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I currently have it loading and firing in game, I just need to find the correct script/effect. Currently, I am using a projectile with a small explosion, that applies and object effect that uses my base effect. Hope that made sense!

The Base Effect Uses this script

Begin ScriptEffectStart         unlockEND

Simplistic for now so I can test it out, I will add restrictions later. The issue is, this doesn't work. So, any ideas on how I could make custom ammo unlock a door on impact?

I guess its a targeting issue. When you fire the gun, it does not have a target for unlocking. I have not really looked into weapons, but perhaps you need to make it like a missile? On impact, fire that script that unlocks everything in a certain radius.

That's what I need! What script is that?
I agree, I think it is a target issue

Would OnHit work for the begin command?

Gaaaaaaah that is not what OnHit does. People have been making this mistake since Oblivion. OhHit runs when the thing it is on is hit.

heh maybe they should have renamed it to OnBeingHit to make it clearer

Lol that is a little tricky naming. But, does anyone know the block/function I'm looking for?
I'm pretty sure NVSE would allow me to just get the reference, but to my knowledge I can't do that vanilla, and don't want to wait . Plus, I love expanding my Geck knowledge, it actually helps me in my CS classes

There isn't a function. ObjectUnderReticule or GetCombatTarget might find what the player's looking at, and you could track when the player's count of breaching rounds drops to know when he's fired one?

Well, GetCombatTarget is for actors, and ObjectUnderReticule returns the ObjectID right?
I either need something that will return the door's ref id, or something that will flat out unlock anything.

At least one modder bangs his head on the desk every time it happens.

Now, there IS a spot for an impact script. Maybe that helps somehow other than avoiding the whole explosion part

Can you log the reference to a particular lock when a player activates it? If so, make the player try a lock first before shooting it and use the last logged lock reference as the one that is opened.

That I could do, and probably will end up doing for the time before NVSE arrives, but I'm hoping for a cleaner, load ammo, shoot, unlock functionality.
Great suggestion though!

What I don't understand is, why is a plain old unlock script not running on impact?

Probably because a door/lock is not a valid target for a weapon. Those scripts probably only run on NPCs, creatures and possibly some types of activators.

No point in running an impact script on any bullets that miss their target and hit a wall.....waste of resources as far as the developers are concerned.

So, effects aren't designed for use against static objects?

And does the same impact rule apply to an effect applied through an explosion?

I feel like this was done in oblivion via the use of first activating the lock with a weapon drawn. This then applied a shader effect letting the player know they had indeed targeting the correct lock (door chest etc had a reddish tint). Any attack made by the player made the script calculate out a score which was weighted with both strength, luck and a random number. This was then compared to the lock level. A critical fail resulted in a possibility of the contents being destroyed, normal fail did nothing, or success. Such a method of approaching the problem isn't the most clean but it worked very well.

Edit: I believe the way they detected if the lock was the thing being attacked was by spawning a dummy actor on the lock which had an onhit block. I'll try to do some research this week after midterms go away.

Okay, I have an idea, just don't know how to implement it.
So, when the player fires a breaching round (he'd have to be in close proximity to the lock) an invisible object is dropped with a script attached. This script will unlock anything within a small radius, and only runs once. Now, how can I unlock anything in a certain radius?

The only way I can think of doing that is adding a script to the objects themselves which is called whenever the pc is within a set distance and attacks. Adding such a script to such an ubiquitous object as a door or safe however results in a lot lot lot of incompatibility (which is why although this is what was originally done for oblivion lock bashing it was later replaced by dummy actors or an OBSE method).

Yeah, I think its better I just wait for NVSE

Hmmm...

Fake explosion on impact. Projectile links to an Explosion, Explosion places a Placed Impact Object with a Begin OnTriggerEnter script block. That's how you can apply the scripts.

From there, I'm not sure... is there a way to check to see if the object is a door? Might want to have a distance check on the Player so they have to be really up close to the door to breach.

The method above is how the Tesla explosion in FO3 Broken Steel detects targets to arc to, or whether or not the thing it hit is a Vertibird and should blow it up.

Also, this should be put into the GECK help forum.

You can use a GetLocked. If it's anything besides a safe or door that is locked it will return a 0. Seems like it ought to work pretty well..
Edit: So custom ammo types can have explosions attached to them? That makes them very useful as script activators.

Custom ammo types can have alternative projectiles, which in turn can have explosions attached to them, which in turn can drop anything as a "placed impact object".

EDIT: An even better candidate than GetLocked, http://geck.gamesas.com/index.php/GetLockLevel. Presumably still in the FONV vanilla script function palette.

Dunno if it's any help but some mods in Oblivion (I think OOO) use something similar... grah, forget the name, but basically it let you whack locked objects into unlocking them. A breaching shotgun round would be pretty cool, however I think if you're going to make it usable on containers (instead of just doors) there should be a chance you accidently destroy everything in said container when you blast a round into it.

Well obviously get lock level would be used to calculate the chance of the door actually opening, but I was just saying in order to see if the script even runs at all, simply checking if the object is locked will inform you whether its a valid target.