People like you are what make me embarrassed to be apart of this community, just because of one game you're going to judge as bad before even playing it you are ready to say "NOPE this is ruined forever, never going to be apart of it again." Seriously, people if you have a problem with TES online then don't play it or give it attention also how is it exactly going to kill the franchise? Nearly everyone who has said that has not given a good reason as to why the series would be ruined by it.

Not only is this thread identical to the one you mention but the other thread was started just yesterday: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1379945-could-elder-scrolls-online-be-end-of-elder-scrolls-series/

My argument would be, from an artistic point of view, that it may nullify the depth that defines the TES series.

How so? Give reasons and examples.

i dotn think it will matter, but i dont think ill play it either. just because ive been burned out on the MMORPG clones.

I highly doubt that ESO will kill the Elder Scrolls franchise regardless of whether it succeeds or fails. ESO is being developed by ZeniMax Online, not Bethesda. That it's set so far in Tamriel's past indicates that they plan to advance the storyline with single player titles, relegating the MMO to distant history that can go on in sandbox without being affected by single player releases. When MMO's have killed franchises, such as Warcraft or Knights of the Old Republic, the MMO was developed by the same studio as the old games and intended as the forward continuation of the plot; neither of those things is the case with ESO.

ESO is the beginning of the end? Hasn't that been said for every ES game since Daggerfall? Little late to the party, aren't you?

they do cut more and more each game. i think by elder scrolls 7 the skills will be weapons, magick, stealth. stanima bar will go away. you will have to speak into the mic to use dialog and will glitch like crazy or never work at all rendering conversations null and void. factions will be the dark brother hood, but it will let you go mage, fighter, stealthy killer or all three. the main quest will take 20 minutes of game play and consist of over 43 hours of super realistic cutscenes. and the game will only use two buttons

I doubt it, Bethesda isn't stupid and won't be doing what most rpgs are these days, trust me speaking into a mic won't be a thing just because they decided to have a lil fun and use kinect as for Dark Brotherhood they haven't actually always been 100% stealthy, they've had members that went in full force before.

idk they may make the mic required lol people saw it. means theyll want it in the next one. sad truth of games. new hard to use tech needs to be in good old standbyes that worked need to go away... so sad

A series artistic integrity is relative to it's games, and it's games to its genre. To subvert or to replace the genre, is to subvert the purview of the series. So taking this into context, if you are to take a successful series of games that are defined as single-player RPGs, and throw in a game that removes what defines their integrity, the single-player aspects, and replace it with multiplayer aspects that are not only untested in this particular series, but have been shown in other cases to render null and void the rest of the franchise, is to possibly corrupt the very artistry that has defined the series.

I doubt this will do anything to change your mind, so perhaps this is a waste of my efforts, but it may answer how it might nullify the depth that defines the TES series, keeping in mind this is from an artistic point of view, viewing the series as a body of works, rather than a series of games.

Oh right. because there haven't been a thousand threads like this. Oh, and like someone hasn't said "RIP TES" every time anyone has ever put out anything for it.

And if you think it'll be marketed much at all, you're already wrong. It's a pretty awful marketing campaign. Either way, you're exhibiting the sort of whiny knee-jerk over-reaction that gives gamers a bad name. Thanks a lot.

Its one game, its not going to change the gameplay and style for every game.

It will change my perception of the series as a whole. If a series of books comes out that is successful for a particular plotline, and then a publisher, to milk it's fame, releases a book that's plot refutes what is stated in the original series, then one's perception of the series as a whole might waver.

I honestly don't think that TES:O will do anything to end the Elder Scrolls series, as it is far too popular for it to fail commercially and will not limit the progress of the original series, but it's addition simply mires my initial understanding of the TES series, so my complaints are purely vain in their ideas, but no less important than any others.

where have i heard to big to fail before?

Oh for the love of...

I hear this cry pretty much everywhere "REMEMBER WARCRAFT, WOW RUINED IT", it goes on and on and on...

MMOs nowadays are only looked at as some kind of leeching parasites that destroy every good thing in life just by existing. MMORPGs themsleves are looked at as a redheaded stepchild of RPG games by the "hardcoe fans", for the only reason I can think of is that it requires you to be social and WE CANNOT HAVE THAT!

But nevermind that, there are different reasons here, people jump on the pure statistical numbers without looking at the reasons behind them. So Warcraft franchise moved away from RTS and turned mainly into an MMO, yet people forget the part where Frozen Throne was basically a big buildup to WoW. Ultima Online indirectly ruined the franchise but that is mainly because EA at the time decided that the MMO was more important than the main series, putting all the people from the original series into UO.
What we have with TESO is completely different. It is made by different people, people from BGS does not work on this title and the other parts of the series did not lead to this event.

And fearing for being spoiled or losing consitency or whatnot, there's really nothing to lose. Frankly, I would've preferred if they would've went with an alternate universe, but going into a age long lost when basically the entire landscape is different gives the game quite a lot of free ground, while keeping the same amount the originals already had.

So no, it won't kill it, that's just silly.

eh WOW. good game but it may well have killed warcraft until another RTS comes out.
i think the social interaction on an elder scrolls game would be intersting, i just dont think id like the mmo setting and taking away the freedom of the series that single player offers.

i doubt it, with the success of skyrim and the lore of the elder scrolls theres a lot that can be done. the only thing i'm worried about is whether the mmo will actually be good or will it give elder scrolls a bad name?

why do people ask this question? thats like saying lucasarts will stop making starwars games because of the old republic online

From what I have seen in Spoony's review of Ultima 9, Ultima 9 was what cut off the legs of that series, and EA cruelly put it on tragic life support.

I dont think they will stop just because they are making the MMO. The main reason they are making the MMO is because many people have been wanting multiplayer in an Elder Scrolls game. They thought making an MMO would be the best way to answer that question.

I also like alot of you, don't think it will be the end to the Elder scrolls. I think it could lose a lot of the fan base and it could ruin some things in elder scrolls by putting the WOW kids and others that will ruin it for others. This is being made by Zenimax, so Bethesda will still be making the elder scrolls that we all love. If TESO fails and it might not, it will only be seen as a side game to the elder scrolls almost like the game Red Guard (if it fails).

The only thing i personally dislike about TESO, (This is my Opinion) it ruins the fact putting the nords, Dunmer and the argonians in fraction and adding any story to the lore that makes it believable. these races have a bitter hatred for one another, i know in the past they help each other time to time, I know not every Nord isnt a racist barbaric tool and not every Dunmer isnt a slave owning [censored]. But knowing the basic nord personality and culture from the lore. why couldnt they join up with the daggerfall coverant (other man races) when they are in a weaken state rather then just joining a Elven and Beast race? Because they had no other choice? Same with the Orcs, actually i could see the orcs being a ally to the dunmer. both races were cursed and have a daedric gods part in there history and also both races are look down at from other races. The only reason I think Zenimax put these factions together so they can have three races on each corner of the tamriel map to make it easier for MMO players then the actual Lore. I wish they just made a co-op Elder Scrolls then this! but it is what it is.

We could just have a a version of Battlespire that is just the multiplayer.

World of Warcraft utterly wrecked the warcraft setting, but only because it was so successful. So yes - if TESO is that successful, it will shut down any hope of more games, or any hope of more games that you won't desperately wish hadn't been made. But it won't be, most likely.

No.

There are MMOs of almost anything. It really doesn't mean the end to a series at all--in fact, it's not part of the elder scrolls series of solo--it's part of the elder scrolls franchise. They're basically different games, almost. I think of it as another separate "game" that Beth publishes. Even a separate forum to it.
I don't understand this hate with MMORPGs.