Crash at startup, load order? : IV

» Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:59 pm

I got a spark to return to Oblivion but get a crash at startup.

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]04  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.4.0]09  HorseCombatMaster.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0A  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.4]0B  UOPS Additional Changes.esp0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp0E  Better Cities .esp0F  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]10  LoadingScreens.esp11  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]12  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]13  MIS.esp14  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp15  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp16  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp17  bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp  [Version 1.6]18  GuildOwnership1.2.esp19  Living Economy.esp1A  CleanQuit.esp1B  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]1C  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]1D  DLCHorseArmor.esp1E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]1F  DLCOrrery.esp20  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]21  DLCVileLair.esp22  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]23  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp24  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]25  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp26  mnp Nighteye Goggles.esp27  Armamentium female.esp28  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp29  DLCThievesDen.esp2A  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]2B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]2C  ExnemRuneskulls.esp2D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  COBL-FransCre.esp++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]2F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]30  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]31  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]32  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]33  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp34  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp35  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]36  DLCFrostcrag.esp37  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]38  Knights.esp39  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp3A  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.9]3B  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3C  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]3D  xulTheHeath.esp3E  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]3F  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]40  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]41  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]42  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]43  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]44  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]45  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]46  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]47  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]48  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]49  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]4A  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]4B  xulPantherRiver.esp4C  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4D  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]4E  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]4F  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]50  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]51  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]52  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]53  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]54  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]55  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]56  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]57  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.1]58  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]++  BuyLockpicks.esp59  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp5A  IS_CaskOfSouls_1.1.esp5B  MarkerExplore.esp5C  movablebodies.esp5D  tag_NaturalWildlife.esp5E  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp5F  RealisticForceLow.esp60  RealisticMagicForceLow.esp61  Is It Safe.esp62  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]63  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]64  RenGuardOverhaul.esp65  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp66  Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp67  Oblivion XP.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]68  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp69  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.4.0]6A  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.4.0]6B  Better Cities - All Natural.esp6C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]6D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]6E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.0]6F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.7.0]++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 5.3.0]70  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.0]++  Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp++  SM_DeadlyReflex5.esp  [Version 0.86]**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]71  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Something causes the crash since without any mod the game starts just fine. Now I would welcome any help to find out which is the culprit.

Also I wonder are some of those UL&BC compatibility patches necessary since they're no longer found in BC package?

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Culprit indeed is one or all UL&BC patches. Which one, I wonder...

» Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:00 am

feels like a missing master , can't check your mod list, but I would advise you to look into wrye bash to get to know what is missing

» Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:50 pm

They are still required but the patches are available at the UL Compatibility Patches at Nexus. I also noticed that you were using old version of New Roads & Bridges. Might want to upgrade to the new Roads of Cyrodiil that Arthmoor created few years ago. If the problem persists, try deleting the ini and launch the game launcher to re-initialize.

» Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:29 am

The issue was outdated UL&BC patches. Downloaded and installed new one and the game fired up nicely. :banana:

I think I'll check that Roads of Cyrodiil as well.

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Does anything else stand out?

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]04  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.4.0]09  HorseCombatMaster.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0A  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.4]0B  UOPS Additional Changes.esp0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp0E  Better Cities .esp0F  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]10  LoadingScreens.esp11  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]12  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]13  MIS.esp14  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp15  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp16  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp17  bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp  [Version 1.6]18  GuildOwnership1.2.esp19  Living Economy.esp1A  CleanQuit.esp1B  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]1C  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]1D  DLCHorseArmor.esp1E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]1F  DLCOrrery.esp20  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]21  DLCVileLair.esp22  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]23  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp24  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]25  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp26  mnp Nighteye Goggles.esp27  Armamentium female.esp28  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp29  DLCThievesDen.esp2A  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]2B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]2C  ExnemRuneskulls.esp2D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  COBL-FransCre.esp++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]2F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]30  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]31  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]32  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]33  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp34  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp35  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]36  DLCFrostcrag.esp37  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]38  Knights.esp39  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp3A  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]3B  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3C  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]3D  xulTheHeath.esp3E  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]3F  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]40  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]41  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]42  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]43  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]44  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]45  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]46  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]47  ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp  [Version 1.0]48  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]49  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]4A  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]4B  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]4C  xulPantherRiver.esp4D  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4E  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]4F  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]50  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]51  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]52  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]53  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]54  ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp55  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]56  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]57  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]58  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]59  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.1]5A  ROC+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]++  BuyLockpicks.esp5B  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp5C  IS_CaskOfSouls_1.1.esp5D  MarkerExplore.esp5E  movablebodies.esp5F  tag_NaturalWildlife.esp60  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp61  RealisticForceLow.esp62  RealisticMagicForceLow.esp63  Is It Safe.esp64  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]65  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]66  RenGuardOverhaul.esp67  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp68  Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp69  Oblivion XP.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]6A  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp6B  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.4.0]6C  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.4.0]6D  Better Cities - All Natural.esp6E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3]6F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 1.3]70  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.3.0]71  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.3.0]++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 5.3.0]72  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 5.3.0]++  Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp++  SM_DeadlyReflex5.esp  [Version 0.86]**  ROC Standard Road Record.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]73  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Game at least fires up nicely.

» Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:34 pm

Glad it worked out for you. Be sure to read the readme for Roads of Cyrodiil. Arthmoor made few changes to the old mod and there are few patches that are obsolete because of it.