[RELz WIPz] Coral Reefs of Morrowind : III - Morrowind

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:15 am

- for example, that starfish are found in extreme environments such as the Artic and/or landscapes indicative of a natural catastrophe -

What? XD I'm not sure I understand what was that supposed to mean, but from what I think it does- we have a LOT of starfishes along our coast in Croatia and our sea is really clean and calm, so I don't really get what you'r sayin...

Speaking off, your PM box is full Vurt, but in case you didn't make any starfishes yet I retextured some Cait's ones with newer textures.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj238/Chakich/ScreenHunter_22Feb181650.jpg

If you're interested lemme know. :smile:

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:05 pm

What? XD I'm not sure I understand what was that supposed to mean, but from what I think it does- we have a LOT of starfishes along our coast in Croatia and our sea is really clean and calm, so I don't really get what you'r sayin...

What he meant was that while starfish are generally know to live in calm waters, they can also survive (thrive, even?) in harsher climates like Arctic waters.

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:16 am

What he meant was that while starfish are generally know to live in calm waters, they can also survive (thrive, even?) in harsher climates like Arctic waters.

Aah my bad, I'm slow.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:51 am

Azura! This puts Bethesda's underwater exterior design to shame! Incredible work, Vurt.
While it looks amazing, I'm not so sure that that much coral reef and flora should be in such a shallow area of water. But I'm not an expert on oceans and sea floors and all that stuff.
Will you be doing this for the entire area surrounding Vvardenfell? Or just in rivers and big lakes and what not? Will the sea floor be radically different in certain areas of Morrowind?

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:18 am

Actually, most of the colorful waterlife is in the top 30-50 feet of our oceans. The required sunlight doesn't penetrate much farther than that. The shallow inland sea which surrounds Vvardenfell would be teeming with life, even in the deeper areas if the water is warmed from underneath by geologic processes.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:00 am

Actually, most of the colorful waterlife is in the top 30-50 feet of our oceans. The required sunlight doesn't penetrate much farther than that. The shallow inland sea which surrounds Vvardenfell would be teeming with life, even in the deeper areas if the water is warmed from underneath by geologic processes.

The shallow areas? Even if boats and ships were to pass through them year after year, the plants wouldn't be damaged?

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:38 am

Sorry for the lack of updates, havent worked on this since i made the video, but hopefully i'll get some inspiration soon so that i can finish this.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:27 pm

Sorry for the lack of updates, havent worked on this since i made the video, but hopefully i'll get some inspiration soon so that i can finish this.

Is there any chance that you can share the underwater shader used in your videos? I like it very much.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:26 am

The shallow areas? Even if boats and ships were to pass through them year after year, the plants wouldn't be damaged?

Coral can grow quite happily in just a couple of feet of water, and does so extensively in the carribean, boats tend to stay away from coral because of the possibility of ship wreck as coral,apart from being sharp and tough, often attaches itself to rocks.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:25 am

Is there any chance that you can share the underwater shader used in your videos? I like it very much.

It's not a shader, it's just a tweak, it's posted on the previous page.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:11 pm

Will it work on normal MGE? XE doesn't work for me :/

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:22 pm

It's not a shader, it's just a tweak, it's posted on the previous page.

Thank you very much!

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:53 pm

Will it work on normal MGE? XE doesn't work for me :/

The tweak? I have no idea, take a backup and try.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:55 pm

The shallow areas? Even if boats and ships were to pass through them year after year, the plants wouldn't be damaged?

Slarti's right. As a matter of fact, many of the world's coral reefs are exposed to the air at low tide. While it's true if a boat hit a reef it would damage the reef, it would also damage the boat. The animals would then colonize the boat if it was left undisturbed, at least until it decomposed completely. Most "barrier islands" are coral reefs which have been exposed by the lowering of water levels and the rising of continental plates.

Anyway, Vurt, do you mind if we continue to discuss the nature of reefs while you are working, or would you rather we give your thread back to the anticipation of your next wonderful addition to Morrowind?

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:17 am

Slarti's right. As a matter of fact, many of the world's coral reefs are exposed to the air at low tide. While it's true if a boat hit a reef it would damage the reef, it would also damage the boat. The animals would then colonize the boat if it was left undisturbed, at least until it decomposed completely. Most "barrier islands" are coral reefs which have been exposed by the lowering of water levels and the rising of continental plates.

Anyway, Vurt, do you mind if we continue to discuss the nature of reefs while you are working, or would you rather we give your thread back to the anticipation of your next wonderful addition to Morrowind?

So smart <3

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:58 am

The tweak? I have no idea, take a backup and try.

No XD The reefs.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:08 am

Elaura: no i dont mind at all.
sister: ah ok, yes the reefs will work with any MGE, i dont see why it wouldnt work.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:07 am

vurt. a little offtopic question..

are you the one who modded System Shock 2 flora too ?

» Fri May 04, 2012 3:46 am

yes, links to my work are in my signature, including the SS2 one

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:28 am

version 0.1 released: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8378

It works just like grass, it needs to be ticked in MGE when generating distant land, but shouldnt be ticked in the Morrowind launcher.

Eventually i might do some hand placed coral reefs instead, right now this mod is quite demanding, it will affect your FPS even on land, but like always you can specify the amount to render in MGE (the grass setting).

I currently don't have any good MGE.ini and Morrowind.ini recommendations for the underwater colors and fog, please share here if you come up with some setting that looks good

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:40 am

version 0.1 released: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8378

It works just like grass, it needs to be ticked in MGE when generating distant land, but shouldnt be ticked in the Morrowind launcher.

Eventually i might do some hand placed coral reefs instead, right now this mod is quite demanding, it will affect your FPS even on land, but like always you can specify the amount to render in MGE (the grass setting).

I currently don't have any good MGE.ini and Morrowind.ini recommendations for the underwater colors and fog, please share here if you come up with some setting that looks good :smile:

Ssssssweet! Thanks man! :foodndrink:

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:29 am

Will you be providing a non-MGE alternative?

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:53 am

Aw, thank you vurt.
Where is this swarm of tiny fish from, here on the left:http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/fms/Image.php?id=106982
Is it abot's waterlife? I never noticed these.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:51 pm

jh2011: if i later make a version with hand placed reefs it wont require MGE.

kirlian: the fish swarm is a simple particle effect attached to one of the meshes, but it doesnt work currently since it's rendered with MGE's grass shader.

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:23 am

jh2011: if i later make a version with hand placed reefs it wont require MGE.

Drats

Well, I can always hope :smile: