No, take for example you capture someone that you think has important information, but he hasn't, and torture, and torture, and torture, he keeps saying that he does not know, and you dont believe him, or opposite, at last he will say what you think he knows.

i chose arson and i would have chosen smuggling had i had the choice but i really think it would be cool for buildings to be able to burn. I know that wont happen due to what would be involved in providing such an ability but i still think it would be really cool.

My 2 cents:

Murder
Assault
Theft
Trespassing
Unsuccessful bribing of a guard (chance of a bribe backfiring results in arrest)
Treason (kill a certain number of guards or government officials)
Unsuccessful Extortion

Petty Crimes would be loosing a day (stocks) with some minor losses in stats. Disposition drop towards everyone by 3.
Minor Crimes would be loosing a range of days in prison with medium losses in stats. Disposition drop towards everyone by 7.
Major Crimes would be loosing a couple days, but if you don't escape, you suffer from public torture where you suffer major damaged stats which cannot be cured by churches (but yes by potions) and a whopping disposition drop by 20 of everyone in the town.

Also, in conclusion...
CRIMES NOT OBSERVED AND NOT REPORTED TO A GUARD DO NOT EARN THE FURY OF THE IMPERIAL ARMY.

What if you did, say an assassination or a theft for a guild and you got away clean with no witnesses. How about an ability to brag about your exploits and have it trickle down to imperial guards and they come to interrogate u by claiming to have heard reports from concerned citizens about your misdeeds. They could use a bar of some sort to show how much more you can brag before a guard is called. It would make it more realistic and interesting to me personally, especially if you hadnt completed the quest in question due to your being side tracked with other quests or things of that sort. If they heard enough reports about it they could actually just come arrest you due to overwhelming evidence of your guilt.

All types of crime should be in. TESV: GTA

Wouldn't that technically be GTH since there are no cars in TES?

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Going off the subject of trials, add lawyers as well. And the ability to bribe the judge.

i think it'd be a useful game mechanic as well...i find it weird that a fireball hitting a tree will fail to set it alight

Good point. But what if carriages are in the next one? Or if you could pilot a stilt strider?

Pretty much ALL kind of crimes should be implemented in-game. It would give us RP-morons so much more fun.

What Shades said. He's list is fine to me!

About taxes... sure why not. Dog tax too! And a bear tax to keep patrols on the streets

Homer: Let the bears pay the bear tax. I pay the Homer tax.
Lisa: That's home-owner tax.



Edit: omg no fame-infamy any more! It's the worst system I've ever seen in a game :/

Social groups with reputations, and your reputation with the law is pretty much the same thing as infamy.

No, it is not. Torture is inefective, but does not mean that it cannot lead to the right answeres. The problem is that the risk of being misled is far to high. Whether or not the torture would revela tru and useful information depends on whether the torturer already knows this information. Torture is more in a way of confirming things.
And a second thing is that in the Middle Ages, torture was often used not for gaining information, but as a form of punishment and for entertaining people. In those regards it is way more reliable.


Pretty nice. and the last sentence is absolutely true. Yes, the crime should be marked only if there is any survivor to seeing it.



Now that would be neat and very life-like. You could use the bragging to impress people in your guild, but at a risk. Would be especially good for Thieves' and Assassins' Guilds. and again, if you are aproached by the guard,depending on your Intelligence, personality and speachcraft, you could talk your way out of this.

Woot!

And I need to stress again that not every crime needs to be made available for the player to perform.

The law also needs an investigation system, rather than "psychic guards". If you go on a killing spree, the Imperial guard could try to gather evidence, and maybe with the aid of wizards, use magic to learn the man who committed the massacre. They aren't going to be like "Well since nobody was seen committing the crime, we will just ignore it happened."

We really don't have forensic sciences in TES but yes we need a investigation.

Mugging eh? Then you should be able to join some kind of clan or group that does mugging on the trails. But this does some what follow the Theives Guild goals. Except the Thieves Guild are a little bit nicier. They just like to steal quietly. :ninja:

I fail to see how Arson and Vandalism are profitable crimes, and I miss a lot of profitable crimes which should be in (murder, trading with drugs, slavery, etc). But I dont see why TES shouldnt support all criminal activities if they want to support thievery guilds, aka organized crime.

extortian equels mafia witch is good

No...

Maybe in Saudi Arabia...

Levitation and Pimping.

I want to be a flying pimp, dammit!

TORTURE! TORTURE ABSOLUTELY! i want to see them lieing on the floor in a pool of blood and begging for mercy. (okay im a little "sick" but some of us really are!)

I dont think death should be there,cos when a gaurd catches you and you see charge:death,your obviously gona run so whats the point

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