Could old heroes be seen in game under these circumstances w

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:41 pm

Edit: Erm, could a mod move this to the Elder Scrolls discussion forums? Meant to post this there. Kind of brainfarted.

You get to use the character creation tools to
create the character you want to be the Hero from previous games. Or a substitute NPC in case your Hero died? So that way you encounter who you want to encounter. Whether it's your interpretation of a Hero, your Hero or just no Hero and a substitute NPC in their place.

Could that satisfy the fanbase?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:11 pm

better leave them disappeared like it is now i say, people can make up whatever story for it themselves.

many people actually already RP a followup of their previous character or even make up something that its the same character.

trying to put it in the game will be tricky and too few people compared to the entire fanbase will be interested in it, because with each new game a swarm of new people come in who are clueless about the previous games. giving this option will simply confuse them.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:47 pm

I was thinking more along the lines of, just a way to make it so if they were put in, would this way satisfy most people who had played previous games for plugging their old character into the game. Would more likely be a mod if anything.

As someone who is role playing a Dunmer from Morrowind in Skyrim I am well aware of people RP their previous characters but this is not so much a w'ould people want it' thing but a 'is it feasible' thing. I guess lol.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:20 am

Honestly, I'd prefer to see a statue or something, like of a mage in a face-concealing hood and robe, or a warrior in a full suit of platemail. Then you could have NPCs complaining how the sculptor forgot the tail, because the Eternal Champion was clearly an Argonian, while another NPC thinks this is a load of bull, since everybody knows she was an Altmer.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:37 am

Most of my heroes from past games are dead during the events of Skyrim.

If you're thinking of making a mod for this kind of thing, then don't worry about it. There's no mod that satisfies most players, but you'll definitely find people interested in the idea. But as far as an official canonized return of a past player-character? That's just a bad idea.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:39 am

You will never satisfy the fanbase.

Ever.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:14 am

You will never satisfy the fanbase.

Ever.
What is this blasphemy?! Surely no one has any problems with Skyrim?! IGN and other sites say it perfect!

On topic I agree that it's a bad idea and nope this won't likely be a mod. Just more like me thinking "Hey what if this, this and this happened then maybe people would be fine with that and that!" I should probably know better...
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:21 pm

The Nerevarine drew as one the Dunmer murals, maybe. They're satisfactorily vague sometimes.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:23 am

Being that my main PlayerCharacter is the same from Arena to Skyrim, the only two people showing up from other games would be Cyrus who is long dead aswell as a pre-defined character, and a Battlespire character.

The only character that is likely or even really capable of making a reappearance is the Nerevarine due to being ageless. That could perhaps and really only be handled through vague tales of 'a figure from the 3rd Era returned, the Nerevarine supposedly returned from Akavir and doing - in whatever province we are currently not in'. And even then people like my Nerevarine-Dragonborn would be wanting to hunt the imposter down.

We have the CoC-turned-Sheogorath, but thats a whoel different things since they are effectively just Sheogorath in every way. I doubt there will even be Oblivion references on his next appearance.

Its just a nasty can of worms for a series that has always claimed your hero/oine is what you want.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:58 am

If one portrays their character in Oblivion and Skyrim as the same, then why couldn't that character wear the Amulet of Kings? If he was the same one for even more games, surely someone would recognise him. And if you played him as a heroic character, then why does he keep getting arrested?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:26 am

I was thinking they might have started implementing this already. Especially in Skyrim.

There would be things needed in place of course, but say they worked it how Mass Effect tied their games together.

IE: If you still have your Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall saves on your PC Skyrim would be able to pull bits from that and put them into random bits of conversation during your game or into a history book found in game, etc etc...

The capabilities are there.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:45 am

What is this blasphemy?! Surely no one has any problems with Skyrim?! IGN and other sites say it perfect!

Have you checked out General yet? People are already pissin' and moanin' about how Oblivion was better. Let alone the usual stuff from the ye old Morrowind crowd.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:28 am

Have you checked out General yet? People are already pissin' and moanin' about how Oblivion was better. Let alone the usual stuff from the ye old Morrowind crowd.

That's why I don't stray often from the warm bosom of Lady N the Lore Forum.

Those fetchers got nothing but problems.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:41 am

My char was a master in acrobatics, athletics and mysticism. Sorry, he can't be used in Skyrim. :D
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:55 pm

My char was a master in acrobatics, athletics and mysticism. Sorry, he can't be used in Skyrim. :biggrin:

Ouch. Skyrim did give you a curved sword. Sounds like a unique char build, anyway...
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:24 am

Doubt it. Highly. Unless they're just a brief, masked apparition that doesn't speak.

EDIT: On Skyrim General; its equal parts naysayers and hoo-rayers. Neither side ever puts forth a well structured, reasonable argument. Its either "TODD GOD HOWARD, I DEMAND TOILETS! HOW IS MY DRAGONBORN SUPPOSED TO POOP LIKE A GENTLEMAN WITHOUT TOILETS?!" or "PRAISE BE TO THE GOD-EMPEROR OF MANKIND TODD HOWARD, PROTECTOR OF THE IMPERIUM MODERN DAY GAMING INDUSTRY! BURN THE HERETIC, WHO WOULD SLANDER OUR GLORIOUS SAVIOR'S http://a1.img.mobypicture.com/553595854513aa96640593e22891b93b_view.jpg GREAT NAME! SUFFER NOT THE ALIEN FPS PLAYER TO LIVE!"
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:26 am

Oh....general discussion. General Discussion never changes.

Always they whine and moan.

They are the reason I stay in this lone church of lore, and the art based city of Fan fiction. General Discuccion is like a overpoupulated city, with homes that hardly stay in place, angry folk all about, and a overtasked police force.

Wait, we're talking about old heroes here.

Eh, sounds like a novel idea, but your not going to be able to please many. I do like the idea of a statue or mural that no one is quite sure about though.........
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:24 am

If one portrays their character in Oblivion and Skyrim as the same, then why couldn't that character wear the Amulet of Kings? If he was the same one for even more games, surely someone would recognise him. And if you played him as a heroic character, then why does he keep getting arrested?

Two ways around it. First, you just never tried it on, out of respect or it just never occuring before its in the hands of Jauffre. Second, perhaps it is just attuned to the line of Kings or the Septims. I went with the first. As an old friend of Uriel (Arena and Daggerfall) my character respectfully took care of the amulet and had no desire to try it on. You only find out you can't if you try; therefor therefor since my character didn't, the game mechanics will never matter. "You, i've seen you, let me look at your face." Takes ona whole new meaning, as does the faith the Emperor has in you to stand against Dagon. Also, mods. =P

Recogniton? Roleplay it and blame it on game limitations. On the other hand, in Morrowind you only passed through in Arena, you never go back to Daggerfall, and in Oblivon there has been all the tie between Daggerfall and Morrowind since you have even been in Cyrodiil. I have Ocato recognise the character, but thats not until the end of the MQ.

Second is more fun. Arena, the original reason, Tharn. Daggerfall she was the only one Uriel trusted. Morrowind, she chose to betray the Empire and gave the Underking the Totem and a letter from Lady Brisenna arrived before I reached the Mantella. In Oblivion, Helseth could have betrayed the Nerevarine - but I personally chose to use an alternate start mod and winded up in that fateful jail in the middle of a TG mission. Skyrim is after 200 yeras of trying to live a subdued life.

Its pretty easy to do really, more so on the PC snce you can 'fix' the ability differences.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:28 am



Have you checked out General yet? People are already pissin' and moanin' about how Oblivion was better. Let alone the usual stuff from the ye old Morrowind crowd.
Yes I have. Pretty much the reason for that part of my post.

I have seen many threads about it. There are good points on both sides of the board. I haven't played Skyrim since 2011 so you can guess where I probably side. Skyrim we quite underwhelming for me. The world itself was pretty great but most of the rest? Well I just won't get into it here. There are good points and even some very good arguments though.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:30 am

Yes I have. Pretty much the reason for that part of my post.

Sorry, missed the sarcasm.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 am

What is this blasphemy?! Surely no one has any problems with Skyrim?! IGN and other sites say it perfect!

On topic I agree that it's a bad idea and nope this won't likely be a mod. Just more like me thinking "Hey what if this, this and this happened then maybe people would be fine with that and that!" I should probably know better...

On this site, it's more "Surely, nobody can like Skyrim! Look at all the posts saying how badly it svcks!"

As far as the topic, nah. A mention is about as much as you can expect.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:06 am

I find Skyrim an all around better game, gameplay, lore, and... well pretty much everything. But.

Despite how much they messed with the Lore of it; I find Cyrodiil as portrayed in Oblivion a much nicer place to inhabit. I love the woods, and hills, and flowers and plants everywhere. I like that down south towards Black Marsh it gets swampy, and north more sparse and cold. I liked the cities, especially Cheydinhal, and the path up to Skingrad castle was very well made. Skyrim is a very beautiful game, but for a roleplaying for long periods there is only so much snow I can stand. I tend to stay around Riften, Whiterun and so forth on my none-Nord characters.

I also love Paarthunax and the Ulfric characters, but in Oblivion I really liked Martin, Jauffry, Baurus, Haskil and so many others. People are pretyt abrasive in Skyrim, much like back in the days of Morrowind.

Again, I must prefer Skyrim, but there are areas/aspects I enjoyed more in Oblivion.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:24 pm

Well since we are off topic.

Personally, I feel like Skyrim took a lot more steps forward then it did backward. However the things it stepped back on were more important to me personally. Obviously tastes differ so naturally other people liked the changes while some others like me didn't. I don't begrudge Bethesda though. Some people seem to feel like their Newborn baby got murdered by Bethesda sometimes.

However thankfully those people do complain and those complaints can potentially lead to a better game. Really the reason there are so many complainers is because those are really the only people who have a reason to say anything about the game. Most People(damn ye unwashed masses and so forth) seem to follow this general rule for some reason. Heavy on the criticism and light on the praise. Not many people are going to go out of their way to join a forum and essentially say I love this game. Negative emotions garner bigger and more varied responses and are usually what lead to actions being taken. Especially the whole "X is not good enough" thing. However positive things can come of those things like stuff like (progressively more so but not quite there yet)equal rights and better wages etc etc...
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:19 pm

You will never satisfy the fanbase.

Ever.
Truer words were never spoken.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:54 am

More like steps sideways. The game mechanics in in place aren't necessarily more primitive, just different. As some around here have said, usually not with the most pleasant connotation, Oblivion/Skyrim is a player-focused game, where my skill matters more in some ways than my character's. Daggerfall/Morrowind are more character-focused. I personally prefer the newer entries.

And even if technically I CAN do anything, I don't. My skill in Restoration is low? Ok, no Healing Hands for me. Oh, what a lovely mace you've given me, but I focused on the sword branch of the one-handed perk tree. If others choose not to play that way, who gives a damn? It's a single-player game.
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