Still confused over the ending. At the end when Prophet is speaking he says "we" quite alot so has Prophet become part of Alcatraz or something? I thought it was something like that Prophet is kinda like a parasite, and using Alcatraz's body as like a host to talk through and stuff. I so confused

Alcatraz is dead, but his conscious may still be recovered. After all, he's mostly intact. Unless the suit has replaced his brain.
Prophet is dead, but his memories and qualities are within the suit.
The suit is pretending to be Prophet.
The suit is in control.

However.... From the outside it would be like Prophet is actually alive, and that's what it'd seem like to us.

To put it simply -
Body: Alcatraz
Mind: Prophet
Soul: None. The suit.

Its speculated the suit takes over at the end, but Prophet is actually the suit the whole time, as many cut scenes will tell you, so Alcatraz gets head trauma, but he has the most athletic zombie body out there, prophet pushes Alcatraz brain out the way and takes front seat on the ride and takes over. Remember the suit is keeping him alive, not healing him.

lol no. Think over it again.
Alcatraz is not dead, but would be, if he wouldn't wear the suit. The suit is a copy of Prophet but also Prophet himself.
To explain that : The suit performs symbiosis so, Prophet and the suit became "one". But then, Prophet took of the suit, so there are two Prophets. And the original Prophet killed himself. Alcatraz needs Prophet (the suit) to stay alive and Prophet (the suit) needs Alcatraz to move.

At the end prophet (the suit) talked. If it was "by order" of Alcatraz I don't know. I don't think that Prophet (the suit) took control over Alcatraz, because Prophet talks to Alcatraz and he says "We have to go there, where we are needed" (free translation, I'm from Germany). Would be silly, if Prophet talked to himself, lol.

Alcatraz is definitely not dead. If the suit could function with a corpse, Prophet would never look for a replacement or he could've picked one of the other dead force recon marines.

Alcatraz is in control, the suit only gives him tactical options, keeps him alive and works on the anti virus. If the suit was in control the whole time, you'd never look at your hands in wonder at the beginning or wreck the first door you tried opening in power mode. That was Alcatraz getting used to the suit.
Instead you'd have funky/laggy movement while the suit gets used to controlling a human being.

As far as Prophet's resurrection goes, his memories were stored in the suit. Once Alcatraz synced up completely he got access to them. Think of it as regaining your memories after amnesia except those aren't your memories.
So the end result is the experience and memories of two people in one body.

"Hey There Dead Man" dosnt give you any residual clue there? Who knows, maybe they combined a consious, but the point is Prophet took over. and really, you have to play the game again, without the suit, he is dead, hes broken all over(I actually asked my self in the begining how is it that everyone is his crew got shot except him), but when Lockheart turns the suit off, Alacatraz does die, the suit, yes the suit, revives him through diffibulation, thinking, holy crap, my host is about to die, thats what his symbiosis means, a mutual partnership with the suit and the person, hes being kept alive, and without a body, the suit cant move, or you care to differ? There is no currnet reason as to why Prophet chose alcatraz over the others.......who knows, alcatraz is a twin? or a sibling.

It will all be revealed in the next edition

Cyrsis 3 Field of Dreams Maximum Corn Edition “If you build it they will come”

Nano Suit Larry saves a farmer and his family from sure destruction in Iowa as an alien horde is set on destroying his corn crop during harvest. Its a compelling tale of heroism and corn lots and lots of corn.

There are other questions that are puzzling as well

1. Bathroom capabilities of suit? Or is it Renew Reuse Recycle?
2. The game had a rating with the following listed (Blood, Partial Nudity, Strong Language, Violence) Did I miss a hot tub scene or something? Partial Nudity? Where was it? Did I miss it on a bathroom break?
3. Gauss Rifle – best sniping gun in the game. I saw 2 of them in the whole game did the government stop making them?
4. Alien Jelly fish looking critters that drop soldiers what happen to them?
5. The big Moma critters Moma Ship from cyrsis and Moma Walker thingy from warhead did they run away from NY
6. Alien weapons? Where are they? This makes me want to cry? Why no LUV?

I'm currently reading Crysis: Legion and it's said in there that N2 literally is running Alcatraz's thought's through it.
I haven't finished it, but the whole damn book is written in the style of A talking about his experiences.
And then there's one report where it's mentioned that in certain test A's brain displays minor acitivity but his reactions prove otherwise, so they conclude that Alcatraz and N2 are to be considered as one entity.

I do have to say that I hate when I have to read a book AND play a game (Crysis 2) or play a game AND watch a movie (The Matrix trilogy) to understand the full story.

"Hey There Dead Man" dosnt give you any residual clue there?
Why would the suit yell "wake up marine!" after the emp if Alcatraz was dead and the suit was in control the whole time?

There is no currnet reason as to why Prophet chose alcatraz over the others.......who knows, alcatraz is a twin? or a sibling.
Others really were dead as in no life signs at all while Alcatraz was badly wounded and dieing.

That's my point, he's not a corpse controlled by the suit. He's a badly injured marine controlling the suit and the suit makes sure he can do it by keeping him alive. As a side-effect he can't live without the suit because it grew into his wounds in order to keep him going.

Who knows, maybe they combined a consious, but the point is Prophet took over.
No one took over, they formed a mini hive mind. The reason they are called Prophet is simple. What's a more fitting name for a person who knows how to exterminate ceph and where all their bases are, prophet or the name of a prison?

Why are you trying to contradict me if thats what I just said? And, yes as the other guy pointed out, the suit runs through his nueral dendrite synapses, meaning it remembered prophets as well, meaning the suit actually thinks its prophet, besides that, I actually said what you repeated, look earlier in this thread. mastrEST read the Legions book and he backs me up with my claim.

THIS IS SMALL SPOILERS FROM THE BOOK, NOTHING STORY RELATED JUST ANSWERS TO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SUIT. LIKE POWER SOURCES, HEALING ETC...





Finally found the answers to the suit:
A- Will the Suit live forever. Technically the suit is not alive, it cannot move on its own and therefore its useless without a host. However the "SECOND" or the near sentient computer onboard is symbiotic. All hosts wearing it will leave a full imprint of their psycologic patterns in the suit.

So yes the suit is a sci fi generational archive. As many people wear the suit as many personalities will be merged together to form a new one.
Reason for the suit "not living" forever is that the suit for all of its advances cannot do something the human brain can. Although the brain cannot process hundreds of thousands of times as much data as a computer the brain its still the only computer that can anolyze things with both emotion and practical sides of the equation.

B- Did the Suit Heal Alcatraz's wounds: Simply answered... some of them
To be more prescice as to how the individuals inside the suit are referred to as "dead Man walking". Literally is not that the term "human" is thrown out the window, literally all the suit needs to function is a working brain, and "working" is a very WIDE spectrum.

On to the main point. Alcatraz lungs are nearly gone. One is collapsed unsavageable. the other has too much blood to allow air passage. in conclusion Alcatraz has lost all ability to intake air via his lungs. The suit inject oxygens directly into his blood stream.

=Heart, nearly gone, most of the circulation is done by the suit

=Multiple fractures to vital bones, mostly the spine. This is the only wounds that the suit was "technically" able to heal, by filling in the gaps. Mind you they are still big gaps.

= His voice. Gone. His vocal cords mostly destroyed, and unsalvageable. His suit "electronic" voice box. Or what you have in your pc that you play with typing stuff like "i love pie" and is the weird voice comes up. that voice has been replaced by the imprint of the mind merges of Prophet and ALcatraz. Innititally the voice sounds like prophet, in the end sounds nearly as him. So by the pattern it will eventually be a combination of both alcatraz's and Prophet's voice pattern that will produce the final voice.

No alcatraz doesn't talk. The suit has bypassed the vocal cords and directly tapped into his nervous system.
AKA he thinks about talking the computer uses that to simulate a complete human reproduction through its own speakers.

In the end the suit cannot heal what the body could not in the very long term. It can fill in the gaps or bypass the entire organic system of that process entirely. AKA pumpin oxygen directly into the blood stream

-What to do with the piss... sweat... poop, farts. etc etc etc etc.
Is used for energy pretty much. The suit has an ample range of sources it can gather energy from.

From solar to kinetic, to natural gas.

PS Alcatraz has a probe up his ass... literally the suit probed him to more effectively use his waste as energy.
Suit can gather
-Natural
-Kinetic
-Solar
-Normal electric output plugs in commercial centers or houses. ALthough this last method tends to short out the block if not multiple blocks surrounding his "recharge" center.
-Dead Bodies

Unclear whether the last is related to the nano catalysts or certain protein minerals found in the human body. Not specific about the last source.

But who is the third voice that you hear at the end of the Epilogue video? He says something like: "Who's this wearing Jacob Hargreave's suit? Allow me to introduce myself." Then I couldn't make out the name. Is that coming from the suit or an outside feed?

But who is the third voice that you hear at the end of the Epilogue video? He says something like: "Who's this wearing Jacob Hargreave's suit? Allow me to introduce myself." Then I couldn't make out the name. Is that coming from the suit or an outside feed?

Karl Ernst Rasch, the other founder of Hargreave-Rasch

-What to do with the piss... sweat... poop, farts. etc etc etc etc.
Is used for energy pretty much. The suit has an ample range of sources it can gather energy from.

From solar to kinetic, to natural gas.

PS Alcatraz has a probe up his ass... literally the suit probed him to more effectively use his waste as energy.
Suit can gather
-Natural
-Kinetic
-Solar
-Normal electric output plugs in commercial centers or houses. ALthough this last method tends to short out the block if not multiple blocks surrounding his "recharge" center.
-Dead Bodies

Unclear whether the last is related to the nano catalysts or certain protein minerals found in the human body. Not specific about the last source.
Where does all of that "piss... sweat... poop, farts" come from if he doesn't eat or drink? :/

The Nanosuit, before rebooting again, states that assimilation is complete, and Prophet's memories become "assimilated" into Alcatraz......does anybody know about Wikipedia????

The Nanosuit, before rebooting again, states that assimilation is complete, and Prophet's memories become "assimilated" into Alcatraz......does anybody know about Wikipedia????

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

The Nanosuit, before rebooting again, states that assimilation is complete, and Prophet's memories become "assimilated" into Alcatraz......does anybody know about Wikipedia????
yeah, well that's site where noobs can read partially correct information...

so the nanosuit wearer doesn't have to eat, and still can poop energy? now I definitely want that nanosuit!

First where do all waste from the body come from.

Imagine the suit as a heart who can take power from nuclear, coal, gas solar and wind. Well imagine your body as a solar cell. If you eat you get "sun" energy. If you dont you dont get any. You still have the solar panels there just in case the sun comes up.

In the same way the suit has probe up your ass (from what I understand is miniature). The Suit is built to interact with "normal" people. Normal people dont wear the suit without eating. They eat, sleep etc. The suit uses those excess. basically the suit followed its programing and is ready to use any waste from the body. There is none for now; but do not confuse this with the only source of power, its just an 'extra' source.

Assimilation: This is hard to explain without giving spoilers:


SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Suit is a copy of Ceph technology. Meaning the people who build it even Hardgreave didn't know how they work completely. Like copying a jig zaw puzzle. You can copy piece by piece and know they all fit together. If you take one out you then realize the final piece doesn't work and doesn't look the same as the original. So you blindly copy piece by piece, not knowing what individual pieces do... but knowing taking any of them out causes trouble.

Because of it, the suit even though "modified" to fit a human form it still has the underlaying programing of cephalopod. cephalopod's had a unique central nervous system, in which they dont have a "central" part. THeir tentacles have as a complex connection as their main body. Hence they are more intelligent as well as incredibly flexible. They can control all their suction caps one by one. Imaging having a finger every inch of your body and being able to control each one independently. Hell most have trouble using their ring and pinky independently .

So to explain that. The Suit while having "human form" is still trying to rewrite the "host" to fit the underlaying code. which is that of cephalopod. By assimilation it means the suit finds that the central nervous system of the host is ... "incomplete" for lack of a better word and its trying to fix it based on its core coding. IN other words is turning the human central nervous system into a copy of the ceph, extending the neural network to every piece of your body in equal amounts.

That is what assimilation means... and that is one of the reasons why the term "dead man walking" came from.

Long story short: Suit to assimilate needs to have a compatible host based on its ceph central nervous system original coding. So its extending "your" central enrvous system to hundreds of times its length.

@ SpartasMaximus : When it came to assimilation, I thought of Prophet-Suit and Alcatraz merging. That's why Alcaphet says "They call me Prophet" with the voice of Prophet (of course the nanosuit's doing) and walks in the Prophet-Way. Don't know why, but the walking and doing of Alcaphet in the end reminds me of Prophet. I think their minds merged, not that Alcatraz's nervous system was programmed to the Ceph's one..lol

thats another spoiler. Is not either or. Is both.


Assimilation works on many levels.

A- The Suit is a generational Archive merging the minds of all the ones who have worn it, as well as adding a piece of anolitical thinking that only a compute has into it.

B- In order to join the minds of those who have worn it it needs to rewrite the current host, and the only way the suit knows how to rewrite in an effetive manner, is to turn the central nervous system into something easily compatible with its core coding. Something similar to that of a ceph neural network.

C- In order to build such an extensive neural network it needs to redefine whats "needed" when it comes to organs. Hence the true meaning of "dead man walking" comes to surface. The Suit in order to facilitate communication for the new nervous system that is building uses the tissue thats already inside the body to build. AKA recycles some of your organs to build new neural links.

Assimilation dosn't just work by merging minds. The suit needs neural pathways to increase its effectiveness and will keep going until there isn't any more space to build them. At that pointi t reaches a level of control similar to that of a squid. Where there is no "central" piece of the central nervous system.

the following is guessing:

Now where will it go after it runs out of space I have no idea. It might just do as squidies and stay there. Or it might deem the brain to be another weakspot and break it apart... hell alcatraz might end up as a body full of nerural links everywhere spreading his brain over his entire body.

I guess this since the suit recucles what deems as ineffective... and after its done doing its thing the only weakness left would be the brain.

We know the suit only needs neural network. Found in the brain. but that doesn't mean it needs them in the head of the person. Prophet's conciousness is still there yet he has no brain... meaning the suit has the capability to store those thoughts elsewhere.

AKA: The suit needs a central nervous system, and brain cells to work. But it doesn't need them to be in the same place we would consider them "vital". For all we know the suit could make cluster of mini brains through the body as to not have 1 weakspot in the head.

That might be why Prophet is adressing himself as "we".