Cosmology

Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:15 pm

Hey everybody. I was just browsing deviantart and I found this.

http://www.deviantart.com/art/The-Elder-Scrolls-Cosmology-432011248

Is this erm... right? I guess that's it really, I found it pretty cool to look at at least.

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Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:21 pm

TES cosmology is weird, because it doesn't function as real planets and whatnot do. That image seems like its trying to bring the abstract nature of the TES universe into a means we can visually understand.

I don't know too much about TES cosmology to know its accuracy. Never did find it appealing enough to actually care about.

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Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:25 pm

While I appreciate that piece of art, I find it simplistic in its descrption. That doesn't detract from its usefuli, however.
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Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:36 pm

I'm not a fan of the discworld Shivering Isles also think of Mundus as a wheel, outside of the wheel is Aetherius, the rim is Oblivion, the spokes are the Aedric plane(t)s with Nirn being the center.
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Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:59 pm

It's not bad, but Sovngarde almost certainly isn't in Aetherius. It doesn't really make sense for Shor's realm to be there in the first place-- Shor/Lorkhan is a Padomaic entity so his realm is unlikely to be in the Anuic Everything. Sovngarde is either an Oblivion plane, or like the Aedric plane(t)s, it's Shor's dead body. That would be the moons.

Secondly, the place where Anu and Padomay mingle is Nirn. Nirn is the Grey Maybe between IS and IS NOT. Aetherius is pure possibility, and therefore Padomay has no place in it.

It's extremely pretty, but not very factually accurate. Part of that is because you can't really represent the Aurbis in any kind of meaningful way; it's not designed to make sense. None of the lore descriptions are more than metaphors. It gets credit for showing the Aedric plane(t)s surrounding Nirn, though, rather than in Aetherius.

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Post » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:12 am


In this version, Nirn should really be a sword. Yes, it's not accurate geographically, but cosmologically spot on. Particularly when the Adamantine Tower comes into the mix.

Is there an actual explanation for the Shivering Isles/Sovangarde/the Soul Cairn as distinct entities? I thought that the Isles at least were part of Sheograth's daedric realm. I don't know enough about the Ideal Masters to call on what the Soul Cairn is ,and Sovngard is something different altogether.

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Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:41 pm

Soul cairn is a Oblivion Realm, both Dawnguard and Battlespire state as much, I believe the shivering isles being like Tamriel it's the capital/center of the Madhouse but it's not the only landmass in the Madhouse, Sovngarde is iffy as we don't actually know where it's location is and we can only make theories with aetherius being one theory while Masser/Secunda being another.
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Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:41 pm

Love that Monomyth:


The creation of the Mundus made Aetherius and Oblivion exist, and they are both still a mix of the two primal forces in the world. Pure possibility hasn't existed since Anuiel was created, when Padomay first interacted with Anu.

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Post » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:22 pm

Oops, my bad! I wasn't thinking. Thank you for the catch!

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