- According to latest magazine preview, no quicksave in PC version same as console. There had better be quicksave... keyboard have much more buttons.

- We need to change weapon to throw grenade everytime... grenade use one slot of weapon changing in Crysis2. It's not big problem. But it's not good. We can use "G" key for grenade. Keyboard isn't controller.

-No suit menu. Q&E for mode changing. But I think that it should be lean button. So, Crytek should make suit menu. The best way is "we can select both types in option".

- Crysis2 use cover system. Because controller don't have enough buttons, We can use Q&E for lean normally. Cover system only isn't good. The best way is "we can select both types in option".

It's easy to implement these. I wish Crytek minds PC Gamer...

What, that's all true? With each passing day my expectations for the game get lower and lower. I definitely need a demo before making this purchase, otherwise I'll wait until the game is $30 or less.

Of course, we don't know latest version & final version.
But this is true in the info what we can get now.

I hope its still gonna be changed...

In anycase thats not a good thing to hear that they took shorcuts for the PC version.

Obviously I was so much bored by QTE nanosuit system, maximum speed, maximum strength, maximum speed, maximum strength... all time, from match to match...hrrrrrrrrr, don't want it anymore. >:E

We need to change weapon to throw grenade everytime... grenade use one slot of weapon changing in Crysis2. It's not big problem. But it's not good. We can use "G" key for grenade. Keyboard isn't controller.

It's all about designer's choise, grenades as weapon(select and use) was used in Quake 2, for example.

I hope we have the option to change the controls for our keyboards.

Crytek has already abandoned the pc, we will get nothing but a console port that has graphics no better (mabey worse) than crysis. I was a huge fan of the first one and bought it twice and the expansion once. I have spent the last few years building my computer with crysis as a benchmark. Some areas in crysis where near photo realistic and I was hoping for that push in technology with crysis 2 but from my understanding that push in technology is for 4 year old graphic cards on consoles. My guess is that it will run at 60 fps day one and I know that may sound dumb but it also means no pushing our hardware. Please let me know im wrong.

Crytek has already abandoned the pc, we will get nothing but a console port that has graphics no better (mabey worse) than crysis. I was a huge fan of the first one and bought it twice and the expansion once. I have spent the last few years building my computer with crysis as a benchmark. Some areas in crysis where near photo realistic and I was hoping for that push in technology with crysis 2 but from my understanding that push in technology is for 4 year old graphic cards on consoles. My guess is that it will run at 60 fps day one and I know that may sound dumb but it also means no pushing our hardware. Please let me know im wrong.
Watch the Reflections demonstration. It will blow your mind.

Many of those things you are complaining about seem like developer choices and not necessarily a console handicap, however I agree with you because 6on6 just isn't going to work well on PC, and we have heard of no SB3 information.

Many of those things you are complaining about seem like developer choices and not necessarily a console handicap, however I agree with you because 6on6 just isn't going to work well on PC, and we have heard of no SB3 information.
I'm not commenting your 6vs6 argument, because that is about another thread, where it's been discussed and cleared.

But the other points are right: It's hte choice of them to change that. In fact, Crytek said, that the complicated suit menu is one of the most things that got complained about. changnig suit modes to adapt your combat ability sounds great in theory, but it's way off beeing easily adaptive. And then the suit voice >_O can't hear it anymore.

I think the checkpoint system is way more challenging then the normal save-system. Try Crysis on Delta without the save system, and you know what I mean. It worked well in other games, so why not in Crysis?

None of the things mentioned in the OP are console limited. But design choice. Do you really think having to scroll to grenade is a button limitation? Please refer to console versions of pretty much every fps game ever, and then CS:S.

It actually makes grenade spam less common as it's a risk to take the time to swap.

It is also more realistic.

indeed, you wouldn't want to prep and throw a grenade one handed!

They(Crytek) still trying to made different game and I respect them for it. Whatever.

I think we all should make our own judgement when the game comes through, for all you know, this could be a really great game, considering what most of you guys call "Console Limitations".

I don't think this community has many bright fans. Shame really.

I think we all should make our own judgement when the game comes through, for all you know, this could be a really great game, considering what most of you guys call "Console Limitations".

I don't think this community has many bright fans. Shame really.

Protip: Don't go "I think you should do this", and follow it with "YOU'RE ALL STUPID".

I didn't say "YOU'RE ALL STUPID". I simply said there aren't many positive fans here.

And by making judgement when the game comes through, I mean if we ever do get a chance to get early hands on (Demo) or if we get the game when it releases, then we can see what it really is like.

indeed, you wouldn't want to prep and throw a grenade one handed!

I'm pretty sure in real life you don't cycle weapons until you want to get to a grenade

indeed, you wouldn't want to prep and throw a grenade one handed!

I'm pretty sure in real life you don't cycle weapons until you want to get to a grenade

No, but you's sure as hell not pull the pin and throw one handed! You'd 'change' (if you will) to a grenade.

indeed, you wouldn't want to prep and throw a grenade one handed!

I'm pretty sure in real life you don't cycle weapons until you want to get to a grenade
It's like this: 2 Weapons, 1 Explosive. Explosive get's a special button (on Xbox). It was the right D-Pad in the Test, next to underbarrel attachement (D-Pad Down), Binocs (Up) and vision modifier (left). With Y you only swith trough main, and second weapon. For the PC I guess, it'll be the same: 1 and 2 are main and second, 3 is explosive. 4 is holding down for Radar and alien gunship (I actually saw that in one video). With the Wheel, you only cycle main and secondary weapon.

Crytek has already abandoned the pc, we will get nothing but a console port that has graphics no better (mabey worse) than crysis.
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Please let me know im wrong. You're wrong

I think a lot of people forget that Crytek, more specifically, Crysis started on PC. There was a lot of feedback from Crysis from all the PC gamers out there who played it. All of the negative points Crytek then set out to fix over the next 3 years of development with Crysis 2. Whilst on the surface, some decisions may seem completely random or wrong but there is researched reason behind it. There is a tight lid being kept on things, i know but i also know that so many people are going to go "...OH!... WOW! This is awesome" when they sit down and play it. Have faith, that's all i can ask

Crytek has already abandoned the pc, we will get nothing but a console port that has graphics no better (mabey worse) than crysis.
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Please let me know im wrong. You're wrong

I think a lot of people forget that Crytek, more specifically, Crysis started on PC. There was a lot of feedback from Crysis from all the PC gamers out there who played it. All of the negative points Crytek then set out to fix over the next 3 years of development with Crysis 2. Whilst on the surface, some decisions may seem completely random or wrong but there is researched reason behind it. There is a tight lid being kept on things, i know but i also know that so many people are going to go "...OH!... WOW! This is awesome" when they sit down and play it. Have faith, that's all i can ask

That would be the more logical aspect of thinking for the future of Crysis 2. However, still good in the long sense.

Crytek has already abandoned the pc, we will get nothing but a console port that has graphics no better (mabey worse) than crysis.
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Please let me know im wrong. You're wrong

I think a lot of people forget that Crytek, more specifically, Crysis started on PC. There was a lot of feedback from Crysis from all the PC gamers out there who played it. All of the negative points Crytek then set out to fix over the next 3 years of development with Crysis 2. Whilst on the surface, some decisions may seem completely random or wrong but there is researched reason behind it. There is a tight lid being kept on things, i know but i also know that so many people are going to go "...OH!... WOW! This is awesome" when they sit down and play it. Have faith, that's all i can ask
Your assurance helps the fact that I am still buying.

You guys, the game will be better looking than first one for sure. You just wait. (pc version I mean)

Crytek has already abandoned the pc, we will get nothing but a console port that has graphics no better (mabey worse) than crysis.
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Please let me know im wrong. You're wrong

I think a lot of people forget that Crytek, more specifically, Crysis started on PC. There was a lot of feedback from Crysis from all the PC gamers out there who played it. All of the negative points Crytek then set out to fix over the next 3 years of development with Crysis 2. Whilst on the surface, some decisions may seem completely random or wrong but there is researched reason behind it. There is a tight lid being kept on things, i know but i also know that so many people are going to go "...OH!... WOW! This is awesome" when they sit down and play it. Have faith, that's all i can ask

Call of Duty also started on the PC... 'nuff said.

Where the IP starts is not an indicator of how the future titles will be, as that is up to the developers decision... Personally I do not have any issue with the game technology being multi-platform as long as the game is developed with multi-platform in mind. Every system has its own specific needs that need to be addressed, which is the hardest part of a multi-plat game title.