Construction Set CTD and rendering errors

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:48 pm

So, I posted an issue I was having with the CS yesterday. Here is that post
...
On a different note. I was working on my mod today. And something happened which never has before. I accidentally renamed a vanilla cell, then I closed out the CS and cleaned the .esp with the enchanted editor. I didn't notice anything wrong with my .esp for a while after that when working on it in the CS. But after looking around in different cells. I noticed something very peculiar. Many cells were blank completely, but had retained all of their references. And some cells still had the land data, but many of the references weren't being rendered (though they were still there, I could even double click on them and it would center the camera around where they should have been).

It looked like this
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42876609/AZ/WTF.JPG

Now, I have a backup file... from.. well a while ago. I had been being really good about keeping lots of backups until recently when I made a whole new copy of the .esp to make some drastic changes like changing the Temple. Soooo... I will lose a bit to be sure if this thing is corrupted. I will also say that I did close out of the CS and reopen it several times and also rebooted. But it's the same issue every time :(

Anyone else encounter this or have any ideas?
Then, after some discussion...
Ok, this is really weird. Not sure if I should call this positive or bad news. I went and checked an old version of my .esp and it has the same issue. There is no way this file was corrupted by EE or whatever is going on because I have worked on copies of my mod since this version. So it seems that there is an issue with my CS or something. I tried just loading up Morrowind and the expansions and it was able to render 0,0's landscape and everything just fine.

What. the. heck.

I guess Your suggestion for trying this on another setup is probably a better suggestion than I thought at first. I may be reinstalling the construction set. Is it possible to just install the CS? Without overwriting my Morrowind install? Gosh, this is annoying :tongue:
So, now I am at the point where I reinstalled the CS from my disc. Now it's a whole different issue. Now if I try loading up MW, TR, and BM the CS crashes and I get this in the warnings.txt
Spoiler
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "#
".
Unknown SSCR_ID in ConstructObject.
Unknown SSCR_ID in ConstructObject.
Unknown SSCR_ID in ConstructObject.
DataHandler: unrecognized form
Look in the Warnings.txt file for more info.
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "#
".
Unknown SSCR_ID in ConstructObject.
Unknown SSCR_ID in ConstructObject.
Unknown SSCR_ID in ConstructObject.
DataHandler: unrecognized form
Look in the Warnings.txt file for more info.
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "
".
Region 'Felsaad Coast Region' Weather Chances do not total 100 percent.
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "
".
Region 'Moesring Mountains Region' Weather Chances do not total 100 percent.
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "
".
Region 'Isinfier Plains Region' Weather Chances do not total 100 percent.
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "(".
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "#".
Chunk size 10 too big in chunk WEAT_ID in form REGN_ID.
Max size is 8, data truncated to "#".
Unknown SSCR_ID in ConstructObject.
DataHandler: unrecognized form
Look in the Warnings.txt file for more info.
Following string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 2963712435680719868-"What do you mean you're looking for me? I don't know you, do I? You say you have a note from Ernil?"
Previous string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 15115114812138631024-"Wha?"
Following string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 26077673137419609-"Almalexia, our Lady of Mercy, dwells in her Temple. Her steward, Fedris Hler, and the Lord Archcanon, Gavas Drin, also reside in the Temple. King Hlaalu Helseth and his mother, Queen Barenziah, live in the Royal Palace. Tienius Delitian is Captain of the Royal Guard. It's a big city. If there's someone else you want, ask around."
Previous string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 646119943318678334-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 646119943318678334-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Previous string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 273938299215761706-"I mind my own business. Why don't you mind yours, outlander?"
Following string is different for topic "Boots of the Apostle" info 14011281241423210826-"The place-name reference in the Oracle's prophecy is obvious. An ancient Dunmer stronghold called Berandas lies south of the village of Gnisis in the West Gash region. I would also not be surprised to find that the reference to "wings of twilight" designates the guardians of the treasure you seek. Winged twilights are Daedric servants of the Daedra Lord Azura, one of the Anticipations worshiped in the Tribunal Temple."
Following string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 6845170651501226134-"We are still at war with the Dark Brotherhood. Do not forget that."
Previous string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 3101257063208914982-"Wha?"
Following string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 1153953981787613029-"Scum, all of them. If they're after you, friend, you'd better find yourself some help. Or write a will. Or both."
Previous string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 7790121922046710132-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 7790121922046710132-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Previous string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 98651948238611929-"So Tsrazami was an agent of the Dark Brotherhood. Alas, she left Vvardenfell or is dead. Perhaps we can find another contact."
Following string is different for topic "travel together" info 1627714415913516768-"Habasi hears you broke our agreement. Habasi does not want to speak with you now."
Previous string is different for topic "travel together" info 18372162080003293-"Oh...if you insist. I mean, if you're completely sure...."
Following string is different for topic "travel together" info 2091021750732311715-"Do you want me to stay with you? I'd be willing to wait here. I m-mean, it's up to you."
Previous string is different for topic "travel together" info 10200169763196329114-"Really? Excellent! I mean...I wouldn't want to get in the way. You understand. I'll guard your back from here."
Following string is different for topic "travel together" info 10200169763196329114-"Really? Excellent! I mean...I wouldn't want to get in the way. You understand. I'll guard your back from here."
Previous string is different for topic "travel together" info 3230111137262605603-"It was quite a journey, wasn't it?"
Following string is different for topic "specific place" info 749914731240121175-"Pelagiad is the next town up the road. Cross the bridge out of town and just stay on the road. From Pelagiad, take the road north to Balmora and Caldera, or east to Ebonheart and Vivec. If you have the cash, and are in a hurry, or afraid of getting lost, take the silt strider to Balmora or Vivec. Speak to Darvame Hleran at the silt strider landing, across the bridge and south along the shore. And if you plan to travel widely, get a copy of 'Guide to Vvardenfell' from Arrille. It's got maps."
Previous string is different for topic "specific place" info 5284160913085923413-"You're in the Temple Courtyard now. South is the Royal Palace. To the southwest is Godsreach, to the southeast is the Great Bazaar. The Plaza Brindisi Dorom is south of the Royal Palace, either through the Palace or from Godsreach or the Great Bazaar."
Following string is different for topic "specific place" info 11745292531195823123-"You're in Godsreach now. South is Plaza Brindisi Dorom. North is the Temple Courtyard and Almalexia's Temple. To the east are the Royal Palace and the Great Bazaar, but you can't get there from here -- go through the Temple or Plaza first."
Previous string is different for topic "specific place" info 1699211592376221704-"You're in the Plaza Brindisi Dorom now. North is the Royal Palace. To the northwest is Godsreach, to the northeast is the Great Bazaar. The Temple Courtyard is north of the Royal Palace, either through the Palace or from Godsreach or the Great Bazaar."
Following string is different for topic "specific place" info 1699211592376221704-"You're in the Plaza Brindisi Dorom now. North is the Royal Palace. To the northwest is Godsreach, to the northeast is the Great Bazaar. The Temple Courtyard is north of the Royal Palace, either through the Palace or from Godsreach or the Great Bazaar."
Previous string is different for topic "specific place" info 6643274893123421616-"I'm not here to give you directions, outlander. Go ask your friends."
Following string is different for topic "Apelles Matius" info 2054126209125913879-"Who?"
Previous string is different for topic "Apelles Matius" info 105892696311744307-"I am he. What can I do for you?"
Following string is different for topic "little advice" info 2094220342252388225-"No one will ever grow rich hunting. But it is a pure pleasure for itself. Take your time. Sneak up on your prey. Surprise it with a swift, silent arrow. There is no greater pleasure than to drop a cliff racer with a single arrow."
Previous string is different for topic "little advice" info 1393122572769712662-"Wha?"
Following string is different for topic "little advice" info 4800225642531726815-"If you're looking for some action, try poking around in the sewers, Be careful. Others with similar ideas also spend their spare time down there. But you look like you can take care of yourself."
Previous string is different for topic "little advice" info 5178505957589111-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "little advice" info 5178505957589111-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Previous string is different for topic "little advice" info 157403399120459055-"Go around trouble. Leave it behind you. Then return, later, when you can give trouble a big surprise."
Following string is different for topic "little secret" info 1656921162306334539-"Smuggling raw glass is a crime. All raw glass belongs to the Emperor, so it's the crime of treason, and punished by death. But... there's so much money to be made selling black market raw glass that it's a rare merchant who'll refuse to buy a piece from you. Of course, if the mine guards catch you stealing raw glass, they just kill you. Which is why we don't steal raw glass."
Previous string is different for topic "little secret" info 1596014266109399564-"Wha?"
Following string is different for topic "little secret" info 251731914716407914-"I've heard that a fellow named Dovor Oren has deep pockets. He is looking for weapons and armor -- special items -- and he pays well. I can't tell you where to find him. Just keep your eyes out for him and his associates."
Previous string is different for topic "little secret" info 25693272922242731603-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "little secret" info 25693272922242731603-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Previous string is different for topic "little secret" info 3059715983399729955-"Smuggling raw glass is a crime. All raw glass belongs to the Emperor, so it's the crime of treason, and punished by death. But... there's so much money to be made selling black market raw glass that it's a rare merchant who'll refuse to buy a piece from you. Of course, if the mine guards catch you stealing raw glass, they just kill you. Which is why we don't steal raw glass."
Following string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 16325102782849326701-"The skies are clear all over Morrowind? Even on Red Mountain? I cannot believe it."
Previous string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 2632427741322528929-"Wha?"
Following string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 735826820143959524-"The wild rats have been a real problem in Mournhold lately."
Previous string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 128279104427445-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 128279104427445-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Previous string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 2606929671165928504-"So. You are Nerevarine. When will you go to Red Mountain to face the Devil Dagoth Ur?"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 0" info 12105171323147159-"You've committed a crime, vampire. Were you not an abomination, I might let you live. Prepare to die!"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 190592792723126084-"What are you doing here? Those bastards kicked me out of the Legion...and for what? Idiots, all of them. I'm surprised the fools even knew it was gone. But it's mine now. And that's how it will stay. And you will tell no one!"
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 26180161471138016613-"You have questions about my plans for you?"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 2541048941629420333-"I can't believe these ashstorms! I've heard of them on the island, but not here in Mournhold! Why does this keep happening?"
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 1009424795316348028-"Have you any news about the Crimson Plague, %PCName?"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 2736297202775214789-"No...tell my liege...I have...failed h...."
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 19137490125553988-"Ah, %PCName. Friend of the Temple, and healer of Mournhold. What can I do for you?"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 19137490125553988-"Ah, %PCName. Friend of the Temple, and healer of Mournhold. What can I do for you?"
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 2720923242218723111-"Look, I don't know what's going on in this place. Monsters bursting up from the ground, guards running around everywhere...this is lunacy. You'll notice I'm not blaming this on any witch. And it's still too hot around here."
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 21024265233160711929-"Yes, %PCName? I thought you were sent to learn more about the attacks. I also told you to stay away from the Royal Palace until you had learned all there is to know! Do not take this job lightly."
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 2056622339295626215-"Well, look who it is. Have I got a bone to pick with you, %PCName."
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 5" info 21101133601380211667-"Report on the land deed."
Following string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 31868303082881712450-"Nerevarine? Is that a new play? I like plays."
Previous string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 2408513183138574886-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 18643190142627330170-"I know a little about the prophecies. I know about you and the Temple. Some people in the West set great store in signs and portents, but for thousands of years we Dunmer have had the luxury of being able to speak directly to our gods. We have no need of prophets, and distrust anyone who claims to speak for the gods."
Previous string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 19742144401495913234-"Wha?"
Following string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 19742144401495913234-"Wha?"
Previous string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 2121218601181417485-"You were right, %PCName. I am not much of a hero, but I can only try to do my duty to the tribe. And now that the Devil is dead, and the Blight is gone, perhaps there will be time enough and peace enough for me to learn what I must learn to be a leader... like my father."
Following string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 2340447542946020638-"Almalexia is Healing Mother, the source of compassion and sympathy, and protector of the poor and weak."
Previous string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 27775206891496915092-"The Most Blessed Lady Almalexia guides and protects us all. We bask in her glory and are glad."
Following string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 1629530673227419863-"Almalexia is one of the gods worshipped by the Dunmer in the Tribunal Temple."
Previous string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 253227646864125858-"The goddess over in the Temple. She's surrounded by her Hands. Tough fighters from what I hear."
Following string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 253227646864125858-"The goddess over in the Temple. She's surrounded by her Hands. Tough fighters from what I hear."
Previous string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 1766720843232323511-"Almalexia is Healing Mother, the source of compassion and sympathy, and protector of the poor and weak."
Following string is different for topic "Services" info 9706194263037723833-"I sell potions and spells, charms and marvels. And I can teach some of what I know, if you can pay."
Previous string is different for topic "Services" info 2853524411223339493-"Wha?"
Following string is different for topic "Services" info 25770154614365306-"You'll find the smith Bols Indalen at Craftmen's Hall in Godsreach, along with several other fine craftsmen. There's a healer and an Imperial altar in the Royal Palace. Go to the Temple for Temple services. Otherwise, most trainers, crafters, and merchants are in the Great Bazaar."
Previous string is different for topic "Services" info 30825219281734727358-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "Services" info 30825219281734727358-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Previous string is different for topic "Services" info 1814954861644214188-"We have our own Blades Trainers, of course. And there're many public services available in Balmora. Members get better prices from Guild Services. The Balmora Fighters Guild and Balmora Mages Guild are across the river. You'll find contacts for the Balmora Thieves Guild in the South Wall up the street. And there's an Imperial Cult shrine at nearby Moonmoth Legion Fort."
Following string is different for topic "Attack" info 487276111250324150-"Arrgh!"
Previous string is different for topic "Attack" info 321254531168523746-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Attack" info 321254531168523746-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Attack" info 13500177932814824645-"Rarrh!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 1097260391359021977-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2195928081229820053-"Beware the Black Dart gang, adventurer."
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 32671263572417426268-"If you insist..."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 291042261518712192-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 291042261518712192-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 29416250231050910157-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Idle" info 21526916987413233-"Sniff."
Previous string is different for topic "Idle" info 254347879605031401-"You're imagining things."
Following string is different for topic "Idle" info 548912703529910651-"He should be here by now..."
Previous string is different for topic "Idle" info 16462055017136588-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Idle" info 27124114862698827403-"[Whistles]"
Following string is different for topic "Beds" info 1594025613149529658-"Very well. Go down the stairs, and use the first room on your right. It's yours for the next day."
Previous string is different for topic "Beds" info 2467420241504626206-"Very well, the bed is yours for the day. You'll find the room on the bottom floor, at the North end of the bar."
Following string is different for topic "Beds" info 2467420241504626206-"Very well, the bed is yours for the day. You'll find the room on the bottom floor, at the North end of the bar."
Previous string is different for topic "Beds" info 21432111501574114700-"It's all yours for the day. Down the stairs to the right."
Following string is different for topic "Hit" info 299702217312473358-"Unngh!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hit" info 1352870573219920531-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Hit" info 1352870573219920531-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Hit" info 15912223092960525234-"Raragh!"
All the dialogue stuff looks pretty standard from adding the expansions but that other stuff at the beginning. I have never seen that before. So this crashes the CS. I cannot load the CS with Bloodmoon enabled I have found (it works with just MW and TR, but not MW and BM or all three). It crashes every time.

So, I have no idea if the old problem has even persisted because I cannot load up my mod!

Please please please help :sadvaultboy:
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Chase McAbee
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:01 am

The Weather related warning to due to installing Tribunal after Bloodmoon. The correct install order is Morrowind, Tribunal and then Bloodmoon. I don't know about the other warnings though.

Simply reinstall Bloodmoon to fix the weather errors, maybe that will help your other issues.
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Chris Cross Cabaret Man
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:07 pm

Thank you for the reply. I'll try reinstalling Bloodmoon and see if that fixes the issue. Just strange that it was working before!
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Ashley Tamen
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:29 pm

i'd do more than just install BM. i'd reinstall the whole game. CS and bloodmoon being [censored]es? there's probably more surprises in this game setup...
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Mrs Pooh
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:55 pm

Probably. I'll try both. I got all my data files backed up.
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Phillip Hamilton
 
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