Anybody else think that The Elder Scrolls games can really stand to improve upon the amount and different variety of creature/monsters they have? I definitely wish there was more creatures, mostly fantasy creatures with a few real life creatures or variations of real life creature anyways.

I'm sorry but Imp, Troll, Ogre, Minotaur, Minotaur Lord, Spriggan, Willow-o-wisp, and Land Dreugh is just not enough.

Sure they had Mud Crabs, Slaughterfish, Bear, Cougar, Boar, and Wolves as well as humanoid Goblins and Zombies, Ghost, Wraith, Undead Skeletons, and Lich. But I wish they had more variety when it comes to actual Monsters.

I'm going to list some creatures ideas with descriptions of them let me know what you guys think. If they are creative or dull? Would you like them to add or not to add. And before you say it, Yes I know the game is well too far along to add these in and they are not taking suggestions so this is just for fun and discussion amongst us fans. But we can still have our fun can't we?

I'm going to put the bulk of info in spoiler tags so it's not so cluttered, click for description and info.

Unnamed Rock Creature

Muskox or Yak-like Animal

(^ My favorite suggestion and I hope something like this does make it in the game, already thought of from Bethesda.)

Caribou-esque deer creatures

Yeti-like creature

Doppelgangers

Hobgoblins

Woolly Mammoth-like creatures

Witches

Treant/Leshy -like creature

Centaurs

Hydra

Beholder

Zaratan

What about some of our favorites from Morrowind?

For sure bring back the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Beasts _{(half man/octopus sea monsters.)} They are different from Oblivion's Land Dreugh who are half crab but you could bring them back as well but make them more artic suited like a king crab with spikey legs and stuff.

Other MW Bloodmoon creatures that would be cool do see return;

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Undead
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Creatures
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Creatures
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Creatures
and the Snow Goblin http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Creatures
Giants _{(Different Variations of them too especially Frost Giants like http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Creatures from MW)}.


I didn't mention Lycanthrope! (Werewolf/Werebear) because I'm fairly certain they'll be included and that makes me so very happy!


Thoughts, Opinions, other Suggestions/Ideas?

I voted all creatures bliviongate: :intergalactic:

yeah, I can't even see an upper limit to the variety of creatures being a bad thing, within reason. Moar creeturz nao pweez.

Imagine if there were 100+ different creatures. Sounds good to me.

Rather than adding a large number of monster types, I would rather they focus on making it a different experience to fight different kinds of monsters. In most cases, you could replace the graphics of all the monsters in Oblivion with floating cubes and it wouldn't produce a tactical disadvantage, because you approach every kind of enemy the same way.

:tops:

I would rather have them put more effort in to different factions to make them be something more then just people in different outfits and objectives.

what i would like to see

animals: mammoths, saber tooth tigers, penguins, walruses, sea lions, whales, snow bears, snow cubs, snow wolves, snow puppies, and horkers

monsters: grahls, dreughs, frost giants, and udyrfrykte

goblins: rieklings, riekling skirmishers, riekling berserkers, riekling shamans, and riekling warlords

undead: their all okay

daedra: daedra from hircines realm

I think you could've just listed the actual creature list of the game, just switch trolls for the udyrfrykte.

I still think my stone creature thing i described would be one of the best creatures in a game. Especially if they could manage to have them take shape from seemingly inanimate stones.

Plus I like the woolly look of Muskox/yaks and think that would be a better animal then deer or boar for the cold climate of skyrim.

I want the Each Uisge, a lake monster from Scottish mythology, also the Noken.

stone golem ftm.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ss_gallery/49123.jpg

I came across some more info that might indicate that we'll get to face a witch or two in Skyrim, added it to the witch spoiler section.

OMG! i love you... :hugs:

You don't know how long I looked for that last night when making this thread. I remember reading the story about it but I could not for the life of me find it after searching for hours for "nordic lake monster"

Thank you for posting it.

That's one I would really like to see a special quest for. Have it be the only one but have it have it's own quest in the game. Again Thank You!

As many different possibilities as the worlds limit in map size can give us. There should also be a different kind of creature to each creature type that exists: Like small/normal/large/deseased/hybrid.

They should also move in packs, especially the ones that are easily killed. I do understand if a lone hybrid between a timber wolf and a bear moves alone, but not why normal wolves move alone. There should be packs of wolves where there is one alfa male who leads the pack and only attacks if really hungry or disturbed. Maybe 8 wolves or so?

Your welcome.

I'm absolutely okay with any creatures Bethesda wishes to incorporate as long as they are detailed and well modeled and well suited for the climate and environment. if in snowy areas, give them fur. If primarily cave dwellers, then omit the fur and perhaps use slime or scales or leathery type skin.

For forests, I'd expect some boarish type creature - but perhaps a bit more muscular and tougher skinned. hares, partridges or grouse, squirrel type creatures. A few foxes and definitely some wolves. Hopefully flight will be making its introduction in the Elder Scrolls too so we could see pheasants, owls, eagles, hawks, geese, ducks, etc.

Where there's snow and ice there's water, so fish and other aquatic life needs to be present too: fish of various types. A few bottom dwellers, active predator types such as walleye, pike, trout, etc. And please bring back spears for spearfishing or give us poles to sit by and cast a line, etc.

For monsters, well, definitely some pretty good possibilities here starting with minotaurs again but reworked and scarier. Shadow type entities that haunt the player, ogrish creatures, some goblins but thicker or tougher or just more well armored, lynx type creatures or more mountain lions,

I on't know. I just hope that whatever they introduce that they're realistic and believable - like what one might fear or wish to see in real life.

I don't want any Giant Spiders like there was in Daggerfall.

I think something big the thread creator missed is the Giant/Troll. I don't know whether you did this because it was a given or if you didn't see room for Norse Mythology... with the Nords, with your great menagerie of suggested creatures. In-game, we're told of Frost Giants/Trolls (I forget which, exactly), great, horrendous beasts, that have long been enemies of the Nords, and the monsters upon which Dragon Slaying heroes like ourselves should test our mettle.

In Norse mythology, the J?tunn cover a wide range of creatures from man-like, magical beings, to great, destructive giants (could be just a few feet taller), and trolls, magical, wyrd-bending forest-folk. In the pagan history of the Norse, it is the death of the father of giants, killed by the Gods, that creates the foundation for the world, so giants could in turn be integral to Nord and Atmoran mythology. Following that, the Giants are used to explain many natural occurences that wreak havoc upon humanity, from floods to trappers going missing in the forests. These damnable giants also have a decidedly video-game-y range in that they can be Fire Giants, Ice Giants, Sea Giants, etc.

In the mythology, Ice Giants live in the mountains (and Nifleheim), Sea Giants in the oceans, and others in their own regions, though they are said to come from the 'world' of Jotunheimr (seperated from the human 'world' of midgard by great forests and mountains). The Fire Giants are unique in that they come from their own plane: The Muspelheim, and are led by their dread leader, Surtr "The Black One." At the end of times, Ragnarok, it is the fire giants that come forth to engulf the world in flame, and Surtr himself that kills one of the most important Norse gods, Freyr.

Now, enough with the history. You wonder, how could these be implemented?

The Frost Giants, Sea Giants, Giant Giants, etc, could be large enemies our hero faces on an irregular basis (likely the normals and the icey ones most), up in mountains, in the depths of forests, in ocean-involving quest lines. They could even be the targets of quests and the bosses of dungeons. And having long had enmity for the Nords, they could be taking advantage of the speculated civil war that's going on. As enemies, I think they'd be human in look and shape (though a few could be unique with claws, horns, etc. as a few of the giants are said to possess in Norse mythology) and be a few feet taller than the player.

The Fire Giants, however, appear similar to atronarchs to me. Though shaped like men, they spread flame and fire wherever they go, and their lord, Surtr, carries a flaming sword with which he kills Gods. However, the current, feminine, flame atronarchs would not suit this role. I'm unsure what they'd do, if they even add them (for their role is small until Ragnorak) but they would be great to fight. Perhaps with the return of the Dragons and/or Akavir they are the servants of a Daedric lord that thinks its time to make himself known, covering part of Skyrim in fire and death.

Frost Giant:
[img]http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs19/f/2007/249/b/8/Frost_Giant_by_boudicca.jpg[/img]

Fire Giant
[img]http://thecrux.cc/Submitted_Images/FireGiant2.jpg[/img]

Sea Giant
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dg91BcsSFiA/SkLJ6Stf1kI/AAAAAAAAAkE/vi07DKqE224/s400/Sea+Giant.jpg[/img]

The actual number of critters is as important to me as ensuring that there's a lot of variety in those critters, instead of basically all using fairly similar AI and attack patterns. It would be nice to have critters do different things (spiders that drop in from the ceiling, enemies that use chameleon to sneak up on you, swarmlike enemies, and so on).

:huh: I surely didn't miss it.





:wink_smile: but thanks for the post, I enjoyed reading your ideas and thanks for the pictures.

Okay, I think that some of the new animals should include (but not limited to,) Large bird-like animals, Dragons, Air Atronach, the Ash creatures from Morrowind, Plague Atronach (Undead, infected, human with major infections), Poison Atronach (No idea how to pull that one off), and bats. Huge bats.

i am interested in new monsters from a gameplay perspective but really interested in increasing the variety of alchemical ingredients available from them so you could just increase flora variety and i would be just as satisfied (almost)

I don't think there needs to be more variety of creatures in the scope of one TES game. I only ask for more unique/ original creatures to battle like Dreugh, etc. I'm bored of the real (bears, etc) and classic myth creatures (minotaurs, etc).

Ah, sorry. See, I didn't mean trolls like Oblivion's trolls which remind me of green, buggy-eyed gorillas, but more the norse type. Though, I suppose, they could always fuse the two. Furthermore, you mentioned the return of a giant, but you didn't go into any descriptions of their variations! With your detailed posts, I would have hoped for some! My mistake, though.

We need more creature types. Anyone played FCOM, or even just OOO or MMM? These add hundreds of new creatures and variations, really bringing tamriel to life, exept for those annoying frost atronach variations which really annoy me.

I voted for all creatures; except for Witches and Dopplegangers (I don't really see them fitting in an Elder Scrolls game, unless you count female mages.)

I think the more the merrier, and would love to see more versatility than in Oblivion.