I've downloaded the available 7zips from TESNexus and all necessary files are included. If you are using the "No Shivering Isles" patch then you must first install the full mod. I suggest you download the files again and follow the ReadMe closely while reinstalling.



Using OBSE commands modders are able to create scripts that add items directly to leveled lists when the mod is loaded. Regarding adding items to NPCs added by overhaul mods, we use a spell script that identifies which NPCs should receive an item and then adds it to them. Quite simple to explain, though rather difficult to implement effectively.



I've no idea what you are talking about. You'll have to explain to me what you mean by "FOV 90".



It is an unavoidable compromise. If I lower the crossbow it creates considerable clipping with certain vanilla armors and clothes. I decided it was best to avoid the intense clipping as I can not know what type of armor or clothes the character may be wearing. Personally, I've learned to focus on the crosshair and thus do not struggle with aiming.



I've been looking into it, though I've yet to iron out the exact cause. I'm pretty certain I know what is causing it, but I'm not 100% positive. When I upload the next update it will implement a bug fix for this, though I can't guarantee it will work.



Thank you, and enjoy.

no, you misunderstood me (or I did not explain it very well) I only lowered the weapon as a compromise to test my assertions.
What needs to happen is the the weapon needs to be a little less tall so that MORE unobstructed space is seen UNDER the cross-hair.

Otherwise the target is cover up by the front end of the Crossbow when you tilt the weapon up slightly to compensate for the gravity.
This would not happen in real life because you would use the SIDE of the crossbow to aim the weapon (not the top like a modern gun).
But the Crossbow in the mod is not aligned correctly* to use it this way for reasons you stated before.
(*turned so that the back end and the front end line up with the target.)

The way it is now it only works "realistically" for short range shots.


Anyway if it is too much trouble to change the nifs, then I will just use my own Nifs (once you are able to fix the CTD bug.)
My custom nifs work fine so no big deal.

Thanks for a cool mod!

I may still be misunderstanding, but are you talking about actually editing the crossbow mesh so that it appears thinner?

Well, only "thiner" in the Z direction.

So that the front end of the top edge is not up so high.

I liked it at 1 inch lower but even 3/4 inch would be better.

I am just worried that means TOO much re-work of models in Blender (taking up too much of your time).

I would offer to do the work but I tried to do this already and lost the animations.
That is why I had to lower the entire crossbow in NifSkope instead.

I'm not personally responsible for the meshes and textures, those were contributed by Hel Borne. If and when he is able to work on CoC again I'll ask him to take a look at it. Thanks for the feedback!

This looks rather impressive.

Upon my re-install of Oblivion, I will have to give this a try. I bet it would make for a great stealth weapon.

Deleted about issue of invisible arrows.

Got the bow and arrows working now thanks to JDFan, so next will be a wood stake crossbow bolt for my nosferatu vampire mod!

Just wanted to give a brief update. I've isolated the cause of the CTDs that people are experiencing when entering cities. It is directly related to the scripts that were placed on the NPC crossbows. I'm working to correct the problem while maintaining functionality. I've also discovered a bug that causes the player's crossbow to reset every time you enter the inventory menu. I've fixed the latter issue already, but the former may take some time. Thank you for the continued feedback and support. I hope to release v9.2 within the next week or two.

The thing entering the inventory was what I noticed once here. Every time I enter any menu with a crossbow equipped, there's that delay like if the crossbow were unequipped and reequipped. This also causes that entering a menu with a crossbow drawn causes the character to re-drawn it.
But aside from that, I've been using this mod a lot now, and it feels so natural in the game. I regularly go to the smithy vendors to replenish my bolt supply, like if the bolts had always been in the game. And I also like that there aren't a zillion crossbows to choose between: iron, steel and ebony, plus a bonus one (yes I found it) are more than ok and keep the crossbow feel unique (though a dwemer one wouldn't be too bad). I really hope crossbows get back in TES V.

I've noticed a pair of bugs:

I see the crossbow scripts uses DisableControl to prevent the player from doing anything while fastening the crossbow. But if an enemy makes you stagger/kills you while you are fastening the crossbow, your controls remain disabled until you try to fire another bolt. Controls remain disabled even if you reload a new game, which would happen in the case of the player dying.

The other bug is more strange. If you trade with a merchant who has a crossbow equipped and can sell it, which happens quite often with the road merchants from Tamriel Travelers mod, you see two crossbows in his barter menu, one of them with weight 0.

Your moving controls in particular, yeah that is a pain, especially as (as you say) it persists on loading an earlier save game.


That looks like you are seeing the token for the bow as well as the actual item. Something generally meant to be kept hidden from the player. Wrye Bash recently added an "All clothing Playable" option which also reveled all such tokens (they are classified as clothing in the game engine.)

On top of that the constant switching out sounds of the bows when entering exiting menus and so on, is rather annoying (not enough to stop using the excellent addition to the game of course ) as well as the odd glitch where the bow is held in odd positions (just had one where the bow was fired held sideways!) both while aiming and just being held.

Another I noticed is that often when crouching and readying a bolt to fire, the player is forced out of crouch mode - often tactically disastrous!

So; a number of glitches that could be ironed out, to make this truly great. But still a must have mod in my opinion. (unlike some, where the glitch ruins the value of the mod.)

Just a bit of a bump here.

I am hoping that development is still ongoing?

Sorry for the delay in posting. I'm still working on CoC when I can. There has been a lot of stuff happening on my end, which has made it difficult to make any real progress. To sum it up, everyone in my family has had some sort of moderate to serious health related issue in the past three months. I will definitely be working on this when time permits.

That's excellent news Linus.
No pressure at all mate, it is not as if the mod is broken or anything. I welcome an update whenever it is complete.

Hope those health concerns aren't ultimately TOO serious.

Very interesting. I like what you've done with this. I'm actually a bit surprised something like this hasn't already been done before. I don't like crossbows much personally though.

question i've been told that this tends to crash the game when in the Market District. has anything been doen about this yet?

I guess so, if it was ever the case, because I have had no problems running around there to my little heart's content.

New version, and new thread: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1093996-relz-crossbows-of-cyrodiil-v93/ Woohoo!

New version, new thread.