Well considering James Cameron said the 3D in Crysis 2 is on par with Avatar, I think you are talking ****.

James Cameron also thought Avatar was a good movie, so i think he is talking ****.

And Avatar is a critically acclaimed film considered somewhat to be a master piece by multiple major critics, has recieved high scores, awards, and strong audience feedback, so i think you are talking ****.

So is Call of Duty, is that a good game?

All that means is that reviewers were paid enough, audience is stupid enough, and that award givers are influenced by both for-mentioned parties.

Well considering James Cameron said the 3D in Crysis 2 is on par with Avatar, I think you are talking ****.

James Cameron also thought Avatar was a good movie, so i think he is talking ****.

And Avatar is a critically acclaimed film considered somewhat to be a master piece by multiple major critics, has recieved high scores, awards, and strong audience feedback, so i think you are talking ****.

Now I can actually see how you can like Crysis 2 so much. I bet you also consider britney spears a masterpiece of music industry. C2 definitely earns it's place in this (un)holy trinity of entertainment industry.

Well; you really can't have the best 3D solutions real-time. Crysis 2 3D is fine, i've seen it at my friend's house, though.

James Cameron also thought Avatar was a good movie, so i think he is talking ****.[/quote]

And Avatar is a critically acclaimed film considered somewhat to be a master piece by multiple major critics, has recieved high scores, awards, and strong audience feedback, so i think you are talking ****.[/quote]

So is Call of Duty, is that a good game?

All that means is that reviewers were paid enough, audience is stupid enough, and that award givers are influenced by both for-mentioned parties.[/quote]
call of duty isnt that great mabey if they use a new engine it will be good.

the only reason why call of duty games get high scores is due to the fact that the spend millions on party's and gifts for press and game magazine employee's they know if they give a bad score ur negative comments about the game they wont be invited and such.

money can do alot.


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Well; you really can't have the best 3D solutions real-time. Crysis 2 3D is fine, i've seen it at my friend's house, though.

How do you mean?

And OK guys this topic is completely split in half, please go on with your Avatar stuff in another topic.

Well; you really can't have the best 3D solutions real-time. Crysis 2 3D is fine, i've seen it at my friend's house, though.

yeah if you look at it for a while it look gorgeous, but it's just a matter of time to realize that there's something wrong if you are used to 3d.
any d3d game have a better 3d solution than this crysis 2 atm , even 8 years old games gives a better stereoscopic image actually.
i really don't see the point to hack nvidia 3d vision and change it to this solution, they was probably short on time to do a proper 3d for pc and they have just used the same they have used for crappy consoles, we always come back to the same problem, the same of dx11 and other matters caused by the simultaneous developing for consoles.

usually 3d is done by nvidia driver, but to get a good one with no problems the game has to be tweaked a bit from developers, if not usually shadows, motion blur, depth of field and other stuff are not rendered properly, also developers must implement a 3d crosshair, else it's just unplayable (like the first crysis), but this requires time obviously

i hope i have put this into their attention for future patches, this will not only be fixed for crysis 2, but for all future games that will use this engine, and considering the excellent work they have done i bet there will be plenty of that in the future.

reet so this game can output anaglyph by using a command right? so I dont need a iz3d driver etc? I play with iz3d drivers at the moment for anaglyph but cant set it right, if crysis 2 has an unlockable command that will work can someone post please, thanks

I play with 3d glasses since 1 year and half and after 1 hour playing crysis 2 in 3d i've started noticing that there's something strange, first sign was the performance, 44fps in 2D and 40fps in 3d? WHAT? i was positively surprised about performance but there must be something strange, as all games in 3d loses about 40% fps and this one less than 10%?
then i've searched a bit on the net and now is clear, world is not 3d, hud is 3d and for the world there's a sort of "shift" that creates a 3d effect but it's more near to a 2d to 3d conversion than to a real "dual camera" 3d.

This explains also the strange distortion around the weapon and near the monitor borders, as you have not information on what's behind the weapon when is shifted so there's that "approximation".

I can see the reason of this strange 3d you have implemented in this game, xbox360 is not the newest console, and in order to have a good 3d without playing at 10 fps you have invented this hybrid 3d technique that is really fast and uses very low resources.

I want to congratulate to crytek programmers for this achievement as also myself i have been cheated by this at first.

Now the question, do we (PC GAMERS) really need this kind of surrogate 3d ? i love to play at higher fps and the effect is not bad, but i'm sure that a proper 3d is another story.

Maybe with a real 3d i should lower some details to have a nice framerate with my current config, but i prefer much more to play it in a real 3d without those artifacts, and with the ability to set higher depth than now.
And we can always buy another card and do a sli, that is my current wishlist for the future.

Any Chance to have a real 3d for this game in the future and leave this technique for consoles only ??

i've never been able to play any crytek game properly in 3d, the first crysis and warhead had unfortunately some wrong depth issues on shadows and some other things, so to play in 3d i had to turn off a lot of features, for crysis 2 not wrong depths but wrong 3d ?

thanks for reading and sorry for my english
god dam
i thought i really became crazy coz i sensed from the first minutes of playing the game that THIS 3d is VERY strange.. i just tryed to understand and it seemed ALL objects in game were 2d. now i seeeee.....
i've just launched CoD: black Ops with full 3d support
yes
it is BIG difference
it is COSTRATED 3D in Crysis2
FLICK YOU CRYTEK!!! FLICK with your **** EA
you just **** powned us
FULL programm of pownage
EVEN 3D!!!!!!!!
you **** silly sh1t
**** you and your **** Crysis 3 in future

I play with 3d glasses since 1 year and half and after 1 hour playing crysis 2 in 3d i've started noticing that there's something strange, first sign was the performance, 44fps in 2D and 40fps in 3d? WHAT? i was positively surprised about performance but there must be something strange, as all games in 3d loses about 40% fps and this one less than 10%?
then i've searched a bit on the net and now is clear, world is not 3d, hud is 3d and for the world there's a sort of "shift" that creates a 3d effect but it's more near to a 2d to 3d conversion than to a real "dual camera" 3d.

This explains also the strange distortion around the weapon and near the monitor borders, as you have not information on what's behind the weapon when is shifted so there's that "approximation".

I can see the reason of this strange 3d you have implemented in this game, xbox360 is not the newest console, and in order to have a good 3d without playing at 10 fps you have invented this hybrid 3d technique that is really fast and uses very low resources.

I want to congratulate to crytek programmers for this achievement as also myself i have been cheated by this at first.

Now the question, do we (PC GAMERS) really need this kind of surrogate 3d ? i love to play at higher fps and the effect is not bad, but i'm sure that a proper 3d is another story.

Maybe with a real 3d i should lower some details to have a nice framerate with my current config, but i prefer much more to play it in a real 3d without those artifacts, and with the ability to set higher depth than now.
And we can always buy another card and do a sli, that is my current wishlist for the future.

Any Chance to have a real 3d for this game in the future and leave this technique for consoles only ??

i've never been able to play any crytek game properly in 3d, the first crysis and warhead had unfortunately some wrong depth issues on shadows and some other things, so to play in 3d i had to turn off a lot of features, for crysis 2 not wrong depths but wrong 3d ?

thanks for reading and sorry for my english
god dam
i thought i really became crazy coz i sensed from the first minutes of playing the game that THIS 3d is VERY strange.. i just tryed to understand and it seemed ALL objects in game were 2d. now i seeeee.....
i've just launched CoD: black Ops with full 3d support
yes
it is BIG difference
it is COSTRATED 3D in Crysis2
FLICK YOU CRYTEK!!! FLICK with your **** EA
you just **** powned us
FULL programm of pownage
EVEN 3D!!!!!!!!
you **** silly sh1t
**** you and your **** Crysis 3 in future

I've never been able to play any crytek game properly in 3d, the first crysis and warhead had unfortunately some wrong depth issues on shadows and some other things, so to play in 3d i had to turn off a lot of features, for crysis 2 not wrong depths but wrong 3d ?


Regardless of the type of 3D Crytek used, I think it works very well. Just not at it's default level. Once you are in-game, you can change the magnitude of the 3D effect. I prefer mine to be set around 65% but the default is a mere (unimpressive) 20%. This is done in the options menu, but I forget exactly where.

The warping effect you see at the screen's edges could be because you have changed your FoV. There is always some warping at the screen's edges, but increasing FoV increases that screen warping. Turning on 3D will make that warping even more obvious. If you are unsure what FoV is, then this probably is not the problem you are having.

Cheers.

It′s obvious that the small performance-drop has tricked you into thinking the 3D in Crysis 2 is fake. But I′m pretty sure the 3D is real, and Crytek has in many interviews explained that they use a different technique than normal to produce 3D, thus getting far better performance.
I think they said that the performance-drop could be as low as 1.5%.

nope there are videos also that demostrate that is not 3d as it should be, but to be sure just go near a building edge, if you put yourself perpendicularly to the side of the building you are watching to, and then strafe a bit in order to see a bit of the other side of the building, you should see the other side first with one eye, then with the other, this does not happen, if you alternate the 2 view closing eyes respectively , is quite clear that the image is the same, it's just shifted.
doing this test on any other game does not give those results

just compared with Black ops, Metro 2033 and Bad Company
There is no 3D in Crysis
it is cheap **** fake for x-box boys to avoid their sh1t device to be burned after 3D mode enable
i'm in shock
i really am
Crytek is just pitty piece of sh1t

...When in actuality the brutality of the Indian culture was worse than that of the United Stated, ...

...Also invading countries for a resources like oil is perfectly reasonable to invade a country...

(I had to reply to this)
I feel pity for idiots like you!

btw: I would like to play in 3D but I don't have 3D glasses

prove me wrong. your statement has no meaning unless you can back up the claim that "I am an idiot." It makes you look stupid when you go around calling people idiots and thats it.

And if you do not think invading a country for oil is reasonable then you must live in a third world country. Sense there is no replacement for oil, and wont be for at least a hundred years and because the world economy not only runs off the US economy but OIL, invading is reasonable. OIL is food for countries and sense the world runs off the US economy you better hope the US invades for a resource like oil when push comes to shove or you will be in the ditch with us.

You should take an economics class, the fact that you do not know the basics on how the world runs is pretty dam funny and pathetic.

The statement by James Cameron per Cvet Yaril "if true" then he was looking at a different version of C2 from what we have. There is NO WAY James Cameron could have made a statement like this based on PC persion of C2 that we currently have. There could be a possibility that Cameron was looking at real 3D rendered with DX11. Again if the statement a true.

...When in actuality the brutality of the Indian culture was worse than that of the United Stated, ...

...Also invading countries for a resources like oil is perfectly reasonable to invade a country...

(I had to reply to this)
I feel pity for idiots like you!

btw: I would like to play in 3D but I don't have 3D glasses

prove me wrong. your statement has no meaning unless you can back up the claim that "I am an idiot." It makes you look stupid when you go around calling people idiots and thats it.

And if you do not think invading a country for oil is reasonable then you must live in a third world country. Sense there is no replacement for oil, and wont be for at least a hundred years and because the world economy not only runs off the US economy but OIL, invading is reasonable. OIL is food for countries and sense the world runs off the US economy you better hope the US invades for a resource like oil when push comes to shove or you will be in the ditch with us.

You should take an economics class, the fact that you do not know the basics on how the world runs is pretty dam funny and pathetic.
LOL you're teaching me economics and I have economics diploma (bachelor of management, acounting and auditing)

Whatever, just don't fail anymore, ok?

ok i've tried some of the commands suggested some threads before
by the way most are only tweaks for convergences, or to select other stereo modes for other stereo devices, that is not the thing i was looking for

the only command i was wishing about was

variable: r_StereoMode
type: int
current: 0
help: Sets stereo rendering mode.
Usage: r_StereoMode [0=off/1/2]
1: Dual rendering 1
2: Post Stereo 2

i was really hoping that "2" was the current stereo used by crysis and "1" the real dual rendering stereo, unfortunately nothing changes with 1 or 2

let us know if someone has got more info about it, thanks

The statement by James Cameron per Cvet Yaril "if true" then he was looking at a different version of C2 from what we have. There is NO WAY James Cameron could have made a statement like this based on PC persion of C2 that we currently have. There could be a possibility that Cameron was looking at real 3D rendered with DX11. Again if the statement a true.

you can easily be cheated by this at first, also consider that Cameron is a director not a technician, he knows what he wants but he doesn't probably know how to get it, i don't think he has skills in 3d programming even standard 3d, not stereoscopic. I should be much more suprised if a statement like that was done by one of the programming guys behind the Avatar project. And also if you consider the work crytek has done to reach this "low cost" stereo 3d i congratulate to them aswell as i have said in the first topic, we just don't need this for PC, that's all.

LOL you're teaching me economics and I have economics diploma (bachelor of management, acounting and auditing)

Whatever, just don't fail anymore, ok?


lol who are you trying to convince?

If you really have a diploma in economics you either went to a **** school or your professors were idiots. Everything i said is fact, and the ONLY people who disregard what is say are just ignorant. You have yet to back up your point and or explain your side. All you are doing is throwing out a red herrings. If all you're going to do is say i am wrong and not prove me wrong you points are irrelevant.

So far what i have gotten out of you is, you cannot defend your side so you are going to shrug me off by saying "Whatever, just don't fail anymore, ok?" Yet you can't show were i fail? Your arguments fail.

face it, you know i am right. whether or not you want to believe it is irrelevant to me. If you think the world does not run on oil you truly are stupid. i would wager 90% of your products in your house come from oil. around 80% of what you find in the outside world either originated from oil or runs off of the stuff. Its a fact of life. And if the largest economy in the world (United States, but sense you apparently graduated with an economics degree you should already know this) runs off of oil for shipping, creating of goods, automobiles etc this recourse is vital in terms of keeping a country alive. That is until we find a replacement which has not been found. If a country wants to stay alive it needs to obtain its main source. Just like humans, if you are hungry you will buy food until someone is no longer willing to sell it to you, then you take it. (IF YOU WANT TO LIVE!)

I think you are just afraid to combat me because you know i will rip apart your argument finding fallacies left and right. And because you already put yourself in the hole by saying "LOL you're teaching me economics and I have economics diploma (bachelor of management, acounting and auditing" you know i will reference that when you make a slip up. So either way you are in the corner. You can keep shrugging me off making you just look like a spineless oaf who trolls the forums or you defend your position showing at least common decency and manhood (if you are a male). Remember you started this by calling me an idiot so don't even try the "im a troll BS."

... so, how's about that 3D topic?

thanks, hope they'll stop to spit their words now...
please continue in PM, no one cares here
i don't even read your posts, really.

Adam do you have any (un)official word about this matter ?
i'm not actually playing single player anymore cause i would like to get the best out of it and if you're going to change something in the near future i'll be happy to wait.
I've waited 1 year to play gtaIV with a decent framerate so no problems at all for me, in the meantime i'm enjoying a lot multiplayer (i never use glasses in multiplayer games), i have also more than a dozen games to start on my steam account so...

does the r_stereomode command has something to do with the stuff we are talking about here? is it maybe locked as of now ? and/or is there (or will be) any command to override your custom 3d ?
thanks for reading

I would also like to know how to enable anaglyph, Ive seen tech slides of cryengine 2 using this, could someone teach me to enable this effect?

clearly you did not understand the movie if you think the anti american part was about greedy corporations. It was anti american because it attempted (BUT FAILED) to show how sweet and innocent the Indians were before we took their land. When in actuality the brutality of the Indian culture was worse than that of the United Stated, which the movie clearly did not show.

Also it attempted but still failed at showing the United states only invades countries for oil, in other words he attempted to show that the Iraq war was unjustified and we are only there for oil. Which is ****. Also invading countries for a resources like oil is perfectly reasonable to invade a country.

And just FYI The world runs on oil whether or not you like it.

And no crap that every story has been done before, but when it is as predictable as Avatar that is what tells me the movie svcked. I should not be able to figure out every character and there backgrounds, as well as the whole story within just 20 minutes into the movie.

People are just svckered into the "oooo" & "AHHHH" of the special effects (Which were not that great) and forget about the story. All anti American aside the movie was terrible. BTW I am not against anti American movies, for example I loved Full Metal Jacket.

And to finish, YES the way you articulate the language you were born to speak can make you opinion more valid than another. Having a knowledge of the language you are born to speak shows you have an education and tells the reader that you may know what you are talking about. Again that is an assumption to the reader but most of the time its true.

First: Anti-American? I would call it a slap in the face to all humanity. And I freeking LOVED it. That was what made Avatar so good. But yeah, it had OK effects and it had an old but still good story which was told in a new way, a quite interresting way, which helped make it a really good movie. I have jet to see a movie that gives me the same "Wow, that was a good movie" efffect as Avatar did.

Second:Oil a good reason to invade a country? Perhaps. But not after trying to get it peacefully ofcourse. And not if it is oil that the invaded country needs.
I can understand USA invading for example Norway to get oil if we start taking blood prices or refuses to sell it
But if we do that because we are in great need of that oil to ourself, the US should respect that.

Third: Yes, you are right about language

And so sorry for going offtopic. But I just can't resist the urge to answer things like this

Edit:
Woah, I have something ontopic too, actually

Yes, they should have made an "real" 3D mode for C2 PC with the option to use the console 3D for low-end PCs. But they didn't, so to bad for you early adopters and stop whining : )

I would also like to know how to enable anaglyph, Ive seen tech slides of cryengine 2 using this, could someone teach me to enable this effect?

you have to enable it in nvidia control panel first, if you have an ati i think you can't.
once you have enabled (and tested) it in nvcp you should be able to use it in crysis 2 aswell, just go to 3d option and enable 3d, nvidia drivers will use anaglyph then.

clearly you did not understand the movie if you think the anti american part was about greedy corporations. It was anti american because it attempted (BUT FAILED) to show how sweet and innocent the Indians were before we took their land. When in actuality the brutality of the Indian culture was worse than that of the United Stated, which the movie clearly did not show.

Also it attempted but still failed at showing the United states only invades countries for oil, in other words he attempted to show that the Iraq war was unjustified and we are only there for oil. Which is ****. Also invading countries for a resources like oil is perfectly reasonable to invade a country.

And just FYI The world runs on oil whether or not you like it.

And no crap that every story has been done before, but when it is as predictable as Avatar that is what tells me the movie svcked. I should not be able to figure out every character and there backgrounds, as well as the whole story within just 20 minutes into the movie.

People are just svckered into the "oooo" & "AHHHH" of the special effects (Which were not that great) and forget about the story. All anti American aside the movie was terrible. BTW I am not against anti American movies, for example I loved Full Metal Jacket.

And to finish, YES the way you articulate the language you were born to speak can make you opinion more valid than another. Having a knowledge of the language you are born to speak shows you have an education and tells the reader that you may know what you are talking about. Again that is an assumption to the reader but most of the time its true.

First: Anti-American? I would call it a slap in the face to all humanity. And I freeking LOVED it. That was what made Avatar so good. But yeah, it had OK effects and it had an old but still good story which was told in a new way, a quite interresting way, which helped make it a really good movie. I have jet to see a movie that gives me the same "Wow, that was a good movie" efffect as Avatar did.

Second:Oil a good reason to invade a country? Perhaps. But not after trying to get it peacefully ofcourse. And not if it is oil that the invaded country needs.
I can understand USA invading for example Norway to get oil if we start taking blood prices or refuses to sell it
But if we do that because we are in great need of that oil to ourself, the US should respect that.

Third: Yes, you are right about language

And so sorry for going offtopic. But I just can't resist the urge to answer things like this

Edit:
Woah, I have something ontopic too, actually

Yes, they should have made an "real" 3D mode for C2 PC with the option to use the console 3D for low-end PCs. But they didn't, so to bad for you early adopters and stop whining : )

It could have been a slap to humanity BUT considering James Cameron is a flaming democrat he naturally hates the United States, that is why i say it was anti american. You have to understand the director to understand the point he is trying make. And the US would not invade a country for oil if that country is an ally (Such as Norway) and Norway needed it. The US has never invaded a country for oil and i do not think it will ever happen.

US has SOOO much oil we would never need to invade. Unfortunately we have environmental IDIOTS who do not want to drill for oil.