Crash... : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:14 pm

Okay, so Oblivion was working fine for me, until today it now crashes in any non-city cell. So I can fast travel between cities but as soon as I try to leave the city boom crash....

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  MathFunctions.esm03  ScreenEffects.esm04  You Are Here.esm05  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]06  MD_Saddle_Master.esm07  CLS-ClassyClothes.esm08  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.69]09  TamRes.esm0A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]0B  Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm0C  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0D  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0E  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm10  Better Cities Resources.esm11  VVAdvanced.esm  [Version 1.00]12  CLS-Craftybits.esm13  A_Bloody_Mess.esm14  CM Partners.esm15  Toaster Says Share v3.esm16  Lineage II Elves.esm17  HorseCombatMaster.esm18  TRoN.esp19  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]1A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]1C  Better Cities .esp1D  TamRes.esp++  Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp1E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  All Natural - Enhanced Weather.esp  [Version 0.9.4]++  All Natural - Natural Weather.esp  [Version 0.9.4]++  All Natural - Atmospheric Weather System.esp  [Version 0.9.4]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.4]20  Immersive Interiors.esp21  AmbientTownSounds.esp22  Storms & Sound.esp23  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]24  AmbientDungeons.esp  [Version 1.2]25  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp26  CNRP FightersGuild.esp  [Version 1.0]27  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp28  Packhorses v1.esp29  Player Hunters Fame and Infamy - Normal.esp++  shiveringislesdoorusable.esp2A  Crowded Cities 30.esp2B  Terran Vampires Beta.esp  [Version 1.31]2C  Choices and Consequences.esp2D  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp2E  DLCHorseArmor.esp2F  Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp30  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp31  DMRangerArmor.esp32  Hel Borne Spear Set.esp33  Heron Mark Swords 1.0.esp34  JBladesVol2.esp35  M&BAxes.esp36  Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp37  RingwraithArmorDaedric.esp38  Shdw_Armor pack02.esp39  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]3A  Thieves Arsenal.esp3B  Shadow Steed.esp3C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]3D  VVAdvanced.esp  [Version 1.00]3E  VVAdvanced-SI.esp  [Version 1.00]3F  CB-Cobl-VVA Glue.esp40  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp41  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]42  WAC.esp43  WAC - OverSpawn.esp44  WAC - TCOS.esp45  WAC - TCOS Shops.esp  [Version 03]46  WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp47  WAC - 8th Gate.esp48  WAC - Dead Knights.esp49  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp4A  Wearable GS and DS armor for OOO.esp  [Version 0.1]4B  Suliin V1.2.esp4C  KnightlyArmory.esp4D  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.5]4E  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp4F  Barbada_Island.esp50  BladeSong.esp51  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp52  FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp53  SRGottshaw0.9 Beta.esp54  HanstHolm village.esp55  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp56  ICEXPAND.esp57  JQ-AssassinQuest-NoMarkers.esp58  KTVH - Walking In The Shoes.esp59  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp5A  bladesfactionmod.esp5B  LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp  [Version 2.5]5C  Malevolent.esp5D  Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp5E  Pinevale.esp5F  Reaper's Coldstone Town.esp60  Raiders of Cyrodil.esp61  Shezrie's Villages.esp62  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 2.6]++  All Natural - Real Lights - The Ayleid Steps Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]63  TheElderCouncil.esp64  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp65  To Feed an Empire - Wickmere Farm.esp66  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp67  Verwen Brewery.esp68  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]69  za_bankmod.esp6A  Knights.esp6B  GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp  [Version 1.02]6C  Blood&Mud.esp6D  Weye.esp6E  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp6F  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.8]70  Faregyl-FGRoad-Patch.esp71  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]72  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]73  xulTheHeath.esp74  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]75  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]76  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]77  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]78  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]79  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]7A  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]7B  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]7C  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]7D  Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]7E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]7F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]80  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]81  xulPantherRiver.esp82  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]83  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]84  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]85  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]86  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]87  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]88  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp89  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]8A  Fort Akatosh Redux.esp++  Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp8B  Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp8C  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp8D  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp8E  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.0]8F  RenCorpseMod.esp++  ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp90  vn_goldweight.esp91  X-Skills.esp92  CLS-Craftybits.esp93  CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue.esp  [Version 1.1]94  CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp95  Shadow Ranger.esp  [Version 2.9.1]96  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp97  Vim_and_Vigor_Alcohol.esp98  Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp99  MidasSpells.esp9A  No psychic guards v1.2.esp9B  RenGuardOverhaul.esp9C  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp9D  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp9E  CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp9F  RealisticLeveling.espA0  Dark Dungeons.espA1  Lineage II Elves.espA2  Elves Of Lineage II.espA3  IDKRRR_KFME4rev.espA4  DKImperials.espA5  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.espA6  CM Partners.espA7  CM Partners Special NPCs.espA8  CM Partners NPC.espA9  CM Partners More NPCs.espAA  CM Partners Marker NPCs.espAB  CM Partners Extra NPCs.espAC  A CM Partner - Sah.espAD  Companion Postal Service.espAE  1em_Vilja.espAF  GGValeria2_0.espB0  Saerileth.espB1  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]B2  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]B3  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]B4  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]B5  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]B6  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.9]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]B7  Better Cities - Full City Defences.espB8  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.espB9  BCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.espBA  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.espBB  Better Cities - Knightly Armory.espBC  Better Imperial City.espBD  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 0]BE  Get Wet v0.92.espBF  ScreenControls.espC0  StokerWolff.espC1  Viconia.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]C2  Bashed Patch, 0.espC3  realArchery_eng.espC4  Gondorian Ranger.espC5  Dominick's RealNecromancy.espC6  300_White Stallion 3.espC7  SPARTAN VI's Diverse City Guards for OOO.espC8  CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:25 am

Get a plugin conflict report from OBMM or another program and post it here (in a spoiler to avoid masses of text) then it would be a lot easier pointing out the problem. It could also be a corrupted save game.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:14 pm

I see you are using the Roberts Female v12 body.

Well while your crashes sound not exactly like what I experienced, I would humbly recommend that you check out my signature. There was a rather obscure issue with Roberts Female, maybe you are a victim of it.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:25 pm

Get a plugin conflict report from OBMM or another program and post it here (in a spoiler to avoid masses of text) then it would be a lot easier pointing out the problem. It could also be a corrupted save game.

Except that OBMM's conflict reporting is nigh on utterly useless. Conflicts generally shouldn't cause a crash anyway, since the whole system of using multiple mods is founded on them.

What I'd like to know is how you managed to install All Natural that badly. Get rid of it all, and try again.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:21 pm

Sorry for the late return, I've been out to sea

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 underdark.esm
02 MathFunctions.esm
03 ScreenEffects.esm
04 You Are Here.esm
05 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.0]
06 MD_Saddle_Master.esm
07 CLS-ClassyClothes.esm
08 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.69]
09 TamRes.esm
0A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
0B Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
0C Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0D CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
0E TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0F Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
10 Better Cities Resources.esm
11 VVAdvanced.esm [Version 1.00]
12 CLS-Craftybits.esm
13 A_Bloody_Mess.esm
14 CM Partners.esm
15 Toaster Says Share v3.esm
16 Lineage II Elves.esm
17 HorseCombatMaster.esm
18 TRoN.esp
19 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
1A DLCShiveringIsles.esp
1B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
1C Better Cities .esp
1D TamRes.esp
++ Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp
1E All Natural.esp [Version 1.0]
1F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.0]
++ All Natural - Enhanced Weather.esp [Version 0.9.4]
++ All Natural - Natural Weather.esp [Version 0.9.4]
++ All Natural - Atmospheric Weather System.esp [Version 0.9.4]
++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version 0.9.4]
20 Immersive Interiors.esp
21 AmbientTownSounds.esp
22 Storms & Sound.esp
23 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.0]
24 AmbientDungeons.esp [Version 1.2]
25 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
26 CNRP FightersGuild.esp [Version 1.0]
27 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
28 Packhorses v1.esp
29 Player Hunters Fame and Infamy - Normal.esp
++ shiveringislesdoorusable.esp
2A Crowded Cities 30.esp
2B Terran Vampires Beta.esp [Version 1.31]
2C Choices and Consequences.esp
2D C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
2E Get Wet v0.92.esp
2F ScreenControls.esp
30 DLCHorseArmor.esp
31 Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
32 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
33 DMRangerArmor.esp
34 Hel Borne Spear Set.esp
35 Heron Mark Swords 1.0.esp
36 JBladesVol2.esp
37 M&BAxes.esp
38 Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp
++ RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
39 RingwraithArmorDaedric.esp
3A Shdw_Armor pack02.esp
3B XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
3C Thieves Arsenal.esp
3D Shadow Steed.esp
3E Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
3F VVAdvanced.esp [Version 1.00]
40 VVAdvanced-SI.esp [Version 1.00]
41 CB-Cobl-VVA Glue.esp
42 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
43 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
44 WAC.esp
45 WAC - OverSpawn.esp
46 WAC - TCOS.esp
47 WAC - TCOS Shops.esp [Version 03]
48 WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp
49 WAC - 8th Gate.esp
4A WAC - Dead Knights.esp
4B C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp
4C Wearable GS and DS armor for OOO.esp [Version 0.1]
4D Suliin V1.2.esp
4E KnightlyArmory.esp
4F Ivellon.esp [Version 1.5]
50 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
51 Barbada_Island.esp
52 BladeSong.esp
53 (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp
54 FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp
55 SRGottshaw0.9 Beta.esp
56 HanstHolm village.esp
57 ICEXPAND.esp
58 JQ-AssassinQuest-NoMarkers.esp
59 KTVH - Walking In The Shoes.esp
5A 300 Feudal Empire.esp
5B Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
5C bladesfactionmod.esp
5D LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [Version 2.5]
5E Malevolent.esp
5F Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp
60 Pinevale.esp
61 Reaper's Coldstone Town.esp
62 Raiders of Cyrodil.esp
63 Shezrie's Villages.esp
64 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 2.6]
++ All Natural - Real Lights - The Ayleid Steps Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
65 TheElderCouncil.esp
66 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
67 To Feed an Empire - Wickmere Farm.esp
68 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
69 Verwen Brewery.esp
6A VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4]
6B za_bankmod.esp
6C Knights.esp
6D ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
6E GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp [Version 1.02]
6F Blood&Mud.esp
70 Weye.esp
71 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
72 Faregyl.esp [Version 1.0.8]
73 Faregyl-FGRoad-Patch.esp
74 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
75 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
76 xulTheHeath.esp
77 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
78 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
79 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
7A xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
7B xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
7C xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
7D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
7E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
7F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
80 Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
81 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
82 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
83 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
84 xulPantherRiver.esp
85 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
86 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
87 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5]
88 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
89 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
8A xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
8B xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
8C xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]
8D Fort Akatosh Redux.esp
++ Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp
8E Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp
8F JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp
90 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp
91 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.0]
92 RenCorpseMod.esp
++ ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp
93 vn_goldweight.esp
94 X-Skills.esp
95 CLS-Craftybits.esp
96 CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue.esp [Version 1.1]
97 CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp
98 Shadow Ranger.esp [Version 2.9.1]
99 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
9A Vim_and_Vigor_Alcohol.esp
9B Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp
9C MidasSpells.esp
9D No psychic guards v1.2.esp
9E RenGuardOverhaul.esp
9F CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp
A0 RealisticLeveling.esp
A1 Dark Dungeons.esp
A2 Lineage II Elves.esp
A3 Elves Of Lineage II.esp
A4 IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp
A5 DKImperials.esp
A6 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
A7 CM Partners.esp
A8 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
A9 CM Partners NPC.esp
AA CM Partners More NPCs.esp
AB CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
AC CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
AD A CM Partner - Sah.esp
AE Companion Postal Service.esp
AF 1em_Vilja.esp
B0 GGValeria2_0.esp
B1 Saerileth.esp
B2 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
B3 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
B4 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
B5 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
B6 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
B7 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.9]
++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]
B8 Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
B9 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
BA BCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp
BB BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
BC Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp
BD Better Imperial City.esp
BE Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 0]
BF StokerWolff.esp
C0 Viconia.esp
C1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
C2 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
C3 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
C4 realArchery_eng.esp
C5 Gondorian Ranger.esp
C6 Dominick's RealNecromancy.esp
C7 SPARTAN VI's Diverse City Guards for OOO.esp
C8 CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:46 pm

Cobl Races and Race Balancing Project <--- choose one but not both (I think)

check your all natural installation: v 1.0 and v 0.9.4

9D No psychic guards v1.2.esp <--- necessary with rgo?
9E RenGuardOverhaul.esp

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:03 pm

Did you save Kvatch recently?

EDIT:
Meh can't find the topic. For some people Kvatch rebuilt causes a crash when you are in the main world space any time after you've saved Kvatch completely. You can fix it by setting the first stages of Kvatch rebuilt manually with the console while being in doors. In the topic Iwas looking for I had given the console commands necessary.

There's a similar issue that some people have with Verona House Bloodlines. (after completing the first quest the game eventually starts crashing until you manually start the next quest.)

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:17 pm

Did you save Kvatch recently?

EDIT:
Meh can't find the topic. For some people Kvatch rebuilt causes a crash when you are in the main world space any time after you've saved Kvatch completely. You can fix it by setting the first stages of Kvatch rebuilt manually with the console while being in doors. In the topic Iwas looking for I had given the console commands necessary.

There's a similar issue that some people have with Verona House Bloodlines. (after completing the first quest the game eventually starts crashing until you manually start the next quest.)

Yea I did save kvatch, I just switched over to the Kvatch Rising mod, But it appears any saves made after the stone masons quest in kvatch rebuilt, only portion I did. Is liable to crash every fast travel.