more slow, and less distance but equaly deadly

the real aadvantage with a crossbow is this fact "any idiot can use them"
And also one big problem about the crossbow is that i think that no one will prefeer the crossbow over the long-bows
so maybe a crossbow shouldn′t require perks, training etc, it's like a free shot, maybe perfect if you need a silent weapont which can be small, almost perfect for poisoning.

That doesn't sound too bad to me. Mount & Blade did it right I think. Crossbows had similar range and damage but a much lower rate of fire than normal bows, and unlike bows most crossbows couldn't be used on horseback. However, crossbows did not have a skill associated with them so they could be used to the maximum of their effectiveness without training. This made a normal bow in the hands of an archer much more powerful than a crossbow, but crossbows were still a viable weapon for dedicated close-range fighters in need of ranged options, thus properly simulating the 'any idiot can use them'-thing exactly as it should be done. I'd like it if it were similar in Skyrim, though to be honest I don't expect crossbows to be in at all.

The official CD-Action page says there are 4 pages of details on Skyrim. Let's just wait and see...

Crossbows were used by the Vikings, and the Saxons.

I know that's not Tamriel, but places like these represent a large part of Skyrims visual palette.

Yey!
All of our crossbowharassing on Beth was worth it!
;D

This still poses a problem as bows are the primary weapons of assassins, but a crossbow would be better for that purpose if you are attacking outside of battle, which an assassin would do, because it requires less skill.

If crossbows are to be used, I'd like it if the re-load time is as long as it would be in real life. To use effectively in single combat you'd have to employ the Highlander infantry tactics in using muskets during the revolutionary period of the 18th century. Shoot one round off, drop the gun and charge the enemy with your sword swinging. Obviously in the game you'd just change weapons rather than drop it. It would actually be useful as a sniper weapon too if they are including limb damage (headshot/neckshot)

Make it very powerful, but very slow.

yeah, and also they can be a perfect weapon for a swordsman (who want a ranged attack without waste points in the archery perk-tree), they can carry their crossbow (already reloaded) and they just make a shoot and immediately after they just drop the crossbow and draws their swords.

I don't think you know what apathy means.

And yeah, as many have said, that quote does not confirm crossbows at all. It's just making the assumption and included "crossbows" with "bows."

You do know it's thursday today ....right?
Which means you should not be allowed to post today :biggrin:

I love ranged combat,i prefer assassin/ranger types,but i'm over crossbows now.
If they are there,fair enough,but i'm happy with just different types of bows,using a bow require's more skill,i also think a bow would have more/better options via perks.
I would prefer throwing weapons to a crossbow.

Didn't they say that the "ranged" system is going to be very deadly in Skyrim?!
Not too many arrows but every arrow counts?!

That fits xboxs perfectly.. One big, deadly shot before you engage in melee..
So xbow: above average dmg, extremely slow, low skill
Bow: average dmg, fast, high skill

Apathy means a lack of care.

Here is an example

My poem about Apathy
I was going to write a poem about apathy
But I can't really be bothered.

I have/had a feeling that crossbows are in the game, they fit perfectly into the dwemer culture, and there is a lot of that in Skyrim, at least Todd said it.
I don't know if its true but for me crossbows are dwemer inventions; that would explain why there aren't any in Cyrodiil but a lot in Morrowind.
And in Morrowind were only two types, one made of steel and the other from the dwemer.

Noo, realistically crossbows are waaaay slower than a longbow. My guess is if crossbows are in they will be a weapon that is less dependant on the marksman skill because crossbows require much less training... so a character with low marksman will do mare damage with a crossbow, but a trained marksman will do more damage with a longbow. That way melee characters have something they can pull out and shoot from a distance, but it won't do crazy amounts of damage (like a master marksman with a daedric longbow) and it can't be spammed because backpedal speed is reduced and reload time will be long. All in all a pretty balanced weapon in my eyes... and because there were crossbows in morrowind, they can be justified as being brought over by the dunmer, which would explain why there are crossbows in skyrim.

Edit: not only morrowind, but the dwemer culture supports crossbows, and I believe there will be dwemer ruins in skyrim. :biggrin:

Hhhmm, maybe a Beth employee can take a gander at this thread and maybe confirm something? :hubbahubba:

And the reload time could be proportionnal to the strwnght?... Or have crank crossbows or other of the same type... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbow?wasRedirected=true

and maybe perfect for NPCS, something that i hate in oblivion was this situation:

"2 npcs, one with sword the other one with a bow, pam! a badass minotaur attack us!!, the swordman draws his sword and attack and shot! friendly fire...right in the ass -_- ... 3 minutes later the minotaur is death (by me) i'm seeking a f&%$in calm spell in my inventory becaause the swordman want revenge against the bowman, he didn't take easy the arrow in the butt"

But if my npc companions are all swordsmans with crossbows they can make only one shot (in each battle) with the crossbow and after that they switch their weapons drawing their swords.

this sounds really cool.

To sim it up in a nut shell....crossbows require no archery skill,thats why they where made.
Some crossbows are not very accurate at longer ranges either.
Archery as in bow's requires alot of skill.
Todd did say archery skill ,not marksman skill.
Infact alot of people believe crossbows aren't archery.

Crossbows aren't archery. The crossbow is the ancestor of the gun.

Just a little off-topic; Anyone noticed how non-english speaking sources seem to be getting this information first? Not being xenophobic but it's something I've noticed.

Thing is, english-speaking mags get their hands on the info sooner, when Beth doesn't want to divulge as much .

I think the magazine may be assuming there are crossbows when seeing bow and arrows.

Well, if there are crossbows in the game, I think that will be pretty cool! I hope the magazine was right on that. I've never used marksman much myself, but I've always thought crossbows to be an amazing invention; and I know my husband would be thrilled, because marksman is one of his favorite skills. Of course, it wouldn't be fun to come up against an enemy with a crossbow, but it would make for an excellent challenge.

Please quote from the magazine - in English

I doubt it, if so....oh boy I can't wait to be able to reload a cross bow with 150lb+ draw weight in combat while someone is running at me with a sword possibly trying to dodge me shooting them in the face. If crossbows are in sorry but reload means you're going to have to be 100% stationary.

Obviously, crossbows will be just like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX5vac2miBc at 2:10 to 2:17.