Corrupt Saves - Purchase Killer

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:04 pm

It's only happened to me twice but it's not unheard of (though it is a rare bug). I suggest alternating through 2-4 files. You don't know it's corrupt until you try to load it.

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Charles Mckinna
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:56 pm

There's also the fact that Bethesda isn't even the company that developed Fallout NV as well. People like to blame Gamebryo for that as well but other Gamebryo games didn't have nearly the issues Fallout NV did as far as I know (and Skyrim doesn't use Gamebryo anyway).

Bethesda owns the intellectual property that encompasses the Fallout franchise and chose to outsource the development of FO-NV. They were responsible for QA and dropped the ball. In my opinion, they are equally responsible for the mess that was New Vegas, and the sad part is, the were rewarded for the "ship it, then fix it" action with a large number of sales. From a company point of view the FO-NV release was a huge success, but a look on the forums show that there are still a large number of people that are having problems. I think I will wait to see how stable the game is before I purchase - I am tired of spending 60 bucks to be a beta tester.

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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:18 pm

Do what I do have at least 20 saves per character and never ever rely on auto or quicksave.
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Justin
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:35 pm

Can't say I've ever had this problem . . . but I have about 30 save files per character anyway. :P
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:29 pm

Bethesda owns the intellectual property that encompasses the Fallout franchise and chose to outsource the development of FO-NV. They were responsible for QA and dropped the ball. In my opinion, they are equally responsible for the mess that was New Vegas, and the sad part is, the were rewarded for the "ship it, then fix it" action with a large number of sales. From a company point of view the FO-NV release was a huge success, but a look on the forums show that there are still a large number of people that are having problems. I think I will wait to see how stable the game is before I purchase - I am tired of spending 60 bucks to be a beta tester.

JimC

Fair enough. I do believe Skyrim will be well taken care of though.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:44 pm

I've had one corrupt save in OB, but I did not really mind in the long run because I still had the copy that crashed during the umbra quest.

but I think most corrupt saves are more of a hardware issue than software, its memory on your system that gets corrupted (it could be potentially due to horrible bugs in a game but if that were the case corrupt saves would have happened way more often than they did) more often or not something physically can happen to your systems hardrive or a file gets moved or skrewed up and thats the kind of things that cause corrupt save.
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Jason Rice
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:45 pm

this is an issue?
THIS is the reason your waiting to buy it?
do you not realize that oblivion is 5 years old?
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Richard Dixon
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:15 pm

A corrupt save occurs when you shut off the game while it's saving
Your computer must've crashed while you were saving (perhaps autosaving), thus corrupting your data.
Maybe it'd help if you didn't save in the same spot every time. I have two spots designated to each character, usually, just for such an occasion.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:58 am

A corrupt save occurs when you shut off the game while it's saving

That is not the only time it happens.

Quick and Autosave are known to get corrupted if used excessively. Don't know exactly why, but it has to do with the fact that they're not just being overwritte


If the auto save created a new file and discarded the old one or at least wiped the old one before writing a new in the same spot then this wouldn't be an issue but when rewriting to the same physical location over and over eventually the data is going to get mucked up.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:57 pm

Never use qucksaves and always turn off autosave.

Always save at least every 5 minutes PLUS every time anything interesting happens or is about to happen.

Also save at least 3 times before you quit and save within a minute of starting a session.


I keep my save folder down to about 400 saves deleting old saves in blocks of 2-400.

Id say by now I have saved about 6000 times in fallout new vegas and I saved about 15-20k times in ob and about 75k times in daggerfall total.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:16 pm

That is not the only time it happens.



If the auto save created a new file and discarded the old one or at least wiped the old one before writing a new in the same spot then this wouldn't be an issue but when rewriting to the same physical location over and over eventually the data is going to get mucked up.

Saving to the same physical area has zilch to do with the save corruption. It's an interesting hypothesis, but it's not what happens in reality. Any save corruption issue is likely due to game bugs and not due to physical wear. HDDs are designed for constant use.
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Laura Ellaby
 
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:19 am

In all my years of playing Oblivion, I have never had a corrupt save. Sounds like it's more your problem than Bethesda's.


This, with the exception of saves that were aborted when the game crashed with the file open. Of course, since I'm obsessive about saves, I have plenty of fallbacks to use including Streamsave saves.

Never EVER play the game with a single save slot. The one time you do hit a crash and it does corrupt, you'll just be setting yourself up for massive disappointment.

In no way is Windows going to allow a process without open file handles to simply kill your entire save folder like that. Microsoft would have been shafted years ago for it.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:50 pm

The most common issue is the game crashing during an autosave killing it.

This can also happen with a quicksave but is slightly less likely.

Yes corruption can happen even with a normal save but generaly as long as you keep a chain of saves you can find out where it started by trying to load em all back to the last one that works.. and thus figure out what started it.

Always exit out and reload the game every few hours if your unsure how stable its saves are. And always save about every 5 minutes no matter how stable it actualy seems.

Oh and always devote the first 100 hours of rpg gaming .. if its first da gaming.. to just having fun and messing around... there are bound to be bugs oopsies and alll and your likely to want to delete the entire lot anyway just because...
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:32 pm

They have had 6 years, and made a new game engine. I don't think we will have any of the gamebryo-svcking-as-an-engine problems we had with Oblivion through New Vegas. I think we're good.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:30 pm

Ya we will have all new bugs!
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:47 pm

Never ever save on the same slot. There is always a chance for corruption. Even though the chances are very slim.
The only time I've ever witnessed a corrupted save was my friend saving several hundred (maybe thousands of) times on the xbox for Morrowind. Evidently there is a limited number of new saves on the console. Ironic, isn't it?
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