A mix would be ideal, but have more than Oblivion had (not much variety) I want grizzlies in skyrim

Most dragons are in Akavir. (no we're not going there) The few dragons in Tamriel take on a human form. While dragons wouldn't bother me, if there's only one or two, I don't see how dragons would end up in Skyrim, or why they'd reveal themselves. Dragons, just like Dwemer or Falmer are one of those hidden races. Do we actually know what they really look like? We've only saw young ones (the one at the end of Oblivion was Akatosh, not an actual dragon)

Werewolves. If it's Skyrim, then there HAS to be werewolves.

In my opinion, there were plenty of fantasy animals in Oblivion. Maybe not as much as Morrowind, but since it was in Cyrodiil, it made sense.

If it's a human province, it's gonna have wolves and bears.

Daggerfall had bears at least. Bloodmoon had wolves and bears.

Even if Cyrodil was a jungle, I think it would still have wolves and bears. At least in the north, near Skyrim.

I love the Ghral, but man they were deadly.

And sparse.

Most dragons are in Akavir. (no we're not going there) The few dragons in Tamriel take on a human form.

I have to disagree. Daggerfall was before all the lore was fleshed out properly, and it was pretty cliché all over. High Rock and Hammerfall would have thier own unique wildlife now, methinks. Bloodmoon was based on typical vikings. And there was also a bunch of unique wildlife there; Horkers, Reiklings, Ghral...

You don't want wolves and bears?

No, they are just invisible.

More fantasy animals. Any province can pull off unique wildlife. Vvardenfell was supposed to be an ashy wasteland with hardly any wildlife. We see how that turned out..


Seriously. This annoys me. The ONLY reasons Cliff Racers are annoying is because of too many spawns and too slow descending. These are problems easily fixed and are slight oversights by the devs. Saying you never want Cliff Racers again because they annoyed you in Morrowind is like saying you don't want Dunmer in TESV because they had annoying voices in Oblivion. <_<

I thought I was done with crazy cats when I closed down Morrowind, and came to the forums! :stare:

You're never really done with M' aiq; he is essential.

Morrowind is unique in that it is the most alien of all the other providences

I'd like to see more fantasy creatures. When you get right down to it, it makes absolutely no sense that there would be wolves and horses and bears in Tamriel, because it's a fantasy world with no connection to real life, so you'd think it wouldn't have so many animals that just happen to be identical to real ones (except for the fact that they don't act like any real animal, but that's probably just bad AI.) but it's such a common fantasy convention that I can usually just tell myself it's just a game and I should really just relax and not think too much about it. Still, I'd rather Bethesda focus more on coming up with their own designs rather than just taking things from real life. Because the thing I like about fantasy as a genre is that it has so much potential to create worlds that are different from our own and are each unique, and I wish more people would try to use this potential instead of just sticking to the same narrow framework of cliches and conventions. After all, if I want to see bears or wolves, I can go to a zoo, or watch a show about wildlife on TV if I don't want to leave the house, and it will probably be much more interesting than seeing them in a game because I'd be looking at the real thing, not a 3D model based on it, plus, I could watch their own natural behavior rather than the actions of a limited AI package, and if I specifically want reality in video games, there are games for that too, I don't need it in games that should be trying to create a world that isn't real while making me believe that this world is still plausible.

I can't see guars or cliffracers or nix-hounds at the zoo, they were new and unique, which made them much more interesting than the bears and wolves in Oblivion. Moreover, when the animals you're dealing with aren't real animals, you have much more freedom to work with. When I see a wolf, I tend to expect it to behave in a certain way, because I have an idea of what wolves are like in real life. However, animals in a game might not always act like real animals, maybe the AI is too simple to accurately simulate realistic animal behavior, maybe the designers could have made it more realistic, but it wouldn't really fit with the requirements of gameplay, or maybe they just didn't do enough research on the subject. But regardless, if for some reason, you can't implement your animals realistically, it would actually be much more plausible to use fictional ones instead. Because nix-hounds or guars aren't real, and because of this, they can act however the creators say they do... for the most part. One still expects a bit of logic to the behavior of even fictional animals, but regardless, the creators get much more freedom to decide how they act, so rather than just expecting us to accept it when animals don't act the way they should, Bethesda can instead use fictional animals for which the behavior in the game actually does make sense.



And I'm sure you've seen people complaining about Cyrodiil being boring before.

And Cyrodiil wasn't supposed to be what we got in Oblivion from the start, in the lore before Oblivion, it was said to have jungles and the like. But evidentally Bethesda decided that would be too interesting so we should get another bland copy of Middle Earth with all the interesting parts stripped out.



To be fair, I wouldn't mind not having Dunmer in the series, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the performance of the voice actors.



Sounds like pretty boring creatures to me.

But it isn't. Just look at Morrowind before the game...

It's called retcon. Most of Arena, as you very well should know, has been pretty much been changed so heavily. As for the alien thing, it happened during Redguard, go see the http://imperial-library.info/content/page-12-0, pages 12-18. You can thank MK.

I dont want to play in a land such as skyrim and come face to face 90% of the time with weird looking alien creatures....that would actually make game less immersive imo, and just a rambling mess where every corner comes a strange random figment of a developer's imagination.