Yes well that's the point. For some people this isn't an issue, for others they attack constantly and on the other side of town without the person knowing. It's affecting people's game's differently.

Wrong thread haha

Oh look, another one of these topics.

The attacks are worse in Riften, the vampires attack in the market.
Would be nice if there were more guards posted in areas where the vampire attack.
Also the guard presence in Skyrim is undermanned, remember Oblivion when you go into a guard barracks and there are about 20 guards in there.
Also the Guards in Oblvion were a lot more powerful then the guards in Skyrim and towns in Oblivion never came under attack like they do in Skyrim.

If you have nothing to slow or end the attack, your fighting skills are not good enough to defend and your pickpocketing skills are not good enough to better equip your NPC's all that is left is probably to avoid the towns till you level up a bit more or get better skills and want to try it again. You should be able to sell and buy stuff with which ever faction you joined, and you can raid as many enemy locations as you like with no fear of losing NPC's. So even if you finished Dawnguard first and then tried to go back to other quests, at least your character should be better able to handle the attacks.


I would have to say I made the mistake of going to the Riften stables first the other day, when I was trying to get into Riften without drawing much attention. This resulted in a Dragon attacking Riften, since dragons just love following Braggen around. If it had been a usual fire breathing or cold breathing dragon, just about every NPC in Riften would have been dead. It was one of those weird Revered Dragons that throws spells so only three NPC's were lost. I gave up and tried it again, fast travelling straight to Riften where Braggen avoided any dragon encounters and just had the usual random encounters.

One Vampire attack in Riften went wrong for the Vampires because Karliah was randomly taking a night stroll through the market and killed the vampires.

Are you dumb? I AM A [censored]ING LEVEL 27! YES, my fighting are not good enough. I am a 27. NOTHING I HAVE IS GOOD. And you want me to defend my city against constant attacks? Avoid the [censored] towns? How the f*** am I going to get anywhere in the story without going to any towns? Huh? Answer me [censored]ing that. I have used every possible strategy in my power to no avail, because I am a level twenty [censored]ing seven. Your skull is so [censored] thick you'd have to take a chainsaw to cut it.

I'll speak with my experience of vampire attacks, they aren't so bad. But that's cause Rashir is at lvl 40 and kills them almost instantly so the town never actually gets attacked because Rashir kills them so fast.

It's so weird people talking about "Braggen" and "Rashir"-- if I was talking about myself to random people, I would say "Saso got attacked by a dragon," I'd say "The Dragonborn" or "I" because he's kind of supposed to be you..... it's just a weird way of talking.

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Rashir isn't me. I have another character who I use I with.

I have three characters at different levels Rork (Orc, level 20), Aussie (Nord, level 60) and Braggen (Imperial, level 77), so need to seperate which one I am talking about. Obviously none of mine lack for strategy, my level 20 Orc weakling Rork has managed to survive 10 levels of Dawnguard without losing any NPC's to vampire attacks, he has had no vampire attacks, but neither am I taking any risks with him. He is lousy at everything, dies when the wind changes and has some how been cursed by the warrior stone. Aussie will be testing out the dangerious strategies since she is capable of defending against anything. Rork gets to fight vampires last, he has yet to meet any and I want to fix the stone problem before he does. If I cannot fix what ever the problems is I will just go start a fourth character to test out the lower level possibilities.

I haven't had too much trouble with the character I played through Dawnguard with, had very few attacks and virtually none since I finished. But my 67lv character is not going to do the Dawnguard DLC and has had more attacks the last wiped out the stables at Windhelm because I could not get there in time.

I got the feeling it is a come along nudge to get you to do the DLC so I can see why they did it. But wiping out the townsfolk is a problem especially if they are traders, a better idea would have been if they spawned townsfolk cannon fodder that the Vampires aimed their attacks on, a bit like the DB quest generating NPC's ready for assasination.

On another point the Character I played the DLC on was a vampire and some of the extra quests at the end call for killing of eminent citizens, and alot of the time it's merchants that are the only ones you can find that fit the bill. Again could have done the DB option and plant a suiteable target.

-Derik started DG at lvl 30, battlemage, heavy armor, 1h, Distruction, conjuration, alteration with a couple perk's in archery ( some in smithing, enchanting and restoration.) I didn't rush through, never fast traveled, only used the carriage or feet. He only had vampire attacks out in the wild. The only NPC's that have died are VoS generic npc's and the dude gathering ingredients. He still has a couple of the side quests to complete in the DLC but their are other things that he has yet to finish in the game, so I'm really hoping that the attack's don't start.

After a drunken enening at the Bannered Mare youll stagger home to Breezehome at 12 only to see the telltale signs of battle down near the main gate and a pile of dead storekeepers upon thrall ashes.

Having to "outsmart" and use exploits to work around a game feature is a good indication of poor game design in the first place.

excuse me but NPC's are dying in areas that i have not been to [getting the letters]
and when they kill ppl you need to finish a quest
whats to outsmart? you have no control over it to begin with
plain bad game design

This.

Exactly. Thanks for adding Skyrim to my seemingly growing list of games that I can't play for one reason or another:
Skrim- constant vampire attacks;
Crysis 2- too many [censored]s and clans;
Mass Effect 3- Black Hole glitch;
Halo 3- obviously still fun but a tad repetitive after five years;
Forza 4- in season play tells me I have no eligible cars but won't tell me which cars are eligible, so I essentially can't play single player;
Mass Effect 2- beat ten times with at least one playthrough on every class but soldier;
Battlefield 3- too much BS and kills that don't make sense;
Bad Company 2- again, a little repetitive although still fun

Just to further along the thread, I just saw something quite interesting. I fast traveled to Chillfurrow farm hoping for a dragon attack and I got one, Frost Dragon. What was interesting was the behaviour of Wilmur. After fighting the dragon a bit, he decided he'd had enough and actually RAN INTO HIS HOUSE. I've never seen that before.

Now I don't think this would work with the vamp attacks for two reasons: 1) these master vampires are one or two shotting a bunch of the NPCs and 2) even if they did run into their homes, I suspect the vampires would just follow them inside. I have seen the guards follow the thieves into the scorched hammer, and I have seen NPCs chase me even after exiting a cell through a door. So I don't know that this would work for the vampires, but it sure did work for a dragon attack.

That would actually be kind of cool if you ran into a house during a dragon fight and the dragon just rips the roof off with it's claws

First people complain "its too safe, nothing interesting happens" now people say "its too dangerous"...make up your minds.

Ok, yeah dangerous for me, sure. Bring on the vampires and let me fight them alongside the expendable faceless guards, not citizens that throw themselves at them with only a dagger and get killed and turned into dust. There goes the town.

This.

For hells sake please program all important NPCs to run the hell away D:<
Even if you have console commands on PC you can't just resurrect Vendor and Quest related NPCs because it messes up the game.

People dont dislike the attacks because there dangerous they dislike them because of how empty Skyrim fast becomes as a result of them.

More like as a result of playing the game under the influence. Since you need to be to actually let your npc's get killed by squishy vampires.