could Nerevar be in the game?

Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:32 pm

Right, but since we never found out what happened to him/her, it is entirely possible (though highly unlikely) that (s)he would make an appearance.

Some people are speculating that the dragons are coming from Akavir, though, so if that does end up being the case, maybe the Nerevar will return for some reason.

I wouldn't count on it though. :P


The dragons, called Jills, are AKATOSH's (not Alduin's) lesser Aedra servants. They aren't from Akavir. Sorry.
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Post » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:30 pm

Will it happen? I don't think so. Is it possible? I think so. Think about it, the Nerevarine went off to Akavir right? What do they have in Akavir? Some sort of weird cat dude who transformed himself into a Tiger-Dragon (Tosh-Raka?) and basically wants to invade Tamriel. So is it so far fectched to think that maybe the Nerevarine (who is immortal btw) managed to use his/her smooth talking skills in order to get him/herself enamored with the dragon god and subsequently discover the secret to becoming a dragon god themselves? Keep in mind it's been about 200 years. Not to mention if the Nerevarine did become a dragon it would elimanate the whole, "Well my character was a Argonian, and the other dude's character was a Dunmer..." and why is that? Because ultimately the Nerevarine would have become a freaking dragon lol.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:55 am

I thought Nerevarine being a Dunmer was the reason why the ashlander tribes took you in as one of their own... sure people called you outlander and they took you whatever race... but forcing the player to be dunmer to finish the MQ would be absurd.



since the ashlanders have a whole religion dedicated to the coming of the neverarine it's no wonder they took him/her in.
they've done so in all the other "failed" neverarines who could have been of various different races so they're probably used to the fact that the neverarine could be of any race really.
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Post » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:33 pm

The Nerevarine, nor any incarnation of the Player from any of the main Elder Scrolls games, will not make a follow up appearance in any future Elder Scrolls game unless someone tampers with the air in the Bethesda offices.

The main reason, no one knows what they look like. They could, for the most part, be of any race or gender. They may get a book mention but that's about it. Also, Skyrim happens to be set far enough into the future that most if not all the people from previous games are dead.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:26 am

I thought Nerevarine being a Dunmer was the reason why the ashlander tribes took you in as one of their own... sure people called you outlander and they took you whatever race... but forcing the player to be dunmer to finish the MQ would be absurd.


No, they took you in because they believed in the Nerevarine prophecy and you proved yourself to be the incarnate, not because you fit in. The ashlanders aren't just "generic dunmer tribes" they wouldn't have taken in a dunmer that was native but was part of one of the great houses, they're too stubborn and really dislike the mainstream dunmer.
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Post » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:55 pm

Yeah I mean the hero from Morrowind who we played as. It would not be a lore breaking occurence. It would make sense for him to be overseeing the dunmer who migrated there.. and to oversee the troubles of the civil war there.


200 years after Morrowind it wouldn't make much sense for non-elven races. The Nerevarine was the Ashlander messiah, in their tales they remembered the treachery of the impostor gods of the Tribunal against Nerevar Indoril and Voryn Dagoth. The Nerevarine avenged Nerevar and brought rest to the twisted soul of Dagoth Ur. Still, for most of the population (and even many players) Dagoth Ur remains the Villain of the story, and the Nerevarine hasn't just murdered the Dunmer gods, he also doomed Vvardenfell with his actions. Not exactly the kind of person you want to oversee your evacuation.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:40 pm

The Nerevarine, nor any incarnation of the Player from any of the main Elder Scrolls games, will not make a follow up appearance in any future Elder Scrolls game unless someone tampers with the air in the Bethesda offices.

The main reason, no one knows what they look like. They could, for the most part, be of any race or gender. They may get a book mention but that's about it. Also, Skyrim happens to be set far enough into the future that most if not all the people from previous games are dead.


The Nerevarine should be immortal because of the Corprus disease though.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:59 am

The Nerevarine should be immortal because of the Corprus disease though.


which he/she could be cured of, making him/her mortal again
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:20 am

The dragons, called Jills, are AKATOSH's (not Alduin's) lesser Aedra servants. They aren't from Akavir. Sorry.


While I'm not disagreeing with your statement, I'm sorry, but that's only speculation at this point.

Besides, I thought there was a big hubub over Akatosh being Alduin. "Same face different names" kind of thing.
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Post » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:51 pm

People, the dragons are not from Akavir. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept.

"Then will mighty Akatosh reply, wherein the petitioner must be demand full freedom! To speak in the fires of time is to render the speaker a subject of the matron Jills, those servants of the Dragon that mend minutes without volunteer. Only through freedom can true words remain untouched."
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:15 pm

which he/she could be cured of, making him/her mortal again


Nope, it's specifically stated that you still have Corprus, you just don't have any of the negative symptoms.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:25 am

since the corpus 'cure' gave the pc in morrowind immortality, that person could technically be in skyrim
but wont
beth isnt gonna put a pc from one game in another when theres no way to pick what the nerevarine would look like or what gender or what race etc
itd piss too many people off if they just picked a base character and labeled him/her 'the official nerevarine'
so nope, not showing up
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:07 am

Nope, it's specifically stated that you still have Corprus, you just don't have any of the negative symptoms.


same as a vampire's idea of immortality then, no aging and death of natural causes but still killable by violent means.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:42 am

same as a vampire's idea of immortality then, no aging and death of natural causes but still killable by violent means.


Yes.

There's a difference between immortality and invincibility.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:18 pm

Yes.

There's a difference between immortality and invincibility.


more or less, and then it's just arguing semantics.

to keep on track though.

no neverarine appearance on skyrim other than references of what he/she did in morrowind regarding the main quest.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:26 am

People, the dragons are not from Akavir. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept.

"Then will mighty Akatosh reply, wherein the petitioner must be demand full freedom! To speak in the fires of time is to render the speaker a subject of the matron Jills, those servants of the Dragon that mend minutes without volunteer. Only through freedom can true words remain untouched."


So Akatosh has dragons for servants. That doesn't infer that the dragons that are "invading" Skyrim are of his ranks.

That quote doesn't prove anything other than Akatosh having dragon servants.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:47 am

People, the dragons are not from Akavir. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept.

"Then will mighty Akatosh reply, wherein the petitioner must be demand full freedom! To speak in the fires of time is to render the speaker a subject of the matron Jills, those servants of the Dragon that mend minutes without volunteer. Only through freedom can true words remain untouched."


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mysterious_Akavir

like with real history, you need to look at different sources and read between the lines if you want to be a historian instead of a theologist.

"Ka Po' Tun is the "Tiger-Dragon's Empire". The cat-folk here are ruled by the divine Tosh Raka, the Tiger-Dragon. They are now a very great empire, stronger than Tsaesci (though not at sea). After the Serpent-Folk ate all the Men, they tried to eat all the Dragons. They managed to enslave the Red Dragons, but the black ones had fled to (then) Po Tun. A great war was raged, which left both the cats and the snakes weak, and the Dragons all dead. Since that time the cat-folk have tried to become the Dragons. Tosh Raka is the first to succeed. He is the largest Dragon in the world, orange and black, and he has very many new ideas."


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Varieties_of_Faith...

"Alduin (World Eater): Alduin is the Nordic variation of Akatosh, and only superficially resembles his counterpart in the Nine Divines. For example, Alduin's sobriquet, 'the world eater', comes from myths that depict him as the horrible, rauaging firestorm that destroyed the last world to begin this one. Nords therefore see the god of time as both creator and harbinger of the apocalypse. He is not the chief of the Nordic pantheon (in fact, that pantheon has no chief; see Shor, below) but its wellspring, albeit a grim and frightening one."
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:19 am

I'd prefer seeing Vivec instead of the Nerevarine again.
1. After the events of Morrowind the Nerevarine went to Akavir afaik
2. Everyone here on the forums has a different imagination of the Nerevarine except those who started with Oblivion. So I played him as a dunmer, someone else might have played as a female argonian scum. So we could only see one face and this wouldn't fit what we remember.

What would be cool is seeing Yagrum Bagarn again
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:07 am

more or less, and then it's just arguing semantics.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/immortality

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invincibility

;)

no neverarine appearance on skyrim other than references of what he/she did in morrowind regarding the main quest.


I agree, it's highly improbable that we would actually see him/her in the game. There's always mods though.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:15 am

Vehk who was Vivec would be a better appearance.
The Nerevarine was made immortal by Corpus, however Yagrum Bagran was also made immortal by Corpus and after the destruction of the heart the Corpus apparently started to disappear from him and he slowly regained his memories. So perhaps the same is happening to the Nerevarine and he is slowly becoming mortal. (Sounds familiar doesn't it)
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:14 am

I'd prefer seeing Vivec instead of the Nerevarine again.


Vivec is dead. Even if the Nerevarine spared him he died shortly after the Heart of Lokhan was destroyed, his dead caused the magic that held the meteor Baar Dau (aka Ministry of Truth) in place to fade away. Early in the fourth era, not a decade after the destruction of the Hearth of Lokhan, Baar Dao crashed into Vivec (the city) with all the energy it originally had, and caused the destructon of Vvardenfell.
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Post » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:58 pm

Vivec is dead.

Vvardenfell is gone, but I doubt the living god didn't see that coming. He's still out there somewhere.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:09 am

Vvardenfell is gone, but I doubt the living god didn't see that coming. He's still out there somewhere.
CHIM


He lost his immortality when the Heart was destroyed. He may very well be dead.
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Post » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:19 pm

He lost his immortality when the Heart was destroyed. He may very well be dead.

How to explain it... Vivec obtained CHIM (apparently), he could have slipped into the timeless places at will.
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Post » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:12 pm

So Akatosh has dragons for servants. That doesn't infer that the dragons that are "invading" Skyrim are of his ranks.

That quote doesn't prove anything other than Akatosh having dragon servants.


Several sources about Skyrim are also calling Alduin's servants "Jills." It seems a little more than suspicious to me.
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