CTD every time I open any door

Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:50 am

Hello all,

I have read through all of the important posts about popular bug fixes etc, but none of them seem to relate to my current situation.

I was in the Sargon cave for a fighters Guild quest when the game kept crashing when I tried to loot some crates (I tried numerous times). I left the cave using the exit door and recalled back to a safe house and can also exit using that door. But whenever I use any door after that, the game crashes.

This is a completely new bug to me. I get the usual random crashes that everyone gets every now and then, but this is specifically when I use a door. I added no new mods or messed around with the .ini file or anything.

Would a reinstall work? Or do something with the .ini file?

This has never happened before and I don't know what to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

p.s. I also looked at the warnings.txt file and it mentions nothing related to doors or interior/exterior cells.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:33 pm

Post the contents of your Warning.txt after a crash.
If you use mods, post your Load Order.

Can you sleep/wait 72 in-game hours in a row?
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Travis
 
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:26 am

Thank you so much for getting back to me.

Here is the contents of warnings.txt

One of the files that "WeatheredSigns.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "MW_CultOfTheClouds_v10.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "master_index.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "AragonsBow.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Theurgist.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Muck Shovel of Vivec v1.1.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "VGreetings-Hit.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "VGreetings-Thief.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "VOORHEES_AldIndoril2.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Cait's Critters Unleashed 2.0 (Tribunal).esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Illuminated Order v1.0.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Dogs of Morrowind.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Telos Rin Graveyard.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "TarMar.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Morrowind Comes Alive Recruitable NPCs.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Morrowind Comes Alive Guards Patch.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "BetterClothes_Patch.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "AEV_TCA.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "IceBradyHurdyRobeReplacerALL.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.
Not able to find Forearm part in WAR_H_E_P_M.
Not able to find Forearm part in WAR_H_E_P_M.
Expression Error Unable to find object "ab01TRmuckleech" in script ab01wlgPoolScript.
Expression Error Unable to find object "ab01TRseacrab" in script ab01wlgSaltDeepScript.
Expression Error Unable to find object "ab01TRseacrab" in script ab01wlgSaltDeepWarmScript.
Expression Error Unable to find object "ab01TRmolecrab" in script ab01wlgSaltShoreScript.
Script Error: EXPRESSION in PB_Apocalypse_book_script
Right eval



Here are my mods (I'm copying this from the Morrowind .ini. I hope that's the right place).

GameFile0=Aduls_Master_Mod.esm
GameFile1=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
GameFile2=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
GameFile3=Better Heads.esm
GameFile4=Beyond YsGramor v2.5.esm
GameFile5=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile6=GDR_MasterFile.esm
GameFile7=MCA.esm
GameFile8=Morrowind Comes Alive.esm
GameFile9=Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
GameFile10=Morrowind.esm
GameFile11=Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
GameFile12=Texture Fix 1.7.esm
GameFile13=Texture Fix 1.8.esm
GameFile14=Tribunal.esm
GameFile15=TR_Data.esm
GameFile16=TR_Map1.esm
GameFile17=TR_Map2.esm
GameFile18=Abandoned Flat.esp
GameFile19=abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
GameFile20=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile21=adamantiumarmor.esp
GameFile22=Aduls_Arsenal.esp
GameFile23=AEV_TCA.esp
GameFile24=Alchemy of the Wind.esp
GameFile25=All Boats and Striders.esp
GameFile26=Annastia V3.3.esp
GameFile27=AragonsBow.esp
GameFile28=AreaEffectArrows.esp
GameFile29=Azriel the Merchant.esp
GameFile30=A_flock_of_seagulls.esp
GameFile31=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
GameFile32=bcsounds.esp
GameFile33=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile34=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile35=Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
GameFile36=BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp
GameFile37=BetterClothes_Patch.esp
GameFile38=blackheartarmor.esp
GameFile39=BY_Patch_L1.5.esp
GameFile40=Cait's Critters Unleashed 2.0 (Tribunal).esp
GameFile41=Centurion?s_Stronghold_Extension_V21.esp
GameFile42=Chu-Bran's Treasure.esp
GameFile43=Clean Better Daedric.esp
GameFile44=Consignment_chests.esp
GameFile45=Cragonmoor v 1.1.esp
GameFile46=DN-GDRv1.esp
GameFile47=DN-GDRv1_NOM.esp
GameFile48=Dogs of Morrowind.esp
GameFile49=EBQ_Artifact.esp
GameFile50=entertainers.esp
GameFile51=FalmerEvert.esp
GameFile52=Faster-v10.esp
GameFile53=Flee AI Tweaks.esp
GameFile54=Holy King Armor.esp
GameFile55=IceBradyHurdyRobeReplacerALL.esp
GameFile56=Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp
GameFile57=Illuminated Order v1.0.esp
GameFile58=Kaylas_Kick-Knacks.esp
GameFile59=Leaves of Lorien.esp
GameFile60=LeFemmArmor.esp
GameFile61=Less Lore.esp
GameFile62=Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile63=Lich Father Act I.esp
GameFile64=Lich Father Act II.esp
GameFile65=LightTheWayScriptBM.esp
GameFile66=LightTheWayScriptMW.esp
GameFile67=Lothavor's Legacy BB addon.esp
GameFile68=Lothavor's Legacy.esp
GameFile69=master_index.esp
GameFile70=MCA - Guards Patch.esp
GameFile71=Morrowind Code Patch Showcase.esp
GameFile72=Morrowind Comes Alive Guards Patch.esp
GameFile73=Morrowind Comes Alive Recruitable NPCs.esp
GameFile74=Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
GameFile75=Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
GameFile76=Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp
GameFile77=Muck Shovel of Vivec v1.1.esp
GameFile78=MW_CultOfTheClouds_v10.esp
GameFile79=Myth and Murder ver 2.0.esp
GameFile80=NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp
GameFile81=Nymeria's Mages'guild fix.esp
GameFile82=Of Love and Ignorance.esp
GameFile83=Oluhan V1.13.esp
GameFile84=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile85=ReptileInseparableSiblings.esp
GameFile86=Seraphs - Water.esp
GameFile87=Siege at Firemoth.esp
GameFile88=silgrad_tower_1-4_6.6.esp
GameFile89=SirLuthor-Tools.esp
GameFile90=Skooma Anonymous.esp
GameFile91=Stanegau Isle.esp
GameFile92=Suran Archery Store_v3.0.esp
GameFile93=Suran_Underworld_2.5.esp
GameFile94=Tales of Tel Branora.esp
GameFile95=Tales of the Bitter Coast.esp
GameFile96=TarMar.esp
GameFile97=Telos Rin Graveyard.esp
GameFile98=The Ebony Blade V1.02.esp
GameFile99=Theurgist.esp
GameFile100=TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp
GameFile101=VGreetings-Attack.esp
GameFile102=VGreetings-Flee.esp
GameFile103=VGreetings-Hit.esp
GameFile104=VGreetings-Idle.esp
GameFile105=VGreetings-Thief.esp
GameFile106=VGreetings.esp
GameFile107=VOORHEES_AldIndoril2.esp
GameFile108=Vvardenfell Druglord.esp
GameFile109=WA_SoulGems(!).esp
GameFile110=Weapons of Tamriel v1.2.esp
GameFile111=WeatheredSigns.esp

Thank you. Please let me know if there's anything else you need.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:32 pm

Also, I forgot to mention, I can wait 72 hours in a row (3 x me waiting for 24hr block). It did not fix the situation.
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Emily abigail Villarreal
 
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:56 pm

Just looking through the load list, two errors jump out. You have to choose one or the other of these sets, not both.

GameFile34=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile35=Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp

GameFile46=DN-GDRv1.esp
GameFile47=DN-GDRv1_NOM.esp


Not sure if this is causing your error, but it will definitely cause a problem eventually. :)


KF
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Kaley X
 
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:24 am

Thank you for the tip. I have now deactivated one in both pairs. However, it has not fixed the glitch.

Thank you for the advice anyway.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:56 am

These warnings: Expression Error Unable to find object "ab01TRmuckleech" in script ab01wlgPoolScript.
are likely because you're using "abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp" without using "abotWaterLife.esm"

All your warnings that start with "One or more plugins..." and "One of the files..." can be easily fixed with Wrye Mash. They are unlikely the cause of this problem, but they should be cleared out anyways.
Using Wrye Mash to correct your esp's and then Sync your Load List, then Repair your Save often corrects many types of problems.
I also suggest using http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Mlox on your Load Order.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:16 pm

I'd suggest downloading http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1083121-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-anolyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/page__hl__Mlox and running it. It may find your problem.


KF

Edit: Ninja'd :ninja:
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Pixie
 
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:08 pm

Hello again.

I've cleaned up my mods using both mlox and TEStool, but it has not fixed the door bug.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:18 pm

Try Wrye Mash, It's much, much more comprehensive than what TESTool does.

Does the problem persist with a New Game?
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:07 pm

Strange. It keeps freezing when I try to start a new game.

I will try Wrye Mash and see if that fixes it.
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Krystal Wilson
 
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:19 pm

GameFile12=Texture Fix 1.7.esm
GameFile13=Texture Fix 1.8.esm


No need for version 1.7 as 1.8 supersedes it.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:19 am

Thanks for the tip. Sorry, I am a bit of a new player when it comes to all of this.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:51 am

I have cleaned my saves and mods with Wrye Mash, but unfortunately the game still crashes if I open a door. What should I do now?
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:18 pm

Post your new Load Order (after repairing it with Mash and running it through Mlox)
Post your new Warning.txt after your next crash.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:44 am

Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
Better Heads.esm
Morrowind Comes Alive.esm
GDR_MasterFile.esm
Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
Beyond YsGramor v2.5.esm
Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
Texture Fix 1.8.esm
MCA.esm
Aduls_Master_Mod.esm
TR_Data.esm
TR_Map1.esm
TR_Map2.esm
abotWaterLife.esm
Less Lore.esp
WeatheredSigns.esp
MW_CultOfTheClouds_v10.esp
master_index.esp
AragonsBow.esp
Theurgist.esp
entertainers.esp
Aduls_Arsenal.esp
AreaEffectArrows.esp
bcsounds.esp
LeFemmArmor.esp
adamantiumarmor.esp
EBQ_Artifact.esp
Myth and Murder ver 2.0.esp
Stanegau Isle.esp
Siege at Firemoth.esp
Chu-Bran's Treasure.esp
Alchemy of the Wind.esp
Of Love and Ignorance.esp
Faster-v10.esp
Muck Shovel of Vivec v1.1.esp
VGreetings-Hit.esp
VGreetings-Thief.esp
VOORHEES_AldIndoril2.esp
Tales of the Bitter Coast.esp
Tales of Tel Branora.esp
Cait's Critters Unleashed 2.0 (Tribunal).esp
Flee AI Tweaks.esp
Illuminated Order v1.0.esp
Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp
abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
VGreetings-Flee.esp
VGreetings-Idle.esp
VGreetings-Attack.esp
Dogs of Morrowind.esp
VGreetings.esp
Telos Rin Graveyard.esp
Weapons of Tamriel v1.2.esp
P.R.E. v4.0.esp
TarMar.esp
Holy King Armor.esp
blackheartarmor.esp
SirLuthor-Tools.esp
Azriel the Merchant.esp
Better Bodies.esp
Suran_Underworld_2.5.esp
BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp
Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
Centurion?s_Stronghold_Extension_V21.esp
Lothavor's Legacy.esp
Lothavor's Legacy BB addon.esp
Nymeria's Mages'guild fix.esp
NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp
Oluhan V1.13.esp
Abandoned Flat.esp
Suran Archery Store_v3.0.esp
Seraphs - Water.esp
TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp
Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp
Clean Better Daedric.esp
FalmerEvert.esp
The Ebony Blade V1.02.esp
A_flock_of_seagulls.esp
BY_Patch_L1.5.esp
Kaylas_Kick-Knacks.esp
All Boats and Striders.esp
Lich Father Act I.esp
Cragonmoor v 1.1.esp
ReptileInseparableSiblings.esp
Vvardenfell Druglord.esp
Lich Father Act II.esp
Consignment_chests.esp
Annastia V3.3.esp
Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
silgrad_tower_1-4_6.6.esp
Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
Skooma Anonymous.esp
WA_SoulGems(!).esp
Leaves of Lorien.esp
MCA - Guards Patch.esp
Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
DN-GDRv1.esp
BetterClothes_Patch.esp
AEV_TCA.esp
IceBradyHurdyRobeReplacerALL.esp
Morrowind Code Patch Showcase.esp
LightTheWayScriptMW.esp
LightTheWayScriptBM.esp
Merged_Dialogs.esp
Merged_Objects.esp
Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp


I know I have both the old Morrowind Comes ALive and the newer MCA version, but I tried deleting the older version before and it just caused too many headaches. Besides, it's been like that since almost the beginning, so I don't see why it would be the cause now.

Also, I forgot to mention, for the past week or so before this bug started happening, I was getting these start-up error messages:

'Script Error: EXPRESSION in PB_Apocalypse_book_script'

and

'Right Eval'

I didn't seem to notice anything wrong so I ignored it. Could this be the cause? Bear in mind that I had been using doors fine for over a week when I was first getting these error messages before the door bug hit.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:51 pm

Using Merged_Dialogs.esp will mess up your game.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:27 pm

Merged_Dialogs.esp
Don't use this. It causes quests to break.

Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp
Wrye Mash makes a much more reliable merged Leveled Lists. It is called Mashed_Lists.

'Script Error: EXPRESSION in PB_Apocalypse_book_script'
'Right Eval'
This is likley the problem. Do you know which mod it's from? The script seems to having some problems.


Keep in mind that it likely has nothing to do with doors themselves. It's just happening when you're changing cells.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:12 pm

'Script Error: EXPRESSION in PB_Apocalypse_book_script'
'Right Eval'
This is likley the problem. Do you know which mod it's from? The script seems to having some problems.

It looks like that script is from "Oluhan V1.13.esp".
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Neliel Kudoh
 
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:11 pm

Hello all.

I have now disabled the Oluhan mod and I now no longer get the script error message or the door glitch!

It seems that the Oluhan mod was responsible, after all. Just to be safe, I also disabled the Merged Dialogues list as well. Hopefully it won't come back now.

It's a shame I can't play the mod, but with such a game-breaking bug, I suppose I will have to do without.

Thank you all so much for your help.
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