Crash on startup well sorta : IV

» Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:09 pm

Okay so heres the problem. I've been playing oblivion for years and adding mods all the time so I'm pretty used ot everything. I know how to you bash nad the bashed patch and such.
Anyways onto the issue at hand, I just deicded to start a new game recently and it all seems to work fine aside from the random CTD here and there. just recently though I've been crashing before even getting to the main menu, like while it's loading up all the lists of plugins, the funny part is if I have wecops enabled it works fine and I just hear the lil beep that lets you know it prevented a crash and it loads through the mod list or whatever it does on start up and I can see new game contiune blah blah...

However the minute I turn it off I can't even make it to the main menu it just crashes. If anyone has any ideas it'd be wonderful to hear them, as I've heard that wecops can sometimes cause instability, and I really liek to try the game without it.

anyways heres my load order I've used boss and made sure everything is in the right order and everything is ticked correctly in the bashed patch

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Windfall.esm02  Jog_X_Mod.esm03  ScreenEffects.esm04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b]06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b]07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]08  Harvest[Containers].esm09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]0A  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0B  VASE - core.esm0C  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0D  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0E  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0F  Artifacts.esm10  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm11  Better Cities Resources.esm12  BetterMusicSystem.esm13  CURP_Controller.esm14  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]15  HorseCombatMaster.esm16  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3]17  DLCShiveringIsles.esp18  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]19  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]1A  Better Cities .esp1B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1E  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]20  Immersive Interiors.esp21  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp22  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp23  Side's EAX Control.esp  [Version 1.0]24  WindowLightingSystem.esp25  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp26  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp27  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2]28  diversegrasses.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]29  Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - SI.esp2A  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3]2B  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5.3]2C  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]2D  DLCHorseArmor.esp2E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.91]2F  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]30  DLCOrrery.esp31  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]32  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]33  DLCVileLair.esp34  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp++  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp35  Thieves Arsenal.esp++  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp36  DLCThievesDen.esp37  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]38  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]39  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]3A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]3B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]3C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp3D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]3F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]40  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]41  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]42  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]43  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]45  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]46  All New House.esp47  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp48  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]49  BladeSong.esp4A  BravilSeaDomes.esp4B  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.5]4C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp4D  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp4E  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp4F  GlenvarCastle.esp50  MountainShackR121.esp51  Malevolent.esp52  MountainTower.esp  [Version 6.0]53  ShadowfangKeep.esp54  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]55  TheElderCouncil.esp56  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp57  thievery.esp58  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]59  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp5A  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]5B  Windfall.esp5C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp5D  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]5E  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.30]5F  DLCfrostcrag.esp60  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp61  TOTF.esp++  TOTF Delayer.esp62  RTT.esp63  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]64  The Lost Spires.esp65  Blood&Mud.esp66  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]67  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 7.3]68  TheNecromancer.esp69  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.0.COBL]6A  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6B  FCOM_OMG.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6C  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.7]6D  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]6E  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp6F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]70  xulTheHeath.esp71  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp72  XulEntiusGorge.esp73  TheNecromancer-EntiusGorge patch.esp74  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]75  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]76  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]77  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]78  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]79  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]7A  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]7B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]7C  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]7D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]7E  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]7F  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]80  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]81  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]82  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp83  xulPantherRiver.esp84  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp85  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]86  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]87  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]88  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]89  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8A  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8B  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8C  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]8E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8F  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]90  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp91  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp92  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]93  bartholm.esp94  Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp95  MillstoneCOBL_UL_Patch.esp96  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]97  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]98  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]++  FewerOBGatesNOCLOSE.esp99  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.1]9A  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]9B  Enhanced Vegetation [110%].esp9C  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp9D  Unholy Darkness.esp9E  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]9F  MidasSpells.espA0  RshAlchemy.espA1  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]A2  StealthOverhaul.espA3  RenGuardOverhaul.espA4  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]A5  PTDoorExploitBegone.espA6  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]A7  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]A8  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]A9  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]AA  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.1]AB  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]AC  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]AD  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]AE  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]AF  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]++  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.5]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]B0  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]B1  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.espB2  BCBravilB&MFULL-Barrowfields patch.espB3  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.espB4  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland patch.espB5  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.espB6  BCCheydinhalFULLB&M-CheydinhalFalls patch.espB7  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.espB8  Better Cities - Thievery.espB9  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.espBA  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.espBB  Better Imperial City.espBC  Better Imperial City - OMG.espBD  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]BE  Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]BF  LandMagicPatch.espC0  Bashed Patch, 0.espC1  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espC2  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]

anywayy thanks for the help

» Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:53 pm

Try deleting the Oblivion.ini in My Documents/My Games/Oblivion and let the game generate a new one on startup.

BTW, is there any upside of using the standalone Harvest Containers over the merged version in OOO? I though that would cause issues as HC is merged in OOO because it also has other container features (lock bashing, traps).