I have a substantial modlist, have OBMM and am a Wrye Bash noob, so bear with me.

Here's my modlist:

Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp
Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
Francesco's Optional Files.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Midas Betterholy.esp
Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp
Midas PowDur4x.esp
Midas Eldrich Power 4x.esp
Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp
Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
Kobu's Health Modifier Mod.esp
Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp
Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
bgMagicItemSigil.esp
bgMagicEVStartspells.esp
bgMagicBonus.esp
bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp
bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp
bgMagicAlchemy.esp
bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp
bgMagicEVShader.esp
bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_DLCSpellTome.esp
SM_EnchantStaff.esp
SM_Scrolls.esp
SM_SigilStone.esp
SM_DeadlyReflex.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp
kuerteeCleanUp.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp
bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp
eldritchmaster.esp
bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp
bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp
bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp
bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp
bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp
Dread Knight Armor.esp
New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
bgBalancingEVCore.esp


My game crashes frequently and often, sometimes right after loading. If needed I can post a DxDiag, but the peeps over in the tech support forum are pretty sure its a mod conflict. Thanks in advance for any help.

Download http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 and give that a try, then rebuild your bashed patch.

Make sure you read the report it generates.

That should help stabilize it.

yes to BOSS....it would load the Patch (xulPatch_AY_AC.esp ) you have loading after the Bash Patch right up there with the Mod it belongs with AC& AY

You can find a link to the download and installation instructions for BOSS here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep.

Thanks for the replies, I have BOSS now and used it. One thing I don't understand in the results listing is the "patch tag suggestion." When I click on one of the mods in Wrye Bash, the Bash Tags window in the lower right lists all the suggested tags. Do I need to do something with them manually or does Wrye Bash do it for me when the Bashed Patch gets rebuilt?

You have to check the plugins under the appropriate section in the rebuilding dialog. Here is a guide for what to check: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/bashedpatch. "Safe" means you can check everything there, excepting the exception that may be bullet-ed underneath.


Edit: ...forgot the link

Okay, did what those links posted and no joy. Since I'm running the Alternate Start Arrive by Ship mod, I have to go pick up the amulet of Kings from a rat in the sewers. As soon as I exit, the game CTDs, although sometimes it waits for a Fast Travel attempt.

Here's the error code:

AppName: oblivion.exe AppVer: 1.2.0.416 ModName: oblivion.exe
ModVer: 1.2.0.416 Offset: 003d22d5

0xc0000005

The zero number is the detail.

I suppose I could just uninstall all the mods I downloaded, but I know I've played with more before with no problem, including things like OOO and other sweeping change type mods.

Please, post your BOSS-organized load order.

Here it is:



-----------------------------------------------------------
Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility

© Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009-2010
Some rights reserved.
CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
v1.51 (2 April 2010)
-----------------------------------------------------------

Master .ESM date: Mon Jan 01 04:01:00 2001
FCOM not detected.
OOO not detected.
Better Cities not detected.


------------------------------------
Recognised and re-ordered mod files:
------------------------------------

Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData,Actors.Stats, Stats}}

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
. Note: For use with Better Cities use 'ClocksOfCyrodiilBC.esp' or 'ClocksOfCyrodiilOBC.esp' or 'ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp'

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp
. Note: Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug.

Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp
. Note: Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug.

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

Dread Knight Armor.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}}

Francesco's Optional Files.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Relev}}

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

Knights.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenLeafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
. Note: Make sure version is 1.6.3 or later.

xulbravilbarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
. Note: Only use one UL Rolling Hills esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
. Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.

Harvest [Flora].esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}}

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}}

Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Graphics}}

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp
. Requires: Supreme Magicka.
. Note: Only use if placing L.A.M.E. files before Supreme Magika to keep SM spell stats.
. Note: Always place this file after Supreme Magika.

MidasSpells.esp

Midas Betterholy.esp

Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp
. Note: Use only one Reduced Costs module at a time

Midas PowDur4x.esp
. Note: Use only one PowDur modifier at a time. Load after midasspells.esp

Midas Eldrich Power 4x.esp
. Note: Use only one Eldrich Power modifier at a time. Load after PowDur modifiers.

Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp
. Note: Pick either the Non OBSE version or this one. But not both. Do not run without Oblivion Script Extender.

Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp
. Note: Pick either the Non OBSE version or this one. But not both. Do not run without Oblivion Script Extender.

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
. Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP.

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
. Note: See http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues.

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp

Kobu's Health Modifier Mod.esp

Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp

Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp
. Note: Choose only one 'Assassins Creed' ESP.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics,R.Relations}}

bgBalancingEVCore.esp
. Requires: bgBalancingNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp is required if Shivering Isles not installed.

bgMagicEV.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Delev,Relev}} if you are running more than one magic overhaul and want to use LAME spell names.
. Note: Move Supreme Magica after LAME if you want Supreme Magica spell stats.

bgMagicItemSigil.esp

bgMagicEVStartspells.esp

bgMagicBonus.esp

bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp

bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp

bgMagicAlchemy.esp

bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp
. Note: Use only one 'OptionalNPCDiversity' file.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}} and deactivate.

bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp
. Requires: LAME and Shivering Isles.

bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp
. Requires: LAME and Shivering Isles.

bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp

bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp
. Requires: Shivering Isles and Luchaire's Body Seam Reducer.

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

bgMagicEVShader.esp

bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp

bgMagicLightningbolt.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

kuerteeCleanUp.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown mod file: eldritchmaster.esp


-----------------------------------------------------------
Done.

Post your load order, not the BOSS log...Use Wrye Bash to post your load order. It is more informative. What is that mod that BOSS does not recognize? You need to move it to a proper location in your load order. Post the ESP in the BOSS thread with a link to its upload page so that it can be added to the BOSS masterlist.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods

The unknown mod is just a "custom class" mod I made in the CS, shouldn't conflict with anything.

Here's the Wrye Bash Load List, I went ahead and deleted the Natural Environments plugins, and will probably get the "All Natural" mod listed in the alternatives link you posted.

Masters for: Save 2 - Darshu Kale - Edgar's Discount Spells, Level 1, Playing Time 00.40.47.ess
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
04 HorseCombatMaster.esm
05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.5]
06 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
07 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
08 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
09 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0A AliveWaters.esp
0B AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
0C AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
0D ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
0E Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp
0F Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp
10 DLCHorseArmor.esp
11 DLCOrrery.esp
12 DLCVileLair.esp
13 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
14 DLCSpellTomes.esp
15 Dread Knight Armor.esp
16 Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp
17 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
18 DLCThievesDen.esp
19 Francesco's Optional Files.esp
1A DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
1B DLCfrostcrag.esp
1C Knights.esp
1D The Lost Spires.esp
1E xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1F xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
20 xulTheHeath.esp
21 XulEntiusGorge.esp
22 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
23 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
24 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
25 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
26 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
27 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
28 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
29 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
2A xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
2B xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
2C xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
2D xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.2]
2E xulPantherRiver.esp
2F xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
30 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
31 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
32 xulBlackwoodForest.esp
33 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
34 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
35 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
36 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
37 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
38 Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
39 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3A Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
3B Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
3C Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
3D Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
3E Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
3F Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp
40 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89]
41 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
42 SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
43 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
44 SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
45 SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]
46 bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.5]
----> Delinquent MASTER: bgMagicEV.esp
47 MidasSpells.esp
48 Midas Betterholy.esp
49 Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp
4A Midas PowDur4x.esp
4B Midas Eldrich Power 4x.esp
4C Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp
4D Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp
4E Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
4F DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
50 SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]
51 Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
52 Kobu's Health Modifier Mod.esp
53 Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp
54 Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp
55 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
56 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
57 bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
58 bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
59 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
5A bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
5B bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
5C bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
5D bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]
5E bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
5F bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
60 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
61 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
62 bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
63 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
64 bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
65 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp
66 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
67 bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
68 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
69 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
6A kuerteeCleanUp.esp
6B Streamline 3.1.esp
6C eldritchmaster.esp

Remove bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp. You have LAME loading after SM, so that defeats the purpose of that plugin. Remove the fran day length mod, and use the relevant bashed patch tweak (right-click on Globals>Time Scale and choose 16 or something...) Deactivate green, purple and italicized plugins. After deactivating them, you should see dots or plus signs in their check boxes, signifying they are virtually activated through the bashed patch. Also, install http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22410 (to fix CTD on exit) and http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23208 to help with memory management (primarily for FPS smoothing.) Make the recommended http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/oblivion edits, and make sure your http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/streamline is configured properly as well. You can find instructions (for the level at which you should extract the OSR archive) here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep.

Remember to rebuild your bashed patch after making any changes to your load order.

Working on applying all these changes, but for the life of me I cannot find the "Global" bashed patch tweak. Is that in the Rebuild menu, because when I rebuild the patch not only is there not a Global submenu, I can't right click on anything.

The submenu is "Globals" and I am using WB v283. You should download that version if you do not already have it.

Kay downloaded and rebuilding the Bashed Patch now. If this still doesn't work, any other ideas? Any mods I should just ditch?

Yeah still no joy. When I exit the sewers after getting the Amulet, the load screen fully loads, the screen goes blank with the noise of the gate shutting, and then the game CTDs.

I got rid of all the weather mods through Wrye Bash, so I can't imagine its some freak weather script that keeps replaying.

I mean, its the same error message and code each time, at the exact same spot. Its so damn annoying and the game is unplayable.

Repost your load order after the rebuild finishes. Remember to uncheck the mods I mentioned unchecking before, before rebuilding the bashed patch. Try testing this setup on a new game to make sure it is stable. Your mod list looks fine to me. If you made the suggest INI changes linked in my earlier post and added the two OBSE plugins along with OBSE v18, you should fair pretty well. Make sure your mods are up to date.

Are you getting all the notes and stuff from the DLCs when you originally start the game? I think some of them are meant to be given to you when you exit the sewers for the first time.

Yeah I get all the DLC notes and stuff.

I started a new character and was able to play for a little while, but now I'm getting a new CTD with a different offset: 0007fad5

Not sure what that is referring to...

Try installing the http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2&displaylang=en update too.

K, installed the runtime update, although I think I may have already had it. Here's the current loadlist, along with the changes (unchecked green/purple etc. showing plus signs):

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm04  HorseCombatMaster.esm==  ROOT=====================05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp06  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.5]07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]==  COSMETIC=================08  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]==  MISC.====================09  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp0A  DLCHorseArmor.esp0B  DLCOrrery.esp0C  DLCSpellTomes.esp==  HOME=====================0D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp0E  DLCThievesDen.esp0F  DLCVileLair.esp==  QUEST====================10  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp11  Knights.esp12  The Lost Spires.esp==  NONE=====================13  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]14  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp15  AliveWaters.esp16  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp17  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp18  Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp19  Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp1A  Dread Knight Armor.esp1B  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp1C  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp1D  Francesco's Optional Files.esp1E  DLCfrostcrag.esp1F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]20  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]21  xulTheHeath.esp22  XulEntiusGorge.esp23  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]24  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]25  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]26  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]27  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]28  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]29  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]2A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]2B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]2C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]2D  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]2E  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2F  xulPantherRiver.esp30  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]31  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]32  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]33  xulBlackwoodForest.esp34  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]35  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]36  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp37  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]38  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]39  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]3A  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]3B  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]3C  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp3D  Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp3E  MidasSpells.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Midas PowDur4x.esp++  Midas Eldrich Power 4x.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp3F  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp40  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp41  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp42  Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp43  Kobu's Health Modifier Mod.esp44  Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp45  Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp46  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]47  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]48  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]49  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]4A  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]4B  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]4C  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp4D  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]4E  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]4F  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]++  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.5]50  kuerteeCleanUp.esp51  Streamline 3.1.esp52  Bashed Patch, 0.esp53  eldritchmaster.esp

Again thanks for all the help ya'all.

I recommend using BOSS over BALO...That load order is strange...RBP certainly should not be one of the first mods in your load order. It is usually not too many plugins from the end. DLCBattlehornCastle and Knights do not belong earlier in your load order either. Please, re-run BOSS on that load order. Make sure to rebuild your bashed patch after making changes to your LO.

OK, I've done ALL the suggestions, and what I'm getting is still random CTDs, although not as frequent as before, but it almost seems like its a certain amount of playtime. I'd think it was savegame bloat, but the game is only a couple of hours old at most. Here's the new LO in WB, after using BOSS:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm04  HorseCombatMaster.esm05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.5]06  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]07  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0A  AliveWaters.esp0B  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp0C  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp0D  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp0E  Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp0F  Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp10  DLCHorseArmor.esp11  DLCOrrery.esp12  DLCVileLair.esp13  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp14  DLCSpellTomes.esp15  Dread Knight Armor.esp16  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp17  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp18  DLCThievesDen.esp19  Francesco's Optional Files.esp1A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp1B  DLCfrostcrag.esp1C  Knights.esp1D  The Lost Spires.esp1E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]20  xulTheHeath.esp21  XulEntiusGorge.esp22  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]23  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]24  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]25  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]26  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]27  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]28  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]29  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]2A  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]2B  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]2C  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]2D  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2E  xulPantherRiver.esp2F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]30  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]31  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]32  xulBlackwoodForest.esp33  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]34  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]35  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp36  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]37  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]38  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]39  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]3A  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]3B  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp3C  Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp3D  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]3E  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]3F  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]++  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.5]40  MidasSpells.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Midas PowDur4x.esp++  Midas Eldrich Power 4x.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp41  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp42  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp43  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]44  Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp45  Kobu's Health Modifier Mod.esp46  Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp47  Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp48  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]49  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]4A  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]4B  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]4C  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]4D  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]4E  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]4F  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp50  Bashed Patch, 0.esp51  kuerteeCleanUp.esp52  Streamline 3.1.esp53  eldritchmaster.esp

I actuall just did a clean re-install of my video card drivers as well (uninstalled all ATI and deleted directories) just to be on the safe side, and still the CTDs persist. Its almost like this game is trying to not be run intentionally, any other game I have, such as X3 Terran Conflict runs just fine, and I've been told thats very processor intensive.

If it were save game bloat you could tell by seeing a huge jump in the size of your saves. Right-click on a save in WB's Saves tab to use the relevant fix if you need to, however. If you have a 64-bit OS and at least 4 gigabytes of RAM, you can install the LAA patch. There is a link to the relevant thread here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization. Memory related crashes are related to the amount of time you have been playing during a session. Hitting the memory ceiling is inevitable with many mods installed. Your list is not that extensive. Still, the more mods you have installed, the quicker you hit the cap. Check that thread out. Have you http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/tunesetup/cleaning? Cleaning them should help with some random CTDs. How often are the CTDs occurring?


You can check out this load orders database to see what I mean when I say your setup is kind of light for "frequent" CTDs: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders.

Well it seems now the mod issues are somehwat solved although I'm still getting the occasional CTD. Now, the fun I have to deal with is my "ati2dvag.dll" file has stopped working on a number of occasions, so I'm dl'ing the Omega drivers to see if that works.

Good luck on your load order, if you work at it, a modded Oblivion is FUN.