Who needs a lady when I have my right hand and a tub of vasaline?

thats how i am i just play the game i don't care if it has flaws that pop out at you if its fun i play it.

like how tes and fallout are the 2 best games series ever mad imo and i love the lore for both. but if i see some thing like harold being the cw i'm not gonna be pissed about it i'm just gonna be oh hey harolds in here even if it dosn't make since or is just stooped for him to be there. i just take into acount how long its been since the last game and make it logical in my head. i mean its been 40 some thing years i think since fo2 who's to say that there wasn't more enclave some where other than novaro and the oil rig and then made there way in mass to the east coast.

that really doesn't seem cannaon breaking to me. and again to me its perfectly logical that fev could have been sent to a vault to test it on people right before the bombs droped. and from what some one else said it sounds like the lions BOS came there before the west coast bos started having problem with the ncr. so again logical that they could have made there way to the CW.


so in all yes there area lot of thing in fallout 3 that just scream wtf at you but to me none of it really breaks cannon.

just my thoughts tho.

See the thing is, it was never a problem that some people might have made their way across to the other coast, the problem was just how many people did; the Brotherhood, the Enclave, Deathclaws, Harold, people selling Jet. Im sure there are more which slipped my mind.

It was just a bit OTT for me, not so much breaking canon, but very much not making sense

Out of all of those, the only one that doesn't make sense to me, is Harold. And not as much that he traveled, but did so and turned into a tree.

I agree, Bob wasn't that big in Fallout 2. Harold then decided to leave Gecko for some unknown reason and walk to DC. 40 years is alot of time but if you look at how big Harold is and all the trees around him in Oasis as well as the cult that has formed around him. Fallout 3 makes it seem like Oasis has been around for decades. So BoB went from a very small tree to completely taking over Harold in less that ten years and in that time he walked across the wasteland thousands of miles while Bob was growing bigger and bigger. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense, I wish Bethesda just left him out of Fallout 3.

Also Bob was just a normal tree seed that landed in Harold and started growing. I know in one of the endings it says Bob's seeds end up growing in even the harshest wasteland but it didn't make sense for him to turn into what he did in Fallout 3. To me it seems like Bethesda thinks Bob and Harold were mutated together when that isn't the case.

Yeah anyway Bob was a bonzi apple tree anyway! no way harold could be walking around with it getting any bigger then it was in FO2.

As much as I agree, We can''t know what the long term effects of possible risidual FEV are on a mutant with any type seed growing out of his head or what the normal growth pattern would look like for such an individual.
There is no other frame of reference to draw conclusions from. and SCIENCE! plays ha heavy hand in the FOU.

Just popping in to show FO3 some love. Vanilla is pretty good, but modded it feels the most fun out of all the FO's to me. If Bethseda would make the stat system matter, up the difficulty, and give us hard choices I think they could appease both new gamers and older fans of the series. It's such an easy fix, but they are so scared of alienating gamers who will freak if they can't have 100% of the content in 1 playthrough.

If you go by the Wiki entry it took something like 80 years for the tree to get to the size it was in FO2. So only like 33 or so year happen in the time between FO2 and F03 So if it took 80 years to grow to bonzi tree size why in only 30 it turned into a full grown oak tree size?

I am inclined to agree with you because it would take a very special set of circumstances for everyting to line up, but.we still dont have any other examples of a plant growing out of a mutants head (and how their physiologies might have interacted) to go by.

Your quote itself spells it out for you. "it was an entirely new species of tree- unique and special, just like Harold"
How do you know if one of the unique properties it has isnt that as it gets older it grows more raplidly?

I thought the "unique and special" quality was in the "can grow anywhere and gives nutritious fruit" to the wasteland....

I know its reaching. I am just trying to say that it also doesnt say anywhere that is exlcusively what makes bob unique.

I think that Bob is unique because it is the only tree to grow out of someone's head.

That is a pretty unique trait in a tree

Bob wasnt in Harold's head in Fallout 1. The seed didnt fall into his head until later, after 1 but before 2, so bob the tree isnt 80 years old in 2241.

Unique circumstance, or unique tree?
"New speicies" is more what i am paying attention to, rather than "unique and special". No scientific studies means that you can't dioscount it growing at a rapid rate later in its lifecycle. Clearly Bob did grow rapidly, because it is evidenced in game

This thread is now about Harold?

It could be about Bethesda svcking, if you put forward a little effort

Ok.

Bethesda svcks.

How was that?

Pretty good, I give you an A for effort

Errr.. yeah, its got a little lost along the way

Im only going for a B. a few exclamation marks would have got an A though