Crysis 2 and cpu to gpu dependencies

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:21 am

Crysis 1 is a GPU hog. upgrading a CPU to improve your frames did almost absolutely nothing.

Will crysis 2 and cry engine 3 be more refined and better coded? I would like the game to properly take advantage of my quad core, and have a good balance on the GPU as well.

Already pre ordered, but just thought I would bring this up.
User avatar
Lory Da Costa
 
Posts: 3463
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:30 pm

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:08 am

going from dual core to qaud was a good jump on crysis1
warhead they optimized so it only needed a dual
crysis2 runs on console so it will be even optimized more
every modern game maxes out your gpu,cpus like qauds not needed in most games anyways
User avatar
Judy Lynch
 
Posts: 3504
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:31 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:11 am

The CryEngine 3 has support for taking advantage of up to eight-core processors, but whether or not it's optimized for that is a different story.

I do think that a much higher load is placed on the cpu this time in Crysis 2 and that it will benefit from more cores, but still expect your video card to take a heavy beating.
User avatar
Kayleigh Mcneil
 
Posts: 3352
Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:32 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:40 am

The CryEngine 3 has support for taking advantage of up to eight-core processors, but whether or not it's optimized for that is a different story.

I do think that a much higher load is placed on the cpu this time in Crysis 2 and that it will benefit from more cores, but still expect your video card to take a heavy beating.
I also agree, true with both aspects. Though new gpu's should handle fine in theory. And I don't believe there is such a thing as an eight core processor yet. Correct me, if I'm wrong?
User avatar
Euan
 
Posts: 3376
Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 3:34 pm

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:03 pm

Nope, no eight core processors yet. I do believe they are on the horizon though for the upcoming AMD Bulldozer when its launched later this year. As for when Intel rolls them out... They still need to make six cores available for under $800, so who knows when the real processor company will roll them out.
User avatar
Milad Hajipour
 
Posts: 3482
Joined: Tue May 29, 2007 3:01 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:10 pm

Nope, no eight core processors yet. I do believe they are on the horizon though for the upcoming AMD Bulldozer when its launched later this year. As for when Intel rolls them out... They still need to make six cores available for under $800, so who knows when the real processor company will roll them out.

8 core(16thread) chips will be coming out by q3 this year for intel. Its gonna be amazing.
User avatar
Alisia Lisha
 
Posts: 3480
Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:52 pm

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:08 am

I have a six core processor with hyperthreading, totalling twelve threads. I wonder why they stopped at eight threads. I guess it's because quad cores with hyperthreading are a lot more common.
User avatar
krystal sowten
 
Posts: 3367
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:25 pm

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:46 am

Nope, no eight core processors yet. I do believe they are on the horizon though for the upcoming AMD Bulldozer when its launched later this year. As for when Intel rolls them out... They still need to make six cores available for under $800, so who knows when the real processor company will roll them out.

8 core(16thread) chips will be coming out by q3 this year for intel. Its gonna be amazing.

Will that be the enthusiast launch of the Sandy Bridge series? I am confused as to what Intel's next enthusiast part is, is it the next Sandy Bridge release in Q3 or the Ivy Bridge that is expected in Q1 2012. After all, I do not want to purchase Sandy Bridge if I will just have Ivy Bridge to upgrade to for enthusiast parts only 6 months later.
User avatar
Cat Haines
 
Posts: 3385
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:27 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:34 am

Nope, no eight core processors yet. I do believe they are on the horizon though for the upcoming AMD Bulldozer when its launched later this year. As for when Intel rolls them out... They still need to make six cores available for under $800, so who knows when the real processor company will roll them out.

8 core(16thread) chips will be coming out by q3 this year for intel. Its gonna be amazing.

Will that be the enthusiast launch of the Sandy Bridge series? I am confused as to what Intel's next enthusiast part is, is it the next Sandy Bridge release in Q3 or the Ivy Bridge that is expected in Q1 2012. After all, I do not want to purchase Sandy Bridge if I will just have Ivy Bridge to upgrade to for enthusiast parts only 6 months later.

Yes. I'm pretty sure its enthusiast SB. Sandy Bridge is amazing(I heard that some people can OC to 5Ghz with the ones out now and still stay at ~60C full load) but I think I would wait till the next series of chips if you wanna upgrade. Especially if you were impatient and decided to buy last years chips(920, 940, etc) like I did...
User avatar
Angelina Mayo
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:58 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:40 am

CPU for anything that requires intense calculating (I.E: physics and AI.) and GPU for rendering it all. Simple as that.
User avatar
Ross
 
Posts: 3384
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:22 pm

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:13 am

With my amd 965 and my intel i7 930, both do not even reach 60% on any game i played.

GPU's are a completely different story.

If you have a good CPU, there is no need to upgrade it or change the board.

A game being multi platform has nothing to do with the PC. For example, BC2 can be run in DX11, i wonder if console can run it? off course not.

Crysis 2 does have a DX11 version, looking at the 3d render files, there are two dx11 files on the leaked game.

For gaming, focus on GPU if you have a good cpu.

Unless you are in the video editing business and need to render/edit videos fast, a multi core/threaded cpu is the heart of you're system. For gaming, purely gaming, a good quad core (for future proof) is all you need for years to come. GPU's are the weak point in gaming.
User avatar
Spencey!
 
Posts: 3221
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:18 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:41 am

is crysis going to suport dx10? i am sitting on 2 4850 now but thinking about getting an upgrade soon
User avatar
Nicholas
 
Posts: 3454
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:05 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:14 am

*crysis 2
User avatar
josie treuberg
 
Posts: 3572
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:56 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:00 am

is crysis going to suport dx10? i am sitting on 2 4850 now but thinking about getting an upgrade soon

I would imagine so, but we will have to wait at least for the Mp demo, maybe dx11 will be available as part of the demo/test to report back (as well as dx10).
User avatar
Rex Help
 
Posts: 3380
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:52 pm

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:47 pm

Even my phenom II X4 @ 3.4GHz was a bottleneck on my hd5870 in crysis >< I never really noticed how badly i was limited until i got my i5-2500K and dialled it up to 5GHz :D
User avatar
Alada Vaginah
 
Posts: 3368
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:31 pm

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:45 am

Even my phenom II X4 @ 3.4GHz was a bottleneck on my hd5870 in crysis >< I never really noticed how badly i was limited until i got my i5-2500K and dialled it up to 5GHz :D

That is very unlikely, but interesting nontheless.

To check for a bottleneck, install a Hardware monitor and check the GPU usage during gameplay, if its reaching the 95%+ area, you either dont have a bottleneck, or its negligible.

On the CPU vs GPU on CryENGINE 3 topic, i think GPU will be totally dominant in the matter, as it was with CE2.
For medium~high anything above a 3.2GHz Dual-Core shoud be fine, the GPU will limit the performance. For enthusiast setting you will need more GPU power, then a quad-core might be necessary.
User avatar
Justin
 
Posts: 3409
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:32 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:22 am

Any tech experts here have any idea how well an i5 750 clocked at 3.1ghz and an ATI Radeon 5850 will run Crysis2? What kind of details can I expect to get @ the highest, higher, and middle settings?
User avatar
Strawberry
 
Posts: 3446
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:08 am

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:08 am

Even my phenom II X4 @ 3.4GHz was a bottleneck on my hd5870 in crysis >< I never really noticed how badly i was limited until i got my i5-2500K and dialled it up to 5GHz :D

That is very unlikely, but interesting nontheless.

To check for a bottleneck, install a Hardware monitor and check the GPU usage during gameplay, if its reaching the 95%+ area, you either dont have a bottleneck, or its negligible.

On the CPU vs GPU on CryENGINE 3 topic, i think GPU will be totally dominant in the matter, as it was with CE2.
For medium~high anything above a 3.2GHz Dual-Core shoud be fine, the GPU will limit the performance. For enthusiast setting you will need more GPU power, then a quad-core might be necessary.

I know what a bottleneck is and how to check, obviously or i wouldn't have said it was the cause, the hd5870 was running at ~60-75% in said situations. The reason for the slowdown (20-30fps) was usually when a lot of enemies were on screen (end of first level on warhead, village in second level of crysis 1 are the two main points where it noticeably occurs) so the physics/AI thread hit the roof of one core on enthusiast. Crysis 2 was only designed around 2 cores, so the physics runs on one thread, the other 3 cores weren't doing much at all. It's more a coding issue than hardware.

My new i5-2500K at 5GHz has no such issues with one core getting overburdened as all the cores are so much more powerful, so they can brute force past it.
User avatar
Scott
 
Posts: 3385
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:59 am


Return to Crysis