Crysis 3 expectations too high?

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:39 am

Why is it that COD comes out every year and is the exact same game, year after year, built on a 10 year old engine, yet people still "love" cod??? I keep seeing several posts with people wanting to delay crysis 3 to next gen consoles, or to put more time into development for pc. It's already been said that crysis 3 has been in development for almost a year, and they still have a year to go. Is it because from crysis 1 to crysis 2, crytek spent 4 years developing the most advanced game engine, now people are expecting cry engine 4 (lol, considering cry engine 3 is currently the best engine out there) and a total change of crysis 2 to crysis 3? Or is it because crytek is world renowned for its graphical development and attention to detail that our expectations are extremely high, and we are expecting them to please "everyone" with crysis 3? Just saying....Crysis is what it is, a fast paced close quarters shooter, if you don't like it, go play BF3 or crapops, thanks.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:33 pm

What do you expect, Crytek released crysis 2 and people are still disappointed, IMO the game was easily worth the $60, seems lke people wanted a game that outlasted there pets, get real people, if Crytek knew about c3, they wouldnt let c2, the most legit fps dominate c3.

And yes Milzee, people are than conceded to demand moar, but also, i think many are just putting theyre 2 cents into the jar before the game is released so crytek dosnt say, "we didnt know"
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:04 pm

i cant speak for the consoles, but the pc part of crysis died after Warhead! Crysis 2 on pc was a fokking joke. I dont expect part 3 to be any better, only that they will pc extra's from the releaseday. Still I will not buy part 3, just because its origin mandatory.

For the console gamers who only played part 2 and liked it(which is not that strange, because there is no connecting with the pc version 5 years ago) part 3 will again be kickass. I expect nothing then a simple fps with the been-there-done-that-content. Just another plain fps which is ported from the console to the pc. That never really worked on pc and never will.

Thank god EA doesnt own all publisher out there
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:46 pm

The fact that people love cod year after year is because its the same quality every year, after year. People are used to it.( im not saying COD is good just consistent quality).

However for a lot of people crysis 1/warhead was superior over crysis 2 and they view crysis 1 as having the better quality. The promise to make crysis 3=crysis1+crysis2 is giving people hope that the quality will rise again and come closer to crysis 1. hence the high expectations and the hype
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:38 pm

Different games have different audiences and expectations, COD uses the same base engine with updates, a new engine is worthless for the COD series, the developers are tasked with making games, they are not known for creating core technology platforms whereas Crytek are.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:01 am

The reason why most console players want this game to be launched on next gen consoles as the problem lies in xbox 360.

For most its ok to be launched on the ps3 given that blue-rays full potential has yet to be tapped, but the only problem would be xbox 360's dX 9 cannot keep up with all the new gaming quality demands.

This will only lead to waste of effort and capital as well as severely limiting the full developmental capabilities of the game itself.

We are not expecting much from crytek or are we putting high expectations on their games, its just because once the next gen consoles come out, the boundaries for greater development and innovation will be placed at a higher level, and after that the game developers will have a larger sandbox to simply awe the gaming audience and not suffocate themselves by trying to give everyone the same experience.

This is why cod has always been succeeding cause they know the boundaries are so limited, all they do is add variety to their series with little extension and without almost no innovation.

This is why we want for the game to be launched on the next gen consoles, it will finally remove a lot of the barriers and the next thing you know, the whole gaming universe will be totally surreal, enjoying in pleasures without measure, without end and at no ones expense.

Yes we applaud the whole community and the crytek for trying their best to work within the given limitations, which fully shows their developmental efficiency, but all i want to say is that its time to make that leap and bring their dream game into reality for everyone to see and enjoy.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:00 pm

The promise to make crysis 3=crysis1+crysis2 is giving people hope that the quality will rise again and come closer to crysis 1. hence the high expectations and the hype

this will never happen as i mentioned b4, the restriction of the console cant make an open world like part 1. Only a 100% pc only development can make that happen. And Crytek is cleary not a pc developer any more!
And the golden build is the console, which is then updated for the pc.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:14 pm

@ Boeteloez

Sorry to prove you wrong, but the console version of Crysis 1 for the 360 proved that the 360 is capable of levels this big.
Not with the same level of quality of course...but it is possible.

"And the golden build is the console, which is then updated for the pc."

Wrong again.. the Cryengine 3 is capable of building the 3 versions parallel.

What you mean is the gameplay aspect... so everyone gets the version that consoleplayers would prefer, gameplaywise.

Crysis 2`s gameplay clearly was a concession towards the supposed preferences that console players have.

But the remake of part one for the consoles sold well..(as far as i know) so maybe we will see more of the original gameplaystyle in crysis 3.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:35 pm

Crytek is cleary not a pc developer any more!
Negating the fact that Crysis 3 will ship with a PC exclusive top-end renderer (DX11) amongst other PC exclusive stuff that we're not going to go into detail yet, and Warface also being PC exclusive. Needs more exclusive.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:06 am

"PC exclusive stuff that we're not going to go into detail yet"

You know how to keep my tension ;-)

But seriously its great to hear that you guys still have love for the Pc community...

Lets forget about the controversy about the Crysis 2 vanilla for Pc or the Betasteal incident.

I hope the other stuff will contain modtools from the beginning.. id love to see some texture- and TOD -mods for Crysis 3 ;-)
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:41 am

@ Boeteloez

Sorry to prove you wrong, but the console version of Crysis 1 for the 360 proved that the 360 is capable of levels this big.
Not with the same level of quality of course...but it is possible.

"And the golden build is the console, which is then updated for the pc."

Wrong again.. the Cryengine 3 is capable of building the 3 versions parallel.

What you mean is the gameplay aspect... so everyone gets the version that consoleplayers would prefer, gameplaywise.

Crysis 2`s gameplay clearly was a concession towards the supposed preferences that console players have.

But the remake of part one for the consoles sold well..(as far as i know) so maybe we will see more of the original gameplaystyle in crysis 3.

Not wrong, right!
If you downgrade any game it will run on an 360, low quality on all major elements. The fact that the pc version looks decades better on pc then then console version of part 1 explain enough, and the pc version is old, but so is the console for that matter
Wrong 2, one build and multi ports!!!! Why the hell did part 2 on the pc said"press start"? Cuz it was a useless port from the console.....nice parallel development there m8, not!

Crysis 2 was a joke on pc dude, just a fun fps with a useless cloak system and perks, which made the game ever more terrible. I sold the game after 2 days already. It was like playing mario without being able to jump. Console rubish and nothing to do with the pc.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:45 pm

Crytek is cleary not a pc developer any more!
Negating the fact that Crysis 3 will ship with a PC exclusive top-end renderer (DX11) amongst other PC exclusive stuff that we're not going to go into detail yet, and Warface also being PC exclusive. Needs more exclusive.

Yeah, i remember reading about this one year ago when part 2 got announced....even a nvidea marketing was made about your game with dx11 and some new gtx card. That turned out to be one big joke and a large let down. The core will still be a console build which will be polished on time for the pc this time. It will not have big open levels and the freedom like part one, of course crytek will try and reach the console restrictions on that. I got more than 150 frames with part 2, who are you trying to fool.

Even if part 3 would have all and more and needs 2 gtx690 to play on max, it stil needs origin to install. Let me guess, warface is free2play, but needs origin right?

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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:08 pm

Crytek is cleary not a pc developer any more!
Negating the fact that Crysis 3 will ship with a PC exclusive top-end renderer (DX11) amongst other PC exclusive stuff that we're not going to go into detail yet, and Warface also being PC exclusive. Needs more exclusive.

Yeah, i remember reading about this one year ago when part 2 got announced....even a nvidea marketing was made about your game with dx11 and some new gtx card. That turned out to be one big joke and a large let down. The core will still be a console build which will be polished on time for the pc this time. It will not have big open levels and the freedom like one, of course crytek will try and reach the console restrictions on that. I got more than 150 frames with part, who are trying to fool.

Even if part 3 would have all and more and needs 2 gtx690 to play on max, it stil needs origin to install. Let me guess, warface is free2play, but needs origin right?
Warface is being launched by Nexon..
I don't mind people having opinions but it's things like this that make me face palm.. You're already giving Crysis 3 bad rep and ripping on something that has a year left. And it's not just you, it's a boatload of people jumping on the negative bandwagon. Seriously, we get it. Now can you stop raging about stuff that hasn't even happened yet, and might not even happen?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:54 pm

It's way too early to tell
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:59 pm

It's way too early to tell

didnt you see the trailer???

Go to youtube and look up the first trailer about crysis 2 and compair that to the release copy of crysis2. But Cry-adam requested me to be nice. Cleary people cant stand the opinion of other people, especially if its bad or negative comments. I wish I could say anything positive about part 2, but I just cant mr crytek. Far cry 1, crysis 1 and 1,5 was brilliant and kick mucho but, but part 2 was rubish and aftering seeing the first trailer of part 3 (which has the same promise as the first trailer of part 2) I still looks like a console game with way to much colors.

Please be noted, I bought ALL crytek game on pc. I even pre-order part 2 on pc after the seeing the first trailer. No need to tell what happened after this. With this in mind and origin mandatory matter, how can i be exited for part 3? Enlighten me?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:42 pm

So a trailer released over a year before the game comes out is an accurate representation of the final game?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:03 pm

@ Boeteloez

Youre right everyone has a right to state his own opinion.. but yours is kind of onesided and undifferentiated.

The menu and the press start thingy is only a side aspect of the game. So for you the menu is a crucial aspect of a game.
Maybe Crytek was a bit lazy or in temporal pressure so that the "press start" and the options menu had to be rushed for the release. I admit the vanilla version was a bit of a letdown .. but crytek never said that Crysis 2 will support DX11 from the start nor that it will totally surpass its predecessor.

But if you look at Crysis 2 now ( with the dx11 patch and mod support [especially maldos texture packt]) its actually a game which makes heavy use of Direct X11 features. And with Maldos textures its even the game with the most tesselated objects. The gameplay is maybe a bit linear ... but far from generic console standards like COD or Killzone.

For Crysis 3... What weve seen so far is pre alpha footage i suppose... maybe even console footage... so its way way too early to state any comments on what the final product will look and feel like.

For the origin argument: Iam a pro steam and pro origin advocate. Because these companies have a right to protect their intellectual property. These platforms are just an advanced copy protection. Just a logical reaction of the pirating on the PC and other platforms.
What i dont wanna see is that companies like EA misuse these Platforms to collect information or spy on my computer...

Opinions are good... but prejudices are not.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:46 pm

So a trailer released over a year before the game comes out is an accurate representation of the final game?

as i mentioned b4 and in the same post, go look up the first trailer(s) of crysis2. Same nice details and all.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:38 pm

@ Boeteloez

Youre right everyone has a right to state his own opinion.. but yours is kind of onesided and undifferentiated.

The menu and the press start thingy is only a side aspect of the game. So for you the menu is a crucial aspect of a game.
Maybe Crytek was a bit lazy or in temporal pressure so that the "press start" and the options menu had to be rushed for the release. I admit the vanilla version was a bit of a letdown .. but crytek never said that Crysis 2 will support DX11 from the start nor that it will totally surpass its predecessor.

But if you look at Crysis 2 now ( with the dx11 patch and mod support [especially maldos texture packt]) its actually a game which makes heavy use of Direct X11 features. And with Maldos textures its even the game with the most tesselated objects. The gameplay is maybe a bit linear ... but far from generic console standards like COD or Killzone.

For Crysis 3... What weve seen so far is pre alpha footage i suppose... maybe even console footage... so its way way too early to state any comments on what the final product will look and feel like.

For the origin argument: Iam a pro steam and pro origin advocate. Because these companies have a right to protect their intellectual property. These platforms are just an advanced copy protection. Just a logical reaction of the pirating on the PC and other platforms.
What i dont wanna see is that companies like EA misuse these Platforms to collect information or spy on my computer...

Opinions are good... but prejudices are not.

I could care less about the menu, the simpel 1 on 1 port from the 360 is what is hated the most at that point, because not only were they lazy as hell to optimize the pc version, they didnt took the effort to change it into : press any button/space. Are we supposed to believe that you are taking the pc group serious at that moment? What if nintendo deliverd a new mario which lack the capability to jump. What is this mario game supposed to be in the line of all mario releases?!
I got more then 150 fps with the dx11 and hd patch. The game looked better, but was still closed up as hell. Consoles ruined part 2 as they will also ruin part 3, mark my words.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:06 am

I give a **** about colors, details and stuff. Of course it′s a great thing when the game is working perfectly, but for me are only a few things important! Better SP, like C1 (played it on PC), fix the damn mp issues, like matchmaking, lag etc. Include the DLC maps in the regular map rotation, i don`t want to spend 20 bucks for DLC′s and no one is playing/paying for them.
And yes, it′s a trailer...A FAST PACED AND CUTTED TRAILER...1 year before the release. I don`t judge on anything, it′s way too early!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:25 am

I never understand why there was so much hate towards Crysis 2 from entitled, whiney PC gamers. I'm a PC gamer, and these people give me a bad name.

Crysis 2 had:
-A map/engine editor
-DX11
-Continued patches
-Dedicated servers
-Console commands & config editing
-Modding
-Full SP & MP experiences

Certainly much more than so-called 'PC-centric' games like BF3. Really, some people should open their eyes.



Finally, one year before Crysis 2's release there was NO gameplay footage. Things changed soooooo much from the first Crysis 2 screenshots.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:48 am

I don't mind people having opinions but it's things like this that make me face palm.. You're already giving Crysis 3 bad rep and ripping on something that has a year left. And it's not just you, it's a boatload of people jumping on the negative bandwagon. Seriously, we get it. Now can you stop raging about stuff that hasn't even happened yet, and might not even happen?
This. It seems that some people have nothing else to do than pour hate on a game that won't be out in a year. Crytek says that the game will be much more open than Crysis 2, but the haters just keep trolling. I'm tired of hearing this BS. If the game will svck so bad, then why are you commenting on topics about it?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:28 pm

so you cant even drop your own personal opinion, and if you do and it is not to someones liking, he or she is just a troll? After playing crysis 1 and warhead and then years later you see the first trailer about part 2 (which has exactly the same content as the first trailer from par 3) you go and pre-order the game AND YES IT WAS MENTIONED THAT CRYSIS 2 WOULD BE A DX11 PC GAME (even a marketing campagne was made with the new gtx560 and crysis AND DX11), but then you get the game and install it and it is just a simple and badly done consoleport, the story is totally different and the level design is so horrible messed up.....you might actually think that a particular part of the pc fan base were seriously dissapointed.

But sorry sirs! i didnt know that this forum is for loyal fans only and all comment must be positive and should never harm the organization called Crytek. Truths hurts m8, wake up and it is a solid fact that C2 was very weak on the pc. Even Crtyek addmitted this.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:29 am

@ Boeteloez

150 Fps`? Do you own a GTX 590 or what?

Try running it on your TV with post Full HD resolutions and Maldos texturepack (you can also adjust draw distance and LOD there). Otherwise: Games are ment to entertain and not for freaks who want count the FPS each time they play. (therefore god gave us benchmarks)

Your example with Mario and the ability to jump and Crysis and its wide areas is a bit excessive and unobjective.

The setting was destroyed New York and not the Jungle...so the playable areas were appropiate for the Setting.
If you didt like the setting... and crytek announced Crysis 2 to be more narrow.. why did you buy it in the first place?

Also the consoles graphical quality tends to be at low and medium settings for the Pc... and are not even close to anything "high" "ultra" or "DX11" related.

If you dont like Crysis 2 dont buy it...dont play it... but dont blame it for trying something different.

And the DX11 on start assumption was based on NVIDIAS adcampain and is not related to CRYTEK!
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:15 am

But sorry sirs! i didnt know that this forum is for loyal fans only and all comment must be positive and should never harm the organization called Crytek. Truths hurts m8, wake up and it is a solid fact that C2 was very weak on the pc. Even Crtyek addmitted this.
You said it yourself, this site is for fans, people who want to talk about and enjoy Crysis in a welcoming, friendly, respectful manner. This is why people are commenting against your remarks because while everyone is entitled to their opinion, not everyone wishes to come to gamesas to read post after post (you chain bumped 6-7 threads last night with pretty much the same post in each) from people who have nothing nice or good to say.

We get it, you didn't like Crysis 2, please stop posting the same point in every single thread. If you have an issue with Crysis 2, please take it to the Crysis 2 forum.
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