First off I'll say Brink isn't bad....fast game play, nice customization, nice sound, visuals. But the aim mechanics are completely horrid. The same thing that ruined Homefront for me. Before you start off with "Oh dur hur you just can't aim derp derp" No.....I play Battlefield Bad Company 2 consistently. And if I can take out 3 people at a med distance away with all 3 of them shooting at me at the same time and come out the victor....ya screw you I can aim =P I constantly have 2.00-3.00+ k/ds there, high SPM, etc. The aim on there is just so good. Then I get onto Brink and wow....be lucky to hit someone in the foot. And I'm a long time player of FPS games and it's just terribad. Also I failed some missions cause the AI were completely horrid. I know it's probably better to play online and complete them that way but still sometimes you just feel like running solo. Overall it's decent....I definitely wouldn't pay $60 for it....glad I got it from Gamefly....would pay MAYBE $30. Would love to see them tighten up the controls a bit and improve the lame "parkour" crap. It's so glitchy....But just like Homefront to me it was another big let down.

I don't see anything glitchy about SMART. Do explain please.

And, what do you mean by the aim being worse? I play on PC not console so I don't know. Is it aim assist?

So you don't like the game because the weapons are less accurate than they are in BC2? :mellow:

In Brink it's ESSENTIAL to burst. With SMGs you should be bursting when you ADS, for anything other than close quarters, where you can spray. With ARs you REALLY need to burst because they suffer huge spread and recoil... but they can be sprayed at point-blank They're definitely harder to master than the weapons of BC2, I got into that game a couple months before Brink and played it pretty solidly, and believe me I struggled too when I first hopped on here. You get used to having to put the extra bullets in, since all the weapons are weaker than in BC2 also. And don't forget the importance of the Engineer and Medic buffs, they upgrade damage and give you extra health which makes a huge difference to your performance.

It's best if you don't even try to seek kills, and KDR can be forgotten altogether here. Do the objective, and kill when NECESSARY. If you're playing enough for the objective, you'll probably rack up a bunch of kills along the way anyway, maybe even be top for the match. 99% of the time I'm dedicated to my objective or to buffing, and now I often finish top for kills.

Also turn off Auto-Aim. It's HORRIBLE. I turned it off within my first couple minutes of the game.

And I have no troubles with SMART. Sometimes it pulls me into weird places, but then I remember it's because sprint and SMART share the same button and so it usually comes down to being my fault for holding on. You'll get used to it too.

So because you're decent at one game you're supposed to be great at them all? Fail logic is fail. I have been playing BC2 since the day the beta was released, have 3 names with 2-3 KDR 300-400 SPM and have no problem with BRINK's aiming. And the parkour is not lame, it works just fine for me, I love it.. no more hopping 4 times just to get over a tiny ass fence.

Anyways on topic: try hip firing more and lower the sensitivity... I never ADS in BRINK and do just fine. I do agree that ADS is a little quikry, but hip firing is money.

Well you stated your opinion, and now I have stated mine. Thanks for sharing and making an account here just so you can complain.

in brink you need more hits to kill than BC2. in bc2 you can easily kill 3 or 4 people with one clip. i quite like the fact that brink requires more hits to kill

Indeed....Parkour IS slippy.

Sometimes the char climbes one step just to fall down on the other side without me doing anything....this realy gets on my nerves.
On the other hand somtimes he clings to the edge jumping and sometimes he just jumps over, making it realy difficult to predict what the Char does...

Bots!!!
(One of the biggest nerve-killing point in Brink)

Lets take "Be more Objective"-Mission.
First run - team-bots where realy disgusting, but after a few runs I had the clue
how to compansate.
Second Run:
Do you realy expect me to do this solo? (Yeah, I know some others did....whatever) playin against AIM-Bots who kill me with about 3 shots, while my teammate-bots cant even take down one of the enemies? o.O
How am i supposed to do the objectives (often being unable to take a weapon), when i have to kill everyone myself?!? [censored], they dont even give proper covering fire! o.O

I tried doin this mission in 4player Co-Op....well first the other players didn't knew where objectives were, but second time we did nice....BUT DIDN'T GET THE 2 STARS AT ALL!!!
I mean....what is Co-Op there for, if u can't even clear the mission with rewards like that. *smaking his head at Brink-Case on the Desktop*

I'm realy disappointed concerning these points.
Sry if I drifted over to another theme here.

... I never even failed a Be Objective challenge, three star. I have problems with the escort and hold challenges but really, Be Objective is as easy as they come. Just because there's an enemy doesn't mean you always have to shoot him.

Never had probs with these 2 missions, because have no teammates anyway.
Maybe I am too much of a teamplayer, to do this one mission, maybe i am just unlucky....
but my nerves are realy hurting now and like I said, this Co-Op-Thing bugs me even more, haven't seen many games out there with proper bots co-op could just make up for it.

Um, oh dur hur you just can't aim derp derp.

There is nothing glitchy about SMART. It's good, and it serves it's purpose. If you want it to be like BC2...just go play BC2. Seems to me like you're complaining because either, you don't know how to use a feature, or you aren't very proficient at using said feature (yet.)

Also worth mentioning, because nobody else has yet...

Try adjusting aim sensitivity both ways, if you haven't already - even if you're used to it being fast, slowing it down might help, and if you're used to it being slow, speeding it up might also still help - give things a shot, because SMART really does change the way you'll approach EVERYTHING.

At some point, in the challenge missions, the game breif tells you "Do not rely on your team of bots to complete anything for you" Now, when you play the game your team may sometimes do the mission for you or they will make you fail and at most you will have 10% chance of mission success, It's down to the luck of the draw I think.

Bots are the Nemisis of todays games, There useless. always have been, cant blame em'
I dont rely on bots to help me out, but I try to stay close to my team of bots because it's better then running solo. just buff them up as much as possible you get more XP that way.

I'll agree with the topic starter... severall things do this game terrible justice. my advice turn that aim assist crap off straight away, its okay for gunning down one person at a time, for quick lock on's and take down's, but for shooting 3 people standing next to each other it's a godawful nightmare haha. Who needs aim asists anyway :/

the free running is fine, SMART is a pretty cool prototype, learning how to use it takes time, and if your after speed, you can change your body weight for a reason. It takes awhile to learn how to keep moving without stoping or bumping into things.

I agree,the bots for the most part svck,but the secret to Be More Objective on the second run it to not even think of trying it when you are past level 10-12.Create a new character and make those the very first challenges you do.I was trying to get past it on lvl 15 or 16 solo,and it is impossible(if anyone has gotten past it and are up that high,please post a video,or I just won't believe it).

Are you utilizing SMART in auto mode, or manually? You have far more control if you do things manually, but it takes more effort on your part. I'm personally having no issues with it myself.

I'm not even going to get into the discussion on the AI in this game. No matter how intelligent they make it, it'll never compare to having a room full of actual people playing. As for the challenges, you'll find them much easier to accomplish with a fresh character, especially Be More Objective 2. The BOTs level with you, so once you hit level 10 or so, they become pretty hard to deal with.

Saved my nerves! Thx.
Didn't realise they lvled with me....was curious about stickygrens and weapons of bots but nerver even considered them being better, because i am higher.
Made new char and wow....that was one smooth second run!

I will say I have noticed that using the slide seems to be more of s hindrance then a help in a gunfight. For example whenever I get into a shoot out with someone and they go to hide around a corner numerous times I have done the run slide around the corner to finish them off but your accuracy is penalized so much that unloading more than half a clip almost does no dmg to them and then you get killed.

Maybe I am missing something but from my experience the sliding mechanic is more a hindrance in a gun fight unless you are trying to get away in which case it is of great help.

Ya I should have probably remembered to mention that I'm on console lol PC aiming is always much better. And on Console SMART will run you up the wall and then throw you 2 feet to the right sometimes it's annoying =/

I don't think I translated something right lol the accuracy is fine I didn't say anything about the accuracy I don't think, if I did I didn't mean to. I'm talking about the way the crosshair moves when you move the stick...on console that is, forgot to mention that. I've read a lot of other people having SMART go super glitchy on them also. I think its mainly because it's a semi new concept, maybe Brink 2 will be a little tighter on it.

Hmm....this kinda sounds like a really devoted fan post so I'm not going to dignify it with a full response, no cake for you, sorry lol

Exactly... lol maybe the other ppl claiming there is no problem with it will read that. But ya if they would tighten up the crosshair movement, I could even deal with that it wouldn't bother me,I'll probably end up buying Brink WAY down the road when it's like $20.

The aiming is fine and so is SMART, it only "glitches" when you incorrectly make a jump or rely to heavily on just holding down the button rather than doing things manually, usually I would give you some benefit of the doubt but given that every other negative reviewer seemed happy with SMART and the aiming mechanic Im calling [censored].

BFBC and Brink are different games, maybe (hopefully) Brink isn't for you

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So your issue is with the way the crosshairs/sights move? Because this may sound dumb, but... have you tried adjusting the sensitivity to be comfortable? I certainly didn't feel any difference, and I have MAG, Borderlands and BC2's handling wired into my system.

Ok, here is your mistake, it has been stated numerous times by numerous people that if you go 2-on-1, you might survive, but if you go 3-on-1, your pretty much toast. Stop worrying about k/d, it has nothing to do with this game. I play on the 360 and I have no problem aiming, or killing. Sure the spread is fairly large, but thats where burst fire and ADS come in. Try using semi-auto weapons.


True, but it was stated that the AI on your team gets better as the clock goes down, which I have found to be the case. The Devs wanted you to be the star in SP so the bots will let you do everything to gain the most xp. But as the clock winds down, your team gets better. They start doing objectives and actually shooting people.



I have had no problems with SMART. Hold the SMART button and jump, it is a whole hell of a lot smoother than just holding the SMART button.


As for you calling everyone a fan boy and a troll and what nots, thats a quick way to get banned from here, so play nice.

Nope, wrong. Definitely not a super devoted fan. I was disappointed with BRINK too when I 1st got it, I almost traded it in, but it grew on me and I like it a lot now. I still like BC2 much much more, but I do disagree with most of what you said and think you are over exaggerating quite a bit.

So if that opinion makes me a super devoted fan.. then .. whatever... I couldn't care less about what others think anyways :celebration:

YES! This right here! I just rented the game and I said it was ok, but then I tried the Light on the Parkour Challenge. And HOLY CRAP does it feel like im ice skating.

Also the AI is fuggin stupid at times, running backwards when carrying the intel, spreading out all over the map instead of grouping up to defend.

AIMING! God are these people speed addicts are something. Either im shooting 5feet to the left or five feet to the right, and I swear that the turning has two degrees of sensitivity, whiplash or turtle.

Ya I've played around with it a bit, I'm playing with the sensitivity on max now. It's not like I've never encountered this type of movement before, it feels like Medal Of Honor to me, and slightly like CoD. Medal Of Honor aiming is annoying but not bad once you get used to it, but still just don't like the aiming. Nothing short of them revamping the system will change that, I'm just getting used to it the best I can.