah!"

No. They probably gave consoles the best textures that they could handle.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:02 pm

Uhm, the 360 wouldn't be capable of keeping a stable framerate with higher resolution textures for Skyrim. Battlefield 3 was a whole different kettle of fish.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:35 am

Honestly your point about BF3 is not still there. That is first, a far better engine. It's reguarded as the best in the world. Second, Skyrim is an entirely different game, it's far more detailed and therefor has to load alot more at once than Bf3. And honestly I dont think the consoles could handle a high texture pack with this style of game, on this engine.


My point is that it can be done where you can install a game and it increases the quality of textures, which is what Rage and many other newer games have done.

Then there are other games where they made a texture pack and put it on an extra disc and it looks much better once that is installed.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:19 pm

Microsoft. Free. :rofl:
There's a reason Valve hasn't released any extra stuff for Xbox users. And it's not because they don't want to.

Sony may let PS3 users get it for free, if Bethesda foots the bill though.

I'm not voting in the poll. I'm on PC, but I wouldn't mind if PS3 users got thrown a bone.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:11 am

Graphics look fine to me. I'm used to Runescape graphics, if that tells you anything.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:51 pm

No, they can't. Not for Skyrim.

The Xbox 360 has only 512Mb of RAM that must be shared between the system and the GPU. Most mid-high range PCs nowadays have double that amount dedicated to the GPU. And if that runs out, they have at least eight times that much dedicated system RAM to fall back on.

You would crash the system trying to put high-res textures onto the 360. It just doesn't have enough memory to cope with them.

I really wish that were not the case, but that's how things are. Skyrim is pushing the 360 as far as it can possibly go as-is.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:58 am

My point is that it can be done where you can install a game and it increases the quality of textures, which is what Rage and many other newer games have done.

Then there are other games where they made a texture pack and put it on an extra disc and it looks much better once that is installed.

But again, Rage, and most, if not all other games, aren't nearly as high detail or packed with objects are Skyrim. The game simply couldn't handle higher quality textures on consoles. That's why they wouldn't do it.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:45 pm

Microsoft. Free. :rofl:
There's a reason Valve hasn't released any extra stuff for Xbox users. And it's not because they don't want to.

Sony may let PS3 users get it for free, if Bethesda foots the bill though.

I'm not voting in the poll. I'm on PC, but I wouldn't mind if PS3 users got thrown a bone.


There have been some things that are free on 360s. Valve only pays the most attention to PS3 and PC because of Steam.
Before, Valve used to praise Microsoft and 360 but when MS turned down Steam (which is disappointing) then that is when Valve started hating.

There was a free dlc for Portal 2 released not long ago.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:44 pm

There have been some things that are free on 360s. Valve only pays the most attention to PS3 and PC because of Steam.
Before, Valve used to praise Microsoft and 360 but when MS turned down Steam (which is disappointing) then that is when Valve started hating.

There was a free dlc for Portal 2 released not long ago.


Huh... Didn't know that. I heard that Valve wanted to release free DLC on the xbox (as they do for all their PC games), but Microsoft said no. Then Valve offered to let players download the DLC from Steam, then Microsoft said no. Then Sony got buddy buddy with Valve. Though from what I hear, Microsoft usually does hate free stuff. Which is why some other games are making xbox users pay, while PC players get the same stuff for free.

I don't even have Portal 2 on the PC, so I haven't been paying close attention to it. That's probably how I missed that bit of news. I just googled it, and you're right about MS letting Portal 2 get some free DLC. Truly a shocking turn of events.

Yep: MS still isn't a fan of free stuff. http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/27/witcher-2-dlc-free-on-pc-not-on-xbox-for-obvious-reasons/
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:07 am

You can't really think that at some point they said "You know what would really make this game great? Let's drop the texture resolution by like... half."
The resolution is exactly where it needs to be to run properly on consoles. Upping it would cause it to no longer run effectively.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:14 pm

The fastest way for you to get high res textures in your games is to mount a campaign against MS demanding that they update the console. That box is old and its showing. Seriously though: take it to MS.


edit: p.s you'd be doing the rest of the gaming world a favour too.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:31 pm

Voted: Didn't

It's not a matter of what anybody wants, but a matter of what is possible with the current generation consoles. Beth giving you what you want would give you something you don't want, a RROD.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:18 pm

I own both the PC and PS3 versions and I dont think the PS3 version looks all that bad. :huh:
But thats just my openion...
Then again I started gaming in the mid 80's on a Commodore 64 so yeah its more about gameplay for me.. Gamers these days are too spoilt.. with HD GFX
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:17 am

The PC version of Skyrim has recently received a hi-res texture pack and the consoles are left in the cold on this. Other games like Battlefield 3 (It is a different game completely but my point is still there) have allowed users to install a texture pack that was included with the game to increase quality and on CONSOLES.

The only way to release one would be to add it to each console's online store and allow people to download for free.
Some people might be unable to download this if they don't have a large enough hard drive, obviously, but it would make the game look so much better. (Not saying it doesn't look great now, just some parts seem to look extremely lo-res)

Currently there is a known bug that downgrades the texture quality of Skyrim if you install on the 360 (I don't think it does this on the PS3) and normally that is supposed to improve the quality.


So would you want something like that for Skyrim?


Did I miss something or misread your post; where did Beth release a high-res texture pack for the PC version of Skyrim. Link please? I don't see it on Steam either.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:14 am

You can't really think that at some point they said "You know what would really make this game great? Let's drop the texture resolution by like... half."
The resolution is exactly where it needs to be to run properly on consoles. Upping it would cause it to no longer run effectively.


No, I do know that.

It also matters by the speed that it can read the hard drives, that is why they recommend to install it (other than having the disc drive not run). Rage and BF3's graphics improve by installing.

Right now with the bug that lowers the texture quality in Skyrim if you install it is there on 360s. It is possible that when it is gone that the game will look nicer when it is installed, no one knows on a timeframe.

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Did I miss something or misread your post; where did Beth release a high-res texture pack for the PC version of Skyrim. Link please? I don't see it on Steam either.

Sorry, I should have clarified. I just meant there is one, not that Beth released it.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:14 am

Graphics look fine to me. I'm used to Runescape graphics, if that tells you anything.

Horribly off-topic, but if you still play RuneScape, add me. The name's Froggers.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:41 pm

The PC version of Skyrim has recently received a hi-res texture pack

:o

Sorry, I should have clarified. I just meant there is one, not that Beth released it.

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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:28 pm

I just think that there are some textures that have to be placeholder textures or something.. Has nothing to do with performance.. It's like they just forgot to redo them.
Run over to Windholm... Go to the graveyard and look at that pixilated mess. On any system the gravestones look like they are left over from daggerfall or something. It hurts my eyes to look at them when compared to the tree or walls.. The ground and some of the wall bits are also pretty blurry but not as bad as those tombstones. There are also the sidetables (or whatever they are called.) They have nice woody frames and ugly blurry bodies. Surely this had to have been noticed. The offset in textures is just bizarre in places. This has nothing to do with performance, they just need to be a bit more on scale with everything else.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:24 pm

Ps3 yes. Xbox360 no. It couldn't handle it. I picked yes.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:16 pm

The PC version of Skyrim has recently received a hi-res texture pack and the consoles are left in the cold on this. Other games like Battlefield 3 (It is a different game completely but my point is still there) have allowed users to install a texture pack that was included with the game to increase quality and on CONSOLES.

The only way to release one would be to add it to each console's online store and allow people to download for free.
Some people might be unable to download this if they don't have a large enough hard drive, obviously, but it would make the game look so much better. (Not saying it doesn't look great now, just some parts seem to look extremely lo-res)

Currently there is a known bug that downgrades the texture quality of Skyrim if you install on the 360 (I don't think it does this on the PS3) and normally that is supposed to improve the quality.


So would you want something like that for Skyrim?


I am so so so beyond sick of people using and misinterpreting the BF3 texture install. The install is for THE STANDARD TEXTURES for the game as they were not able to fit everything on one disc. When you only use the regular game disc it uses scaled down textures that were able to fit onto the disc.

The install DOES NOT GIVE YOU SOME CRAZY HD TEXTURES. They are simply the textures that the game was designed with and wouldn't fit onto the game disc.

Also, as others have stated. The 360 can't handle anything more, performance would probably take a huge hit. It would be useless, the game would run so slow that you'd probably just uninstall it anyways.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:47 am

I would love a Hi-Res texture pack. Seeing as I bought it for my 360, fearful of my poor 4890 and 4GB of ram being unable to handle the low splendor (and wanting to experience the full grandeur on PC i shall wait till an upgrade) I would love the texture pack!
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:06 pm

Eh...? Isn't this pretty obvious? The consoles can't handle any higher res textures. Bethesda caps the texture res where the consoles stops performing well.

If anything, Bethesda should release a higher res texture pack for the PC, which actually can handle it. In any case, it's Bethesda's standard to have crappy textures and let modders fix them and as far as Skyrim goes I'm sure this standard will stand.
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