Keep in mind, this is mostly fanwank, and probably easily disproven, but I'm posting it simply because I think it'd be a great plot device.

Okay, so the Dwemer disappeared when they tried to harness the power of the Heart of Lorkhan, right? Well what if the power of the Heart somehow made them transcend the physical world and become immortal gods?

So when Dagoth Ur was tasked by Nerevar to guard the Heart while he went to summon Azura, Dagoth Ur experimented with it and discovered the truth of the Dwemer disappearance, and wanted to bring the Chimer to the same level. However, by that time, Nerevar had already been murdered by Vivec, Almalexia, and Sotha Sil, and they soon did the same to Dagoth Ur, but not before he could sap some of the Heart's power to make himself immortal. Those three went on to use the power of the Heart to make themselves immortal gods, and established the Tribunal. As punishment for their evils, Azura curses the Chimer to become the Dunmer, and prophesies the coming of the Nerevarine.

Cut to the Nerevarine's time, and the vulgar actions of the Tribunal on the Heart have corrupted its power; now the transcendence requires the subjects to first suffer from Corprus disease, and it must be spread through the Blight. Dagoth Ur still believes that only the Dunmer deserve to transcend, so he builds the brass god Akulakhan in order to drive the foreigners out and spread the Blight to only the Dunmer.

I don't think the Dwemer became gods; Vivec says he has "...no sense of them in the timeless divine world outside of mortal time". Admittedly this is Vivec we're talking about.

I like Don Zabu's theory.

I remember reading over the books back in the day, coming to the conclusion that maybe the Dwemer transported back in time and became men. It may seem stupid to some, but reading the texts in MW is like looking at a cloud, eventually your brain starts forcing things together to make a picture.

Has there been any theories as to the disappearance of the Dwemer and the coming of the blight? I put a search for 'blight" in the lore forums but did,t get back much.

Close, but they're the skin of their giant stompy robot, the Numidium, which they were planning to use as a vessel of going back to "the first stroke of Padomay." If it had worked, they would have been divine again, but it didn't. Now they're stuck on a giant stompy robot that is now bits and shards, due to what happened in Daggerfall when 7 Numidiums appeared at once (even though there is only 1, such is but a small extent of its time warping power)

Considering how Vivec would want to keep the truth from the Nerevarine, this ties into it perfectly.

I think they might be in Oblivion somewhere, just on an undiscovered plane(t).

I always liked to believe the went back in time to found their own civilization. They seem so out of place compared to the other mer, and their civilization seemed to have existed long before one founded by Aldmer should have. Its totally baseless, so don't take it to heart.

I actually have a few undeveloped ideas on this, not quite in a presentable form yet though... I've recently began to question my own article on the disappearance, not the end result, but the reasoning behind the endeavor as a whole...

I'd love to hear any speculation you currently have on said motivation.

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Then they would be forever trapped in their own closed time loop. Not quite destroyed but for all means still lost forever.

I don't really have any ssue with the commonly-presented reasoning, I just find these very bizarre facts about the race to point to something more then what is presented, even if it s not time travel (though time travel sounds very cool).

Either way, I think that stating what and why about the Dwemer at this point is just not correct, we still can't be sure.



Sounds like a good story doesn't it? The ultimate punishment for defying the gods: neverending failure.

Thinking about it, yes. It would be an ultimate and cruelly ironic punishment.

How about the Dwemer became... us!

That is why our reality stands in relation to Nirn in the way it does, as to a work of fiction.

Not probable but, man, wouldn't it be pretty cool? Also it would be a way to explain why Nirn and Earth are so similar. This world as a leftover of the powers that the dwemer played it and resembling their former one.

We would just have to explain how mer became men.

They were torn asunder from their divine line of heritage, until they were no more mer then men?
Or they walked like them until they walked like them?

They obviously died from smoking.

That's mantling, which they didn't do

I was just thinking that the Dwemer wanted to ascend not just to another gradient of Aurbis but to completely transcend the whole of creation. And Vivec says the Dwemer are literally gone, there is nothing of them as if they had never existed.

Maybe they went to (or brought into being) our world. Somewhere so far beyond that the Aurbis is just a work of fiction viewed from here.

Or maybe they went even further than that... maybe the Dwemer can 'mod' our world with a 'construction set' while we play with Nirn.


I like this idea as an antidote to the 'Azura and the Daedra are so powerful and the Dwemer were punished for being upity' thing.

Or maybe, like Xal once said, the Dwemer created it for the use of others to transcend mundus.

Perhaps they didn't belong in a world of selfishness...

I know... it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

You change God within Chaos quite often dont you?

I'm very torn between Khorne and Nurgle, but it's not that bad. They aren't that antagonistic of each other (compared to the other remaining 2). The other two can stick their head(s) in the mud and flat their arms around.

I never bought the idea that they're the skin of anyone. In fact, if you were to ask me, I'd say that they took the way of Yokuda.

Also, Dwemer ghosts account for some sort of metaphysical remnants.

Mayhap only their bodies became the skin of Numidium, while their souls either went into the Dreamsleave, or stayed on Nirn as spirits.


Sigmar's cooler. As is Ulric.

That would make no sense and have absolutely zero impact on things.

Except that Xal says that "[Kagrenac] would not have sacrificed so many of their golden souls to create Anumidum's metal body..." Plus there is evidence of their bodies turning to ash.