Crashing after playing a while : IV

» Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:09 pm

After making some progress in the game, it starts to crash as soon as I try fast travel anywhere. I notice this happens as soon as I'm done with the Kvatch quests (gate and castle). I tried this with two different saves from the start. One where I went to Weynon Priory first and got Martin, and another without. Both give the same result. I even tried editing my INI file to tell it to stop using background loading, use harddrive cache, more memory etc, none of that worked. I can't think of any mod that would cause these crashes after a certain time. So here is my mod list. If anyone can help resolve this issue, I would much appreciate it.

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.4.4]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm0C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0D  BetterMusicSystem.esm0E  BathingMod_Base.esm0F  CM Partners.esm10  HorseCombatMaster.esm11  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]12  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.5]13  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]16  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]17  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]18  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1B  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1C  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.4.4]++  EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp  [Version Final]1D  Enhanced Weather - Across-The-Borders Mods Patch.esp  [Version Final]1E  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp1F  ChaseCameraMod.esp20  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp21  Chapel Tithe.esp++  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp22  Inebriation.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]23  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp24  LCD MDMix.esp25  MM_TextLocks.esp26  P1DmenuEscape.esp27  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]28  P1DseeYouSleep.esp29  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp++  shiveringislesdoorusable.esp2A  SoT_Holiday.esp2B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3.1]2C  StandingJOJO.esp2D  FF_Real_Thirst.esp2E  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]2F  Improved Hotkeys.esp  [Version 1.1]30  DLCHorseArmor.esp31  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]32  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]33  DLCOrrery.esp34  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]35  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]36  DLCVileLair.esp37  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]38  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp39  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp3A  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3B  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]3C  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  CM_Better Wine.esp3D  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp3E  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp3F  Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp40  Underworld Armor.esp41  Thieves Arsenal.esp42  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp43  DFSLoutfits.esp44  DLCThievesDen.esp45  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]46  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]47  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]48  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp49  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp4A  Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp++  Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp4B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp4C  Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp4D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]4E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4F  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp50  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp51  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]53  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]54  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]55  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]56  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]57  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]58  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]59  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]5A  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5B  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5D  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5E  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]60  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]61  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]62  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]63  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]64  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]65  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]66  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]67  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]68  AL_Maverick.esp69  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]6A  BladeSong.esp6B  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]6C  Hentai Mania.esp++  FCOM_Hentai Mania.esp  [Version 0.8]6D  HentaiMania2.esp++  HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp6E  300_White Stallion 4.esp6F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp70  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp71  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp72  GlenvarCastle.esp73  StopDarkBrotherhood.esp74  eyja.esp75  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]76  za_bankmod.esp77  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp78  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]79  BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp7A  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.30]7B  DLCfrostcrag.esp7C  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]7D  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]7E  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp7F  Knights.esp80  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]81  Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 2.0]82  The Lost Spires.esp83  Mighty Umbra.esp84  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp85  HoarfrostCastle.esp86  MannimarcoRevisited.esp87  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]88  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]89  ElsweyrAnequina.esp8A  BetterMusicSystem(Elsweyr).esp  [Version 1.1]8B  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.2]8C  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp8D  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]8E  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp8F  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]90  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp91  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]92  bondage_six.esp93  Eroblivion.esp94  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp95  Skip Tutorial.esp96  BathingMod_Soap.esp97  BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp98  BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp99  OWE&P.esp9A  RealisticFatigue.esp9B  NoHealingDuringWait.esp9C  RealisticHealth.esp9D  RealisticForceMedium.esp9E  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.4.2]9F  Unholy Darkness.espA0  always protection.espA1  BasicInstinct.espA2  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]A3  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.espA4  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]A5  MidasSpells.espA6  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.espA7  StealthOverhaul.espA8  RenGuardOverhaul.espA9  Masks Revised.espAA  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espAB  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]AC  RealisticLeveling.esp++  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]AD  CTAddPose_v_1.espAE  CTAddPose_ bondage_six.esp++  SW01.espAF  actors_in_charge.espB0  77_Umpa_Animation.espB1  EFGAddPose.espB2  shinyEmotions.espB3  Slof's sixy Anims.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]B4  IDKRRR_C_race.espB5  Chocolate Elves.espB6  soyaenbp.espB7  CM Partners.espB8  CM Partners NPC NE.espB9  CM Partners More NPCs NE.espBA  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]BB  companion_chocolate.espBC  Sonia.espBD  Get Wet.espBE  ScreenControls.espBF  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]C0  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]C1  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]C2  Viconia.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]C3  Bashed Patch, 0.espC4  SWalk.espC5  Alice.espC6  Streamline 3.1.esp

I used BOSS to sort out the mods and I'm also using some OBSE plugins like stutter remover and weOCPS.

» Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:48 am

Are you using some version of Pluggy for ScreenEffects?

Try unloading Kvatch Rebuilt, until you get martin out of there. (shot in the dark)

» Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:41 am

Well what do you know? The crashes stopped after I disabled Kvatch Rebuilt. Did I install it wrong? Or is there a bash setting I forgot to do? I have the ESM, ESP, OOO compatibility patch, FCOM leveled-guards patch, and the weather patch for Enhanced Weather.

I don't have Pluggy. I installed ScreenEffects because BladeSong requires it. But I even tried disabling only ScreenEffects, and it was still crashing, so It would seem Kvatch rebuilt is the culprit. Any suggestions on how to fix that?

» Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:42 pm

None at all. Just something I have seen on occasion. From what I understand, once you have Martin out of Kvatch, you can re-enable the mod, and it should be ok. I think.

» Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:05 pm

I went ahead and did a clean save of Kvatch Rebuilt. In the process I removed the "import AI packages" of KR from the Bashed Patch. The fast travel crashes seemed to have stopped. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for the assist HeyYou.

» Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:24 am

Hhhhmmm..... That's interesting. I had trouble with Glarthir, in skingrad.... basically the same thing, get to a certain point in the quest, and, couldn't go to skingrad without getting a crash. Removing OOO from "import AI packages" in the bashed patch seems to have fixed it for me as well. Wonder if there is something with wrye that has a problem with that function???

Glad ya got it sorted.