I only just read this lol: I can assure you that I definitely do not work for Bethesda, and even if I wanted to, I live in the UK!

So no, I don't have any unfair advantage or inside information. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long gaming career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you (or at least the guy who keeps hatin' on me!) If you let my theory go now that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you (using the search option), I will not pursue you, but if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you and I will provide you with all of my supporting evidence...

Aye-eye, Mr. Neeson!

By the way, I do like reading your theories. Keep 'em coming!

Oh, believe me - I haven't even started on the real theories yet!

*Sigh* I find it more interesting that you can come up with so many theories, yet fail to grasp someone's point, time and again. My point was never too rip your theories to shreds, my point was that the video evidence, the interviews, nothing, actually supports your story theories! Yet time and again, when someone points out a glaring issue with it, you push aside their criticism and claim you've "done the research" and that you know what you're talking about... like you're the only intelligent person here. Here's the difference between my brewery theory and all your theories, I don't claim it's backed by "scientific research" of roughly a minute of gameplay video, I claim it's speculation. I only ripped part of your theory to shreds simply to show that no, the videos don't really support your story theory.

Most of us have played Bethesda games. Go on Youtube and you'll find thousands of video posts of people making the very similar predictions from the trailer! That's how Bethesda trailers work... it's not rocket science, they make it obvious that everything in the trailers are going to be in the game! And much of that... is also leaked on the Kotaku/Reddit script leak. We also know, for a fact, that Bethesda would never lock us into one gender without giving us a choice at the start of the game, so if the male protagonist is married, chances are his wife is going to be the playable female protagonist. And FYI, I came to the same conclusions after watching the trailer too.

Clip-board guy? Yeah, considering that this is what happened in Skyrim... and Fallout: New Vegas, not to mention Fallout 3 and their GOAT Exam. Bethesda likes to stick to a "Clip-board guy" when it comes to character creation. As for the rest of it, once again you're still pushing a lot of speculation about what happens based on... nothing!

The Vault sealing and only taking in 8 people and that there are only going to be 8 people in the Vault, that's little more than more speculation based on... not a single thing from the interviews or gameplay video. From their distance, they could easily keep accepting Vault residents for a few hours before the nuclear fallout hits them. In fact, with their medicine, a little bit of radiation isn't going too hurt them a lot. The only reason to seal the Vault for good, without taking in as many people who are accepted into the Vault as possible, which I gaurentee is more than 8 people, is if a nuclear blast HITS very close too the Vault! Please try to remember, while the nuclear blasts were bad, it was the NUCLEAR FALLOUT that is the most dangerous. And nuclear fallout, depending on the weather, won't hit the ground outside the immediate blast zone for a few hours, a lot less if it's raining. So your reasoning that the Vault is sealed after a single blast... is flawed.

Final point, my only argument, has been, time and time again, that your story theories, are nothing more than WILD SPECULATION! That we don't have enough information on the story to draw conclusions... and what do you do? You push this arrogant and extremely rude attitude that you've done research... on what's about a minute and half of game play video! I'm sorry if having another opinion that differs from yours is such a major issue for you. And yet, I also point out that yes... you could be right, or partially right! But, until more information comes out, you're posting wild story speculation. And no, your story theories are NOT based on the gameplay video or interviews, as neither haven't released anything beyond the pre-war opening for the story.

I assumed this pretty much after seeing Mr. Handy confirm this in the video. Protag got a rude awakening with that very civilized conversation he had with the robot. I was surprised Handy didn't suggest coming in for a more eloquent meal of high tea complete with crumpets, cucumber and watercress sandwiches. Instead he just rushed in to fix him a good old stale American sammwitch

Protag was definitely in some form of cryogenic suspension in the vault. Todd went super squirrely secretive on what events transpired from the time the protag and his family entered the vault to the time he re-emerged.

I wonder how his family and other vault residents died. Wouldn't surprise me if this was the Enclave's designated purpose for this vault: effect cryogenic suspension on humans for a couple of centuries.

Re: clip-board guy. What I had predicted before the showcase took place, was that during the pre-war tutorial, we are inside, sitting down, with somebody else in the same room as us. A third person then enters the room carrying a clip-board, and they ask us to verify our name. I also said that this would be an interview, and the line of questioning would lead directly into the character creation process. Even though some of the details were different, let's look at what we were actually shown in the footage. During the tutorial, which does in fact take place during pre-war, we are inside, with somebody else in the same room as us, in this case our spouse, and she is sitting down. A third person then comes from a different area (outside), rings the doorbell, and we open the door. This person, who then interacts with us in the same area we are in (the doorway) is carrying a clip-board. Not a list of names, or a ledger, or something else. It's a clip-board. They then ask us to 'verify some information'. We go into the character creation screen, and at the top of page are the words "registration form", which is actually something that you would complete prior to an interview. Even though, as you stated, clip-boards have been used before, the details I have mentioned here are not even close to what we saw during Skyrim, Fallout 3, New Vegas, or any other of Bethesda's games.

In an earlier comment, you also suggested that I perhaps "need my eyes checked". I would argue that I in fact have a far better eye for detail than many people who would be reading this, hence the reason I have been right on so many different aspects of gameplay. Does this make me super-human? Hell no, but it does mean I am more than competent when it comes to finding subtle plot clues. But for some reason, you seem to have taken all of this very very personally. In fact, I am starting to see a pattern emerging in all of your 'aggressive ranting'. It would appear that you may have some unresolved anger issues. But never fear, a solution is at hand. Come November, you will be able to suit up in power armor, customise a few of your favourite weapons, and take it all out on the inhabitants of the Commonwealth. You may even get to watch some of my other predictions unfold before you as you play

Sorry for the delay in posting a response, but I just wanted to say thank you for your encouragement. I have actually compiled pages and pages of notes from the trailer and the E3 footage, and I've watched them so many times now I've actually lost count! And it's an exhausting process. But I do it because of my passion for gaming, and also for my appreciation of the sheer amount of effort that has clearly gone into turning a storyboard idea into a believable game world. The best thing about everything we have seen so far is in the details. All of my theories are based on correlations between minute elements of the footage and other source material. Even the most obscure details can mean something, especially from a company renowned for their use of easter eggs in all of their games.

One such example has to do with my theory of what the Institute are really up to. And so I looked at the overriding themes in the concept art, such as what appear to be large-scale battles. And then I looked at questions others were asking, such as why do we have to play as a couple with a child. And I realised that the answer was most likely to do with shared DNA. And then I dug a little deeper, and began looking at what was unique about the DNA of this family in particular. It occurred to me that it could be to do with the pre-war connection, and the fact that they would have been frozen before the FEV could have reached the east coast. Finally, we have the Information that we know about the Institute, including the development of androids.

Looking at all of this from a story perspective, I brought the various threads together (along with other clues), and it occurred to me that they could be building an army. Not just androids, or clones, but something much more menacing. A natural evolution of the androids we have already seen would be actual synthetic humans built from human DNA. They would be faster, stronger, and far more capable that anything seen on the battlefield. In short, they could really give the BOS and other factions a run for their money.

But the icing on the 'easter egg cake' was when we first meet Codsworth, bearing in mind he is a robot, and he says to our protagonist "as I live and breathe..."

It has to be cryogenics. If he is the child of the original parents which they have said he is he cannot be an andoid. Using occam's razor it would seem that cryogenics is much more likely than some genetic alteration to increase lifespan.

Edit. I guess there is cloning, but the protagonist recognises Codsworth.

I don't know. I think just after the bomb hit some scientist got out of the vault because they realized that no one in the vault had some knowledge that they needed. They find your body and recognize you from the Vet's meeting. They just take your head and pickle it, build an android body and transfer your knowledge into it. Problems happen and everyone in the vault dies before you can be turned on and used for your purpose. 200 years later some fault in the vault (vault fault ... get it?) causing the android to awaken to evacuate, only it's the only thing 'alive' so it leaves on it's own with only it's memories from before the bomb to guide them.

I just want a dialogue option that involves the sole survivor preceding a sentence with "back in my day...." incorporated in the game at some point.

I wonder if we'll find out before November. I am genuinely curious about the events that take place inside Vault 111.

It's was a LSS Pod (Life Support System). When they bombed on NV somebody has left them and radioactive killed medical staffs could be come out of vents from bombed area...

It's almost certainly cryogenics and not the player being an android. They're forcing the player to have a spouse and a child, meaning they're going for emotional resonance. You know what emotion the player will feel if they suddenly have a "twist" that everyone saw coming six months prior to release that your family is a lie and you're an android? Anger. Lots of anger at the studio for pulling some nonsense like that. I don't think that's the emotion they're going for.

I'm guessing that we might be shown a little more over the coming weeks, but the next big reveal will probably be around early September. That's what I would do if I were Bethesda.

To be totally pedantic the military vehicle is more probably a wheeled (confirmed in E3 footage) APC, than a tank.....totally pedantic I know, but at best its an armoured car, due to the small size of the weapon and the general layout I'd say its more likely to be an APC.

This is of course of no great importance, its just a general beef I have at TV reporters who call every military armoured vehicle a tank.

I give gkk7z credit for getting a hell of lot of correct info from the trailer, I could be an ass and make a big deal of the things he got wrong, but mainly I would put that down to over anolysing and trying to go into to much detail.....however he has inspired me to look closer at the release trailer and E3 footage, for instance I just noticed the two redcoats (to the right of the child at 0:51) picture in the concept art.

I'd assumed that Bethesda were going with generalities in the trailer rather than actually showing a lot of actual gameplay footage....I find it surprising how much info they actually packed into the trailer.

Just watched that bit again and I think you're right about it being an APC. Also, well done on spotting the redcoats, that pretty much makes it faction confirmed!

With regards to being pedantic, I think it can actually be quite useful, especially with regards to what we're all doing here. As Todd says "it all starts with an obsession for detail". And I'm glad that you're feeling inspired, it makes the whole process of speculating so much more fun. It also gives us a real appreciation for the sheer amount of detail that goes into making games of this magnitude. As we were told in the gameinformer article, there is so much content in Fallout 4, even Todd Howard himself hasn't seen everything in the game! I cannot explain how utterly mind blowing that fact is. And the game isn't even finished yet.

I laughed, very hard, reading this. You got one thing right from a specific scene... and you're acting like you've got the entire thing nailed! You took a GUESS, there was no "subtle details" that would've lead you to this! If there was, please, enlighten us all to what small, insignificant detail in the trailer, that lead you to this one scene where you'd have the protagonist, another person and than clip-board guy walking in. Lets not forget that you got almost the entire turtorial wrong, even your set-up for the scene is wrong! So you've got an "eye for detail"? Sadly, you couldn't be any more wrong. All you've got, is a good imagination, and made a good guess.

And WRONG, though not surprising. Fallout 4's character creation is surprisingly similar too Fallout 3, Skyrim's and Fallout: New Vegas. You're born in Fallout 3, do your appearance; grow up some, do your SPECIAL, than get your tagged skills from a man with a Clip-board, Mr. Brotch. In Skyrim, who is it that asks for your info that leads too the character creation screen? Clip-board guy, better known as Ralof. And in Fallout: New Vegas, who was Clip-board guy who lead too the character creation, SPECIAL and tagged skills? Why... Doc Mitchell of course! They are similar, they aren't the exactly the same, but the only big difference, is that Fallout 4, the male and female protagonists are completely seperate beings, and not one and the same.

Ah, and this is the most telling part of your post.

I have no "unresolved anger issues." This kind of tactic is what we call a smear tactic and a straw man argument. It's meant to distract and push a debate away from the topic at hand, and attack your opponent. It's a tactic used by people who typically can't actually respond without exposing themselves as the frauds they are. I'm American, I see it every year during elections, and only frauds have to resort to this kind of smear tactic.

I have done no "aggressive ranting" either, nor was I ever "uncivilized" in any post. It has always had a single point... a point that you continue to ignore, deflect, and now make personal attacks on me. That point has been, and will always be, that at this point, you cannot make a claim that your story theories are based on anything other than your own imagination! Instead of admitting that, you brush it off by saying things like "I've studied every second of the video" and "I've carefully listened too every interview" and somehow gained information on the story... when there was nothing said or really shown beyond the opening of the game, and assisting the Minute Men. I pointed out some huge holes in your "Vault 111 theory" page in order to make a point, nothing is actually backing up your story theories as if they are fact.

I have no problem with you posting your theories, some of them, I agree with, some I don't, and some I just go "meh". But if there's one thing I know, it's that any theory you push that actually does make it into the game, will be just like your Clip-board guy theory... you've got one very small part of the entire thing right!

I'm through with you gkk7z, I've made my point, and you've chosen not only to ignore it, you made a personal attack against me because you couldn't actually respond. You have no integrity, that much is obvious. I'll enjoy the game, but I doubt I'll be seeing many of your predictions come true.

Well I'm glad that you don't have a problem with me posting my theories, being that you actually run the forums and all. If you perhaps read the comments that other people have made rather than just trolling my threads, you will see that you are, unfortunately, in the minority as far as your attitude is concerned. Even those who completely disagree with me tend to say so with a little more decorum. I have worked very very hard putting all of my theories together, and many have actually found them interesting as well as useful. Ironically, some of my biggest breakthroughs have come from other people genuinely challenging my ideas which has caused me to dig a little deeper. But you just seem intent on ruining a valid discussion with yet another very personal tirade

Anyway, back on topic. Has anyone thought perhaps about the possible long-term impact of being in stasis for 200ish years? For all we know, we could see some interesting side-effects after we leave the vault.

*Sigh* No gkk7z, the only person who has been trolling here, is you. When you don't respond to what is said in comments and than make personal attacks, that is trolling. All of my posts have responded too everything you said in that post and than pointing out your claim that all your story theories are not backed by the gameplay videos and interviews. In fact, I do believe I did genuinely challenge your Vault 111 theory by pointing out there's 4 dead bodies by the elevator, not 3, and that the clothes on 2 of said bodies do NOT match the clothes of the people were wearing before the bomb fell.

And decorum? I'm a blunt person, I say it how it is. But none of my posts are "aggressive rants" or "personal tirades", those are just attempts at deflecting and moving the discussion away from what I've said, so you don't have to respond to it. I never made this personal, but it's obvious that you being questioned and someone not taking your "I've done the research and know what I'm talking about" is very personal for you.

Let's try and keep this a civil conversation, and perhaps get back on topic a little. This thread is to discuss the matter of cryogenics, whether or not we feel it has been at least partially confirmed by any of the devs (even perhaps indirectly), and also the broader implications that cryogenics could have on gameplay

So guys, any more thoughts on this?

On gameplay? Next to none really. I can't imagine how it could affect gameplay.

My feeling that it IS Cryosleep is in the Demo when the player goes "No no, it can't have been. I haven't been gone that long..." To which Codsworth quips "Which you two hundred years late for dinner!"

So...That means that that blast we see knocked our butts out or somethin', or something else happens, and we sleep off 200 years.

Dude don't even bother. I've read the two of you go back and forth while nursing my beer here. And well it's clear that while he states he welcomes and wants criticism on his theories he actually seems to want no part of it, at least from you. He wont even engage in debate over the points you've brought up yet talks about how boring the forum would be if no one held disagreements with one another. You've tried several times to bring this up to him only to fall upon deaf ears each time...

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?

For the record I do enjoy the majority of these theories in question, some have great 'food-for-thought' aspects. However screaming bloody murder everytime a challenge to a theory is brought up, to automatically think that any difference of opinion is some sort of slander on your person?... Well thats rather lame IMO.

I have engaged in a great deal of discussion with others who have challenged my ideas on all of my threads, and I welcome any and all challenges to my theories otherwise I would not have posted them. But personal attacks and baiting do not encourage healthy debate, and it would appear that this particular situation got out of hand quite some time ago. And so the focus has moved completely away from the theme of the thread itself. Even if there are references to my other ideas, there should still be at least an attempt to keep things on topic, which in this case is the subject of cryogenics. If anyone would like to challenge any of my other theories, please feel free to post on the relevant threads and I will be more than happy to discuss

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