In the battle of Red Mountain, Kagrenac used his tools on the heart of Lorkhan and the entire race disappeared, except for Yagrum Bagarn, who was in an "Outer Realm" at the time. According to Vivec, Kagrenac used his tools when he was loosing the battle. Is it possible that he used the heart to flee and teleport the Dwemer to an outer realm? If Bagarn could travel to and from an outer realm with ease, it seems likely that the Dwemer had built civilizations in outer realms. If the Dwemer all teleported there, maybe they started to improve their technology and prepare to come back to the mortal realm some time in the future? A few eras have passed since then, but it's still a possibility.

Sorry if this has been discussed before.

I think the Dwemer are history. It's been said that they used up their souls in the attempt to become a god.

http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/luagararticle1.shtml

When you say "Outer realm" that just means any outer realm. Example in Oblivion when you travel through the strange door to the Shivering Isles. The shivering isles is another realm. Just like any other daedra realm. The Tamriel realm is just known as the "mortal plane".

I was all for the Dwemer going to another realm but the overwhelming evidence that makes me think they all died is in the Tribunal quest where you go the Dwemer ruin beneath the city and see all the ash piles there. Every single Dwemer essentially died instantly. If they went to another realm why would they leave ashes? I what makes it confusing is the different points of stories told to what actually happened. The Truth is only two people would know. That's Nerevar...not the reborn..the original..he's dead. And Dagoth Ur. B/c from what i understand everyone else was outside on the mountain slopes when Dumac and Nerevar battled it out except Dagoth Ur of course...Vivec tells his story as to what he thinks happened...but he wasn't there when it all went down. It doesn't make sense to me that Dumac would do this accidently. I'm sure he knew what he was doing..he couldn't have made that kind of mistake. I think what ever happened it happened on purpose. Maybe Nerevar or Dagoth Ur knew what to do with the tools b/c Azura told them how to disrupt Lorkhan's heart and sever the Dwemer's connection to the Divine power, and once that happened they ceased to exist. Azura got pissed at the Dwemer b/c they tried to create their own god. Azura got pissed at the Tribunal b/c they set themselves up as Gods.

In other words...don't cross the boss. The REAL god is Azura.

Who got face-[censored] by Vivec. You know any REAL gods who get face-[censored]?

And the Dwemer never left. Numidium, anyone?

I actually have a question about that. I can accept the idea that Kagrenac planned to ascend his entire race to a single god-machine. It fits the character. However, does that necessarily mean he succeeded? If so, why the Mantella, and how would Akulakhan have worked with the heart of Lorkhan? Just help me out here, because it's a fun idea and I'm curious.

Also, in some endings Numidium is destroyed. Does that mean they're really gone if they did succeed?

The Mantella was a replacement power source/stone/whatever when Vivec did not give Tiber Septim the Heart. It probably would have worked a lot better with the Heart, because it was made for it. Unfortunately for the Dwemer, in the final stages of Kagrenac's plan, the Chimer attacked, leading to Kagrenac to carrying out the ascension prematurely, neglecting to put the Heart in Numidium before ascending his entire race into Numidium's skin.

Hmm...noooo..no no no. They're not coming back. Read Luagar's paper. They're pretty much done in.

It's a shame that paper was submitted to Trebonius. I personally doubt the man understood any of the basic concepts contained therein. I once asked him if he could help me in the construction of an artificial welkynd stone and he replied "Jewelry is for women." -__-''

The Dwemer became the skin of numidium and were destroyed with it.

<_< That's disappointing. Oh well. Too bad Bagarn can't repopulate the race because A. He's a male and races take on the characteristics of the mother and B. He's buried under lava and ash now.

why does one dwemer remain? was he suppose to put the heart into it to power up the god?

He was in an outer realm when the Dwemer disappeared, so there's no real reason for his existence, it's just coincidental.

Or Azura manipulated the events, knowing he would, at least in part, aid the nerevarine?

I don't think it was coincidental. I even remember somebody say something along the lines of "where have the dwemer gone? better to ask why does one remain." I think vivec said that I can't be sure.

I guess he helped a bit, but if that's all he was left alive for than Azura proves yet again she's a manipulative [censored]. I mean, he wandered all of Tamriel searching for other remaining Dwemer, and when he didn't find any he went back to Morrowind and got Corpus disease, suffering for centuries just to help the Nerevarine out. <_<

Well, she's a manipulative... witch and so if she was willing to curse an entire race for looking away from her, what is the suffering of one mere mortal? The more I think about it, the less I like her.

Azura was the one who informed Nerevar of the Dwemer's building of Numidium. It wouldn't be beyond her.

And don't forget the Dwemer ghosts in those ruins. Some are still there, they're just undead. Or so I think.

Sotha Sil's last words. I think that was Fyr though.

my mistake couldn't remember the exact quote

He got max Luck. He just lucky.

When you think about it, the presumed deaths of Bagarn and the other patients of the corprusarium are a mercy killing. Bagarn lived for millennia after all the rest of his people were destroyed, but to what purpose? So that he could live in an asylum with other corprus victims and have the occasional conversation with the cloned "daughters" of Fyr? Indeed, it wouldn't surprise me if the only surviving corprus victim now is the Nerevarine.

I hope Fyr and his "daughters" survived the Red Year, but it doesn't seem likely (unless maybe he used teleportation when everything hit the fan).

I could see Fyr as getting out. He was/is pretty smart, and was probably even asked to counsel Vuhon about how to go about keeping such a massive thing airborne. If he knew about it, he was likely smart enough to get the hell out.

That would almost imply the Dwemer achieved Chim/Zero Sum. But I doubt it.

He wasn't popular enough

And most likely left said task to Yagrum instead. Unfortunately, that didn't work out so well.