In fallout 3 I felt the lone wanderer was I bit rude to the companions with dismissal while the courier is a bit nicer about it like in 3 The sergeant he asked if he heard it wrong and you had to say yeah get the hell out of here or he stays while NV the courier just asks them nicely while cass he could have been a bit more meaner but the rest of them are good and he asks them nicely. What do you guy think is the lone wanderer a tad more meaner to companions that the courier.

Well with your father getting killed, Super Mutants at every corner, and with Enclave trying to poison the wasteland you wouldn't exactly be the happiest guy or girl in the world.

But seriously: this is the post-apocalyptic wasteland, and you're worried about manners? :slap:

To me yeah it adds more immersion for me I would like to have nicer and total [censored] face commments to get them to go. I was think of this while I was playing fallout 3 today.

I don't think the characters are defined really. You're talking about one person who, for me, ranged from a Russian with schizophrenia who fought with himself to someone with a vow to never kill (who also fainted at the sight of blood and upward movement). Ah, memories.

The Lone Wanderer was just a dorky little [censored].

"Oh PLEAAASSE tell me where my Papa is! I miss him SOOOO much!"


Of course if you compare that to a guy who greets people who think he's dead with "I'm a GHOOOOOST! WooooOOoOOOooo!!" and "Apparently you need to work on your aim" then the Lone Wanderer seems like a dork. Cause he is.

I think that the Lone Wanderer would win because of Liberty Prime...

It depends.

I like the Courier better as you have a bit more freedom of choosing your character's history. With Lone Wanderer, it's not as easy and he/she pretty much runs into people going "WHERE IS MY DAD!?"

With Three Dog, your choice dialogues if you agree to help him is pretty much "WHERE IS MY DADDY!? I'LL DO ANYTHING TO FIND DADDY!!!"

With the Courier, it's not as bad. Yes, you're trying to find Benny, but it's more of a personal revenge quest.

As for personality? Well, the LW is meaner than Courier because LW spent the first 19 years of his/her life in a Vault surrounded by people, most of whom didn't like him/her and daddy-dearest, then is pushed out into the real world where just about everything down to the dogs want to kill them. That and a certian big-bad government gunning for them, I can see why the LW has put niceness in the back burner.

Writing quality aside, I understand The Lone Wanderer's apparent loneliness and rudeness quite well. He's had the crappiest life out of all the protagonists.

Like most people have said he's had a crap life and manner are the least of his problems.
Though I do like how the LW evolves as the story develops from the pansy "Where's my daddy!? Pwease tew me !!!" to the "Yeah, I killed that Behemoth, what of it?"....*Pew Pew* Kinda guy or maybe that cause he realises his dads a dike

I do enjoy the Couriers choices in dialogue being more open, Fallout 3's dialogue was usually 'Do I want to say dike Option A or dike Option B?'

Being a sarcastic dike is the best thing in ALL fallout games ^_^

Agreed, TLW has a reason to be an [censored].

"Tell me the code to the purifier." says Colonel Autumn
"[censored] you, I'm not telling you anything." says the brat.
"I'll be honest. I'm running out of patience here, and I'm not looking to play games with you! Tell me now, or it'll cost you!"
"no no no no no. Seriously. [censored] you."

That was one of my favourite parts of fallout 3.

Does anyone know if the couriers' dialogue options change depending on age or not?

Agreed. That's another reason I liked the presets for the wanderer so much.

(Of course) not.

Wasteland = Manners, i think not. Wanderer all the way. 100%

I wouldn't expect a guy whose lost his dad, got exiled from the Vault, and is forced to go do [censored] he never thought he would of been able to do is going to go up to people saying "Jolly good day, sir. I say, have you seen my father? He has been missing for quite some time and I would greatly appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction."

Well he is the lone wanderer .

Probably it's because the Capital Wasteland is truly a wasteland, with constant cloud cover, pervasive radiation, utter chaos and things waiting aroun every corner to take your life.

The Mojave feels more like a place slowly decaying with time, but not truly a post-apocalyptic wasteland ... there are large settlemtns, casinos, plenty of places to rest, blue sunny skies .... not really the same sense of utter despair that Fallout 3 captured so well.

In Mojave, they're irrigating crops and gambling, worrying about NCR politics

In DC, they're trying to stop vampires, Raiders and Super Mutants from taking away what little they've left.

I'd be pissed off if I lived in the Capital Wasteland, too.

Varies who gets first shot.

Courier with a Anti-Material Rifle, or... Lone Wanderer with the Firelance.

The dialogue options in FNV are way better than F3. F3 they are just rude! Not to mention a bit suicidel. Would you really say mean things to scary people like Jericho and Fawkes?! You'd be more likely to end up on their weapons talking to them like that! I hate how some of the dismissal options in F3 are so unnesseserily rude and nasty.
It's just bad writing and nothing else.
FNV the options are a lot more sensible and nice and polite. I was very glad that they were so much better written.

I agree with this. Plus, the western portion of the US has been patching itself together for the last 203 years, so it's natural that things are looking better as of 2281.

The Capital Wasteland, however, site on the Tidal Basin, which is very irradiated, so process patching things up are slow. Not to mention the hundreds of ruined buildings from Pre-War DC.

So, it wouldn't surprise me if the LW wasn't nice. (Plus, consider that he/she grew up in a vault where pretty much everyone treated him/her as an outsider, especially the Overseer and the Tunnel Snakes.)

I've been seeing alot of the LWs life svcks, which in a sense yes and no. He lost his home and his dad but he got to explore more when exiled from the vault I personally would think that's pretty cool besides all the bullets and lasers. Yeah your dads a dike who left you behind, I would say [censored] you too when I see him. But I would think the courier would be a bit meaner because well he got shot in the head. But I think there should be an dikeish and nicer way of dissmissing companions.

There is more chance to roleplay with FNV. You can do what you like with their origins. You can with F3 too but the origin is spelled out to a point and it spoils the roleplaying a bit because you end up forced to do the hunt dad thing.
If I could I would say screw this, time to kick some ass and join the Enclave. I would leave James to his fate or death if I could.
Personally I think James was a stupid d**khead for going into vault 101. Seriously, what idiot tries to get into a sick, vile, disgusting place like that?!

I don't think the LW is any meaner than the Courier. The dialogue is less well written and too mean, thats what makes you look mean. But theres no reason you would be mean.
The LWs life is'nt harder than the Couriers. Neither have a place to stay at the start, and both have to start adventuring straight away. The only diference is the level of radiation, 4 years diference and the ammount of clean water. And a better goal for the Courier.

The dialogue just is'nt as well written in F3 and it's unnesseserily mean in parts.
In F3, if you want to roleplay a polite but evil person like I do, the dialogue does'nt always give you the option to be polite. I see no reason why a evil person would be rude nesseserily.
Apart from one horrible dlc. That goes too far the other way.
In the horrible and pointless logic hole that is The Pitt dlc, you don't have evil options in parts of it! That forces you to say soppy and stupid things that no person, evil or good would ever say! It's like some moron thought you would'nt want to say evil, cruel or uncaring things! Believe me, I would be the meanest, nastiest person in existance in that if I could. But this time and all other playthroughs, I am killing Wherner on sight the moment I see him.

Don't bash the Lone Wanderer. He is more battle hardened than the Courier. He's braved countless super mutant hordes, lobotimite tribals with iron skin, super mutant overlords, super mutant behemoths, friggin' aliens, raiders, a [censored] load more yaoi goai, a [censored] load more deathclaws, subways crawling with ghouls, Albino Radscorpions, Operation: Anchorage, Anchorage Outcasts, and the Enclave.

The Lone Wanderer would kick the living nuts out of the Courier in a heart beat.

My Courier would destroy my Lone wanderer.