Crashes when new game started

Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:33 pm

That's interesting, considering an Intel Chipset doesn't even have the required technology to run the game. I can't imagine how slow the game will run out in the Wasteland and in the DC area.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:43 am

Well I've gotten mine to work. I have a Mobile Intel? 4 Express Chipset Familly and I am currently running Fallout 3 perfectly fine on medium quality settings.

The solution was simply to install the http://fallout.gamesas.com/eng/downloads/updates.html, and then http://games.softpedia.com/progDownload/Games-for-Windows-LIVE-Download-28982.html (because the patch will not work without it) and when I started it up it re-assessed my computer and where it had come up with low settings before and then crashed after starting a new game, it now chose medium settings and started up perfectly fine although it was a tiny bit skippy in the opening cutscene, it's really not the end of the world (heh). Everything else works totally normal.

Hopefully this will help a few other people to get it working. And to all those people who said it would never work on a chipset, I can now proudly say: HA! Proved ya wrong! XD

Now I go play!

I highly doubt its too playable or stable when in the game, since it doesnt support the correct shader models.
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:31 pm

Well I've gotten mine to work. I have a Mobile Intel? 4 Express Chipset Familly and I am currently running Fallout 3 perfectly fine on medium quality settings.

The solution was simply to install the http://fallout.gamesas.com/eng/downloads/updates.html, and then http://games.softpedia.com/progDownload/Games-for-Windows-LIVE-Download-28982.html (because the patch will not work without it) and when I started it up it re-assessed my computer and where it had come up with low settings before and then crashed after starting a new game, it now chose medium settings and started up perfectly fine although it was a tiny bit skippy in the opening cutscene, it's really not the end of the world (heh). Everything else works totally normal.

Hopefully this will help a few other people to get it working. And to all those people who said it would never work on a chipset, I can now proudly say: HA! Proved ya wrong! XD

Now I go play!


i knew someone would find a patch! X-p ima try it when i have time and let you all know if it really works ^_^
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:48 pm

That's interesting, considering an Intel Chipset doesn't even have the required technology to run the game. I can't imagine how slow the game will run out in the Wasteland and in the DC area.



I highly doubt its too playable or stable when in the game, since it doesnt support the correct shader models.


Actually, I've been playing it for two and a half hours now and it's been running great. The frame rate dropped a little bit in Moriarty's Saloon for a little while, but then it went back to normal. There are definitely no problems when running around outside, it's only interiors that I have problems in (and actually, that happened to me a bit with Oblivion too). When I was looking into a solution for the problem before, I found that a few people who had got it to run on a chipset had problems with occasional crashing, but I haven't had anything of the sort. It's even been okay with alt+tabbing in and out, which sometimes can crash other games I've run on here, although not always.

If I was further in my Computer Science degree right now, maybe I'd be able to come up with an explanation as to why exactly it does work, when so many people say it shouldn't, but as it stands I just don't know enough about it. All I can tell you is that it is working and I, for one, couldn't be happier about it!

It may also be worth mentioning that I'm running Vista Home Premium with 4gb RAM, DirectX 10 and an 2.0GHz Intel Pentium Dual CPU processor. So it is a pretty decent computer, got it for Christmas a year ago. I guess for whatever reason, the chip I have is good enough to run the game.

[Update]Just found http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-014257.htm which seems to imply that my chip (the first on the list) does in fact support shaders, along with many others. Now I don't really know much about it but it seems to me as though people have been generalizing saying that chipsets don't support shaders when in fact some of them do; some through the hardware others through software. Therefore I can conclude that before buying the game, you want to look up your chip on the Intel website and find out what exactly it does and does not support. What this means is that my solution will work for certain people, but not everyone. I'm not entirely sure if a chipset relying on software for shader support will work in the same way or not.[/Update]

Anyway, I'll update this thread if I come across any other problems. ;)
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:41 am

Actually, I've been playing it for two and a half hours now and it's been running great. The frame rate dropped a little bit in Moriarty's Saloon for a little while, but then it went back to normal. There are definitely no problems when running around outside, it's only interiors that I have problems in (and actually, that happened to me a bit with Oblivion too). When I was looking into a solution for the problem before, I found that a few people who had got it to run on a chipset had problems with occasional crashing, but I haven't had anything of the sort. It's even been okay with alt+tabbing in and out, which sometimes can crash other games I've run on here, although not always.

If I was further in my Computer Science degree right now, maybe I'd be able to come up with an explanation as to why exactly it does work, when so many people say it shouldn't, but as it stands I just don't know enough about it. All I can tell you is that it is working and I, for one, couldn't be happier about it!

Anyway, I'll update this thread if I come across any other problems. ;)


this is going to sound extremly noob-ish but when i went to the patches/upgrades page, all i can get is the 1.7 is that the only one i need? or do i need to go and look for the 1.1?
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:00 pm

ok, i tried the 1.7 patch and the windows live thing... still not working... even updated my codec pack ... that didn't work either... any suggestions? i'm not giving up on this game >.<
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:13 am

It was the 1.7 that I used. Why would you need the 1.1? If you read somewhere else that you needed the 1.1, the information you read may be out-of-date and it's just that a newer version is now available. Everything that was included in the 1.1 should also be in the 1.7, or they would still have the older version available. All they've done is add to it as far as I know.
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:10 pm

ok, i tried the 1.7 patch and the windows live thing... still not working... even updated my codec pack ... that didn't work either... any suggestions? i'm not giving up on this game >.<


What are you comp specifications? What chipset do you have and does your computer otherwise meet all the system requirements to run the game? You can find them http://fallout.gamesas.com/eng/info/faq.html, just scroll down to the right part.
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:38 pm

What are you comp specifications? What chipset do you have and does your computer otherwise meet all the system requirements to run the game? You can find them http://fallout.gamesas.com/eng/info/faq.html, just scroll down to the right part.


according to the CanYouRunIt I have everything BUT the video card is out of date but it gives me this chart that contradicts its self

Video Card
Minimum: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 256MB RAM (NVIDIA 6800 or better/ATI X850 or better)
You Have: Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family

Required You Have
Video RAM 256 MB 358.0 MB
3D Yes Yes
Hardware T&L Yes Yes
Pixel Shader version 2.0 3.0
Vertex Shader version 2.0 3.0


CPU
Minimum: 2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
You Have: Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T5750 @ 2.00GHz
PASS

CPU Speed
Minimum: 2.4 GHz
You Have: 2.00 GHz Performance Rated at: 3.2 GHz
PASS

RAM
Minimum: 1GB System RAM (XP)/ 2GB System RAM (Vista)
You Have: 3.0 GB
PASS

OS
Minimum: Windows XP/Vista
You Have: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 32-bit (Build Service Pack 26002)
PASS

Sound Card
Minimum: Yes
You Have: Realtek High Definition Audio
PASS

so now all i have to ask is.... wtf??? i pass everytest... just my graphic card isn't AS fast....
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:06 pm

@Mass: Im calling BS on your claim. Prove it runs by taking a screenshot of you drawing an E out of bullet hole decals in an inner city area. As well as giving us some FPS stats your getting.

It is common knowledge that the Intel chips do not have the required tech to run Fallout, and why some people just cant accept that is beyond me.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:24 am

CanyouRunIt/Systems Requirement Lab is not a good site to use. It's often inaccurate and will often tell you you can run a game when you can't and vis-a-versa.

The fact that it says Fallout 3 needs 2.0 shaders should tell you that. The game needs 2.0B.

Also: I have to agree with Echonite here. It was only yesterday that Massalinie was posting that he could NOT run the game, yet today You're running it. The only fix I know for running Fallout 3 on an Intel involves downloading a very dubious file and then enjoying a single digit frame rate (And thats indoors)
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:20 am

@Mass: Im calling BS on your claim. Prove it runs by taking a screenshot of you drawing an E out of bullet hole decals in an inner city area.

It is common knowledge that the Intel chips do not have the required tech to run Fallout, and why some people just cant accept that is beyond me.


because some of us actually spent money on the game and refuse the fact that after only have a laptop for so long (1 year) that it's already considered an out mode? and the fact that maybe we cant afford a new graphic card (or cant find one) or laptop with a $800 graphic card with an MSRP of only 300? we have what we have, and are trying to work with it instead of emptying our wallets more then it already has.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:43 am

CanyouRunIt/Systems Requirement Lab is not a good site to use. It's often inaccurate and will often tell you you can run a game when you can't and vis-a-versa.

The fact that it says Fallout 3 needs 2.0 shaders should tell you that. The game needs 2.0B.

Also: I have to agree with Echonite here. It was only yesterday that Massalinie was posting that he could NOT run the game, yet today You're running it. The only fix I know for running Fallout 3 on an Intel involves downloading a very dubious file and then enjoying a single digit frame rate (And thats indoors)


isn't it that same thing?
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:01 am

because some of us actually spent money on the game and refuse the fact that after only have a laptop for so long (1 year) that it's already considered an out mode? and the fact that maybe we cant afford a new graphic card (or cant find one) or laptop with a $800 graphic card with an MSRP of only 300? we have what we have, and are trying to work with it instead of emptying our wallets more then it already has.

Then you obviously don't know technology. I payed $200 for an 8800GT videocard for my desktop. Now, only a year and a half later, its not even on the market any more. It struggeles a bit with Fallout but it still runs it on high-ultra. For its time, it was considered the best card put out on the market before the 200 series came out.

The fact is, computers get out dated the second they come off the factory line. Its a fact you will have to live with.

isn't it that same thing?

If it were then why would they bother to distinguish them apart?
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:04 am

Ok first off, I'm a girl not a guy so quit it with the 'he'.

@Mass: Im calling BS on your claim. Prove it runs by taking a screenshot of you drawing an E out of bullet hole decals in an inner city area. As well as giving us some FPS stats your getting.

It is common knowledge that the Intel chips do not have the required tech to run Fallout, and why some people just cant accept that is beyond me.


See the Intel website in my previous post. If you can tell me that the information there does not mean what I think it does, then fine beause as I said I really don't know that much about graphics cards or how they work. Also, since you've decided to be immature about it, I'll do the E thing in a minute. I'm getting a little lazy around the FPS thing though because it's late and I'm too tired to install fraps on here or figure out some other way to get that info. I might do that tomorrow night.

Also: I have to agree with Echonite here. It was only yesterday that Massalinie was posting that he could NOT run the game, yet today You're running it. The only fix I know for running Fallout 3 on an Intel involves downloading a very dubious file and then enjoying a single digit frame rate (And thats indoors)


Yup, yesterday I couldn't run the game on the laptop. I tried a lot of stuff and searched a lot of stuff because I had started playing it on my boyfriend's computer and fell in love with it. So got the game and tried to install it on my laptop so that I could play it at his house and he could still play too (we were fighting over turns at it :P ). I gave up yesterday on doing it because I had class this morning and couldn't stay up all night working on it. Today I got a fresh start at it and got it working.

Now your post reminded me, there was something else I did. Yesterday the last thing I did was install the patch and then I got the "The ordinal 5360 could not be located in dynamic link library" error. But before getting the windows thing, I actually found another suggestion about this d3d9.dll file which I downloaded and put in my file also. Then, having given up on it, I kind of forgot. :P That might be why it's working. I forget where I downloaded the file from (I clear all my private data every time I close Firefox), but it seems to be available all over the place.

@RidgeRacer: Try that ^ and let me know if it works. If it does, I'll fix my original post.
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How was I to know you were a girl?

And finally, the d3d9.dll is a file associated with DirectX 9 and messing with it could render your computer useless to anything short of a total system formatting. If it does make it work, then you will probably get nothing over 20FPS with no eye candy at all. (Everything as low, if not lower, then the game can make them) So think twice about downloading that file if you find it.
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:37 pm

@RidgeRacer: Try that ^ and let me know if it works. If it does, I'll fix my original post.

dont sweat it, i tried running the game with a clean boot disabiling everything BUT my current ISO and it still wouldn't work. I know what my problem is. I even went as far as to download someone elses saved game starting to where your about to leave vault 101 for the first time so you have a chance to change everything before you go out into the wasteland, but with a few mods (not god mode) X-p. I did this because i thought it was a NEW GAME issue, but it's not. It;s my ISO... i either need a better one then MagicISO or just need to burn the Data onto a disk downgraded and see if it'll run from there. Thanks though ^_^
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:05 pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/massalinie/Fallout32010-01-0903-46-36-69-1.jpg?t=1263031550

Satisfied? Secondly, you weren't to know and I'm used to it :P just letting you know.

Now stop being such a drama queen. The file goes in the Fallout3 folder and it's not in any position to be 'rendering your computer useless'. Furthermore, I'm not running it on a laptop so that it can be amazingly pretty. I could care less about the graphics. I just want to play the game, man! Lastly, read the whole thread before posting, dude. It chooses the medium settings for quality for some reason. I'm not saying that fantastic or anything, but it's not low. And you're still ignoring my Intel link. :)
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dont sweat it, i tried running the game with a clean boot disabiling everything BUT my current ISO and it still wouldn't work. I know what my problem is. I even went as far as to download someone elses saved game starting to where your about to leave vault 101 for the first time so you have a chance to change everything before you go out into the wasteland, but with a few mods (not god mode) X-p. I did this because i thought it was a NEW GAME issue, but it's not. It;s my ISO... i either need a better one then MagicISO or just need to burn the Data onto a disk downgraded and see if it'll run from there. Thanks though ^_^

Stop right there. What do you mean ISO?

Choose your next words wisely.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:48 am

Stop right there. What do you mean ISO?

Choose your next words wisely.

it means nothing =-p
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:40 pm

Theoretically he could have ripped the ISO himself off of a disc he owned. :P
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:57 am

it means nothing =-p

Then we are done here. One can only assume you illegally obtained Fallout, as such we do not help pirates here. Your problems are now your own.

@Mass: yes, but his dodging the question says otherwise.
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Post » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:10 pm

just need to burn the Data onto a disk downgraded and see if it'll run from there.



Theoretically he could have ripped the ISO himself off of a disc he owned. :P


If he had the disk, why would he did to burn it to another disc? And we can always get a mod to ask him for clarification.

But yes, no help for pirates here. Especially as these are the official Bethesda forums as well :facepalm:
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I was just being hypothetical and silly, obviously he downloaded it. Yeeaaahh... it's kind of a stupid place to declare that you've illegally obtained the game. :P

Anyhoo enough playing around for tonight, I'm off to bed. Ciao
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Then we are done here. One can only assume you illegally obtained Fallout, as such we do not help pirates here. Your problems are now your own.

@Mass: yes, but his dodging the question says otherwise.


hold on there caption ahab. LMFAO
It is my right to do as i please with my CD as long as i dont distribute or sell without the consent of gamesas. Plus it is none of your business if i paid for the disk or not, just as much as it is my business to know if YOU legally paid for it or not. Seeing how much you know about "technology" you know just as much as I do how easy it is to grab these games off or online w/o a price tag. So knowing that how do we know you didn't pay for yours? you can claim that your are faithful just as much as i can, but again... words are cheap. So before you chastise me on accusations that MAY or MAY NOT be true, lets look at the big picture... hundreds of leechers.... thousands of seeders... it's almost impossible to say that there isn't someone on this forum that is also looking for answers as I... and as a master to a web forum.... dont you fell that one persons problem.... are also yours?
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