Creating an .ESP : V

» Sat May 19, 2012 8:04 pm

I have recently seen a few house mods floating around, and they all contain .esp files which you place in the data directory. if I wanted to put the house I edited (with the console) on the Nexus, how do I save it as an .esp?

» Sun May 20, 2012 2:53 am

You can't. ESP files right now are created rather primitively (and complex) by programs such as SkyrimEdit. You'll have to either use that to create an ESP (which making a house in is pretty much impossible), or use the Creation Kit once it's released later in the month to create an ESP plugin file.

» Sat May 19, 2012 8:55 pm

You can't. ESP files right now are created rather primitively (and complex) by programs such as SkyrimEdit. You'll have to either use that to create an ESP (which making a house in is pretty much impossible), or use the Creation Kit once it's released later in the month to create an ESP plugin file.

Thin how did http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5454 <- this guy do it?? His file comes as .ESP

» Sun May 20, 2012 7:44 am

Thin how did http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5454 <- this guy do it?? His file comes as .ESP

Through some clever SkyrimEdit...err...edits, I'd imagine. Must have taken a hell of a lot of time. There's no Creation Kit which makes the thing a whole lot easier, that's why there's so few house mods and literally no quest or landmass mods at the moment.

» Sun May 20, 2012 1:52 am

Through some clever SkyrimEdit...err...edits, I'd imagine. Must have taken a hell of a lot of time. There's no Creation Kit which makes the thing a whole lot easier, that's why there's so few house mods and literally no quest or landmass mods at the moment.

As a long time modder, its kind of obvious theres no creation kit. But do you have any idea what program hes using?

» Sun May 20, 2012 6:18 am

As a long time modder, its kind of obvious theres no creation kit. But do you have any idea what program hes using?

Like mentioned, probably SkyrimEdit or similar.

» Sun May 20, 2012 4:48 am

Like mentioned, probably SkyrimEdit or similar.

ok, thanks man! Sorry for being so rude.

» Sat May 19, 2012 8:45 pm

ok, thanks man! Sorry for being so rude.

Not a problem

» Sat May 19, 2012 6:24 pm

You can try TESVSnip too.

» Sun May 20, 2012 2:23 am

You can try TESVSnip too.

It sais TESVSnip is for viewing .ESP files, can it also create them?

» Sun May 20, 2012 6:16 am

It sais TESVSnip is for viewing .ESP files, can it also create them?

Yes.

» Sat May 19, 2012 10:16 pm

It sais TESVSnip is for viewing .ESP files, can it also create them?

Programs that I know of that can create or edit .esp files for Skyrim:
TESSnip (found with Fallout Mod Manager)
FO3Edit (can only do limited changes with this)
SkyEdit
TESVSnip (had some bugs in it, might've been fixed, not sure)

» Sun May 20, 2012 4:15 am

TESSnip/TESVSnip is lower-level than SkyEdit. I suggest you only use it for things that SkyEdit doesn't do yet, and for examining the exact structure/content of some specific esp file. What you can create in SkyEdit is much easier to do that way, because its interface is based more around the modding you're doing and less around the file you're doing it to.

» Sat May 19, 2012 8:44 pm

TESSnip/TESVSnip is lower-level than SkyEdit. I suggest you only use it for things that SkyEdit doesn't do yet, and for examining the exact structure/content of some specific esp file. What you can create in SkyEdit is much easier to do that way, because its interface is based more around the modding you're doing and less around the file you're doing it to.

Thin how do I take my edited house, and put it into an .esp???

» Sun May 20, 2012 5:34 am

The best thing is to just wait for the CK, it should be only a few weeks away at most. That will make creating houses and everything else a whole lot easier and quicker.

» Sun May 20, 2012 6:17 am

Just saying that you'll be wasting your time (unless you don't know what to do with it) if you want to make something like a house mod. The CK will be out in January, so that's 3 weeks from now at most, probably less. You can do something 10x as detailed as the mod you linked to in a few minutes with the CK. No point wasting lots of hours to place a few statics and items in an otherwise empty room if you can do the same, only better, with the CK in a few minutes. Imo.

» Sun May 20, 2012 7:38 am

Just saying that you'll be wasting your time (unless you don't know what to do with it) if you want to make something like a house mod. The CK will be out in January, so that's 3 weeks from now at most, probably less. You can do something 10x as detailed as the mod you linked to in a few minutes with the CK. No point wasting lots of hours to place a few statics and items in an otherwise empty room if you can do the same, only better, with the CK in a few minutes. Imo.

The best thing is to just wait for the CK, it should be only a few weeks away at most. That will make creating houses and everything else a whole lot easier and quicker.

Guys, dont sit here and explain to me what iv known since 2002, I never said anything about the CK, I just want to put my house mod up now, and was wondering how to get it into a .ESP?

» Sun May 20, 2012 5:58 am

Guys, dont sit here and explain to me what iv known since 2002, I never said anything about the CK, I just want to put my house mod up now, and was wondering how to get it into a .ESP?

There's no way to export it from a save file to an esp. The best I can think use getpos on every single item and use that in a bat file to use placeatme and getpos to automate recreation. :shrug:

Have you tried looking in his mod in TESVsnip to get an idea of how he did it? You might be able to recreate it there.

» Sat May 19, 2012 5:31 pm

Guys, dont sit here and explain to me what iv known since 2002, I never said anything about the CK, I just want to put my house mod up now, and was wondering how to get it into a .ESP?

Since you apparently don't know much about modding (which is absolutely no problem, it's cool that you want to mod) it was just a friendly pointer, no need to get upset.

» Sat May 19, 2012 10:04 pm

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3787 used the Fallout 3 construction set and did some manual editing afterwards to make it work in Skyrim. Not sure if that's a common practice, but at least it's one way.

» Sat May 19, 2012 5:52 pm

Since you apparently don't know much about modding (which is absolutely no problem, it's cool that you want to mod) it was just a friendly pointer, no need to get upset.

Yea I dont know anything about modding, Check out my mod mate! (and my website)

http://skyrimretexture.webs.com/

» Sun May 20, 2012 2:30 am

^We are not a community of lone rangers so a modicum of humility, a little respect and a neutral attitude go a long way when interacting with others on these boards.

I don't see why object placement would be any different so forcing the GECK to load Skyrim.esm and then ripping the world references from the resulting esp and splicing them into another esp is certainly feasible. Being worth the effort is an entirely different matter though. I'm waiting for the CK to avoid any such unnecessary head banging tediousness with less than optimal results.

» Sun May 20, 2012 4:36 am

Guys, dont sit here and explain to me what iv known since 2002, I never said anything about the CK, I just want to put my house mod up now, and was wondering how to get it into a .ESP?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes5Mod:SkyEdit/Getting_Started

A little searching would have helped.

» Sun May 20, 2012 7:33 am

Yea I dont know anything about modding, Check out my mod mate! (and my website)

http://skyrimretexture.webs.com/

Texturing and modding are different things. You say you've been modding since 2002 but keep asking the same "how do I get it into an ESP" question over and over. Just wait until the CK.