http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8n1c3hsLZo

Been posted before and I just have to add - anything IGN does isn't cool.

I've seen rewind theatres for a lot of games and they get a LOT wrong. I swear they know nothing about the games they're previewing and do little to no research, that video is no exception.

"You can't spell ignorant without IGN"

I have to agree, they often guess about things that have already been confirmed and such things. A big fan of a game have no reason to watch IGN's rewind-videos, since they just go through the same things that you already know.

I hadn't seen that before...the forums are moving so fast. It was great and I'm more excited than ever. I can't wait to take the 7,000 steps. Thank you for posting it.

Edit: Oops. I meant say 7,000 steps...post now edited.

7000. THEY ARE 7000!!!!!

They did say 'we don't know' an awful lot.

You guys have to realise the average person who visits IGN isn't as into TES as us it's more directed at the kind of person who is just looking for a brief overview on the game and the trailer. So go easy on 'em.

"This isn't the only giant city that we're going to be seeing."
"Yeah, there's actually 5, which is a lot more than we saw in Oblivion."

What? They don't know how big the cities are... and what they saw of Markarth wasn't a particularly huge area. There are 9 cities in Oblivion.

Still, otherwise, it doesn't seem that bad. More for the non-hardcoefans who don't want to put in the forum time though.

Topic = video. Topic =/= IGN.
:stare:

This was in GI and in PS3 UK mag dude.And they meant 5 Imperial City sized major cities.

Wow. Those guys don't know anything about TES....
It's maddening.

It reminds of some article I read about the new wallpaper just before the trailer came out.
Some dude called the dragon tail that is encircling the Dragonborn a tentacle. And I thought, if you knew anything about this game before you decide to report on it (which seems to be your job as a "game journalist") you'd know it was a dragon tail-- kind of the whole point of Skyrim.

Ugh. Press. :facepalm:


EDIT:
Although, it was nice that they pointed out the Nirnroots. I didn't notice that.
But, then they skipped over the Dwemer ruins completely.... :confused:

A magazine saying it's big doesn't tell you how big a city is. They will do anything to sell a product. And if the cell sizes on the map in the behind the scenes video are the same as Oblivions (which would make sense as they would make it, as has been said, "roughly the same size as Oblivion") then the cities are roughly the size of the average Oblivion city. And there were 9 of them. However big they assumed the cities to be, they meant cities the size of the city they were looking at, so if that city is not as big as the Imperial city, they were not talking about Imperial city sized cities.

I have the UK PS3 mag and in it there is a map of skyrim taking up a full page and also an interview with Todd Howard and he confirmed that.
Also IGN are going by the info they have and that is part of it.

It thought there should be 7000 steps, or am I mistaken?

Does the map show the size of the cities and scale of the map? What did Todd Howard confirm? How is that going against what I said? How does IGN know the objective size of the term "massive"?

By massive when talking about the five cities they mean in terms of Oblivion as in each is the size of the Imperial city and also the map in the PS3 UK mag has annotations for any notable locations

You are assuming "massive" means "as big as the Imperial City" with absolutely zero reasoning. If each city had 20 buildings, they'd still say they were massive, because massive is subjective and calling it that will increase hype.

No in terms of scale all we have to go by is that they are all as big as the Imperial City and I think if I am not mistaken one major city is twice as big.
And in terms of subjectiveness i think the 'size' of the imperial city is the amount of ground it takes up not how many buildings , residents etc.

Stopped watching at 1:35, "We′re assuming this dragon here is this major god guy who′s wiped out humans in the past in this region and also they are pointing to him being "reborn" along with..."

/sigh



No that is exactly why people need to be hard on them, when they are spouting things like as if they are really into whatever subject they are spouting about, and new people listen to them and get the wrong impression of the series because of it, then that′s bad.

If they make TES sound like any other cliché fantasy story with no depth and they have fans who don′t know the series who listen to them, then guess how they will assume the series is.

:facepalm: Okay. I'll say it again. THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS EACH CITY IS AS BIG AS THE IMPERIAL CITY. If you wish to contradict me, please provide a source. I will also once again explain my reasoning for saying they are smaller more concisely.

1. Todd has said Skyrim is "Roughly the size of Oblivion".
2. So far, Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout have used the same sized cells, so the tradition will probably continue.
3. The map of Skyrim from the behind the scenes video has a grid, which is probably the cells.
4. Assuming they are cells, as is probable, they number roughly 4400 on that map.
5. If the cells are the same size, they have roughly the same numer as Oblivion (4600) which makes it "Roughly the size of Oblivion".
6. I have compared the cell maps of Oblivion and Skyrim on an equal scale (I stretched the map so the cells were equal in size when compared).
7. In this comparison, I discovered that the outlines of the cities in both maps took on average, roughly the same amount of space.
8. They are probably roughly the same size.

Hope that was clear enough.

Edit: seeing your edit, I will restate that. They would still call it "massive" if it took up less space than Bruma, because they want to raise the hype.

My thoughts excactly!

I stopped watching when they said that you could call out a dragon to help you and say "Hey, what's up dude?".

For obvious reasons.

Oops, can I edit your post where you quoted me?

Don't yell at me!!!!

The thing that I noticed most is they assume the building at the end of the trailer is high hrothgar, but why would a dragon hang around the grey beards? also, the mountain behind that 'ruin' is much higher and more likely to be the throat of the world.

I noticed that also. Of course it's not the 700 steps. You can see a much bigger mountain (which given the evidence fits safely within the geographical area of Hrothgar) right behind it in other shots.