CTD every time I try to open a Book/Scroll!

Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:16 am

I have no idea how this originated. Well, I seem to remember downloading http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31337 and noticing CTD's ever since then each time I open a book. It very may well be something else however, as I wasn't reading many books to begin with before installing this texture... plus, it is removable.

Quite confused though, I don't see how this could even be happening unless there is no book texture when I go to open the book. Or a sound is missing? Something must be out of place I would imagine... gah, someone who knows more please enlighten me I am lost.

Thanks

-J

EDIT: Ok, happens in a completely un-modded setup as well. Must be a missing texture or mesh? Does everyone have a book_background.dds in Oblivion\Data\Textures\Book? That has not installed the above said mod.


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Astargoth Rockin' Design
 
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:48 am

I don't have a book folder in textures. Vanilla textures are all in the BSA I think.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:00 pm

I don't have a book folder in textures. Vanilla textures are all in the BSA I think.


Ah yes, that is actually a comforting thought. The issue might be in the default BSA's then?

That's all I could really think of, not sure how they could have gotten corrupted as I did not edit them.. but I see no other reason why after disabling all of my mods that the problem still persists.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:40 pm

I do not have the aforementioned mod, and also don't have a textures\book folder. Your load order looks kosher though. Move the folder to your desktop, rebuild Bashed Patch, and try reading something. If it still crashes... well then you're in trouble :shrug:
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:36 am

I do not have the aforementioned mod, and also don't have a textures\book folder. Your load order looks kosher though. Move the folder to your desktop, rebuild Bashed Patch, and try reading something. If it still crashes... well then you're in trouble :shrug:


What is the point of moving the folder to the desktop? It's almost like 50gb so i'd rather refrain if at all possible, heh. I'm thinking I could replace the default BSA's with.. well, the default BSA's from a new installation. Thing is, I can't install the game again.. I suppose I could install it on another computer and overwrite the BSA's in my current folder.

I will not re-install lol, I will not do it... I have spent too much time on this install getting it how I like it and not to mention this install is extremely stable.

Could anyone who uses the CS a lot chime in here? I could really use some advice.

It cannot be a large data corruption if it is one, as it seems to be only affecting books so something must be missing somewhere, no?

Does anyone, or maybe could anyone upload the default Oblivion BSA's for download?

I'm just talking out of my hat here, I'm not savvy with the CS whatsoever except for being able to find an item or two and edit the weight.. so I'm really lost here. Certainly, we could iron down the situation and find the problem.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:02 am

What is the point of moving the folder to the desktop? It's almost like 50gb so i'd rather refrain if at all possible, heh. I'm thinking I could replace the default BSA's with.. well, the default BSA's from a new installation. Thing is, I can't install the game again.. I suppose I could install it on another computer and overwrite the BSA's in my current folder.

I will not re-install lol, I will not do it... I have spent too much time on this install getting it how I like it and not to mention this install is extremely stable.

Could anyone who uses the CS a lot chime in here? I could really use some advice.

It cannot be a large data corruption if it is one, as it seems to be only affecting books so something must be missing somewhere, no?

Does anyone, or maybe could anyone upload the default Oblivion BSA's for download?

I'm just talking out of my hat here, I'm not savvy with the CS whatsoever except for being able to find an item or two and edit the weight.. so I'm really lost here. Certainly, we could iron down the situation and find the problem.


Rename the your current oblivion folder to oblivion2 and you should now be able to install.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:59 pm

book textures are located in bsa under

textures\clutter\books

textures\menu \books has well (icon for them)
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:18 am

since i'm working on something involving books, I am familiar with where the vanilla meshes or textures are.
Yes, the vanilla files are packed in a bsa, but the structure is:

meshes\clutter\books
textures\clutter\books

Maybe the mod puts its textures in the same? Worth a quick look, I think.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:29 am

Ok, I took a look at the Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.BSA with BSA Commander.. and well, I see 58 entries under textures\clutter\books including page.dds and page_n.dds which I assume are the pages that appear when you open a book.

Under menus50\book I see a scroll_background.dds which is the background for the scroll I would assume. Here's something, under menus80\book I see a book_background.dds which is the file that is included in the mod. So, everything seems to be intact??

Does this seem like some sort of corruption to you guys? I can't think of logically what else could cause any issue like this... I don't think a mod would cause this?

Still pretty lost as what to try, has anyone dealt with this before?

Rename the your current oblivion folder to oblivion2 and you should now be able to install.


Also, this doesn't work because it is saved in the registry I believe. I don't even have my Oblivion install on my main HDD and it won't let me place it on another HDD either. It only says "Play" instead of "Install."

EDIT: No mods edit the original Oblivion.BSA's right? So from my new install I could replace the old BSA's with new to test?
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:07 pm

Also, this doesn't work because it is saved in the registry I believe. I don't even have my Oblivion install on my main HDD and it won't let me place it on another HDD either. It only says "Play" instead of "Install."

Go to the actual disk and run setup.exe. Maybe that won't work; I don't have the disk with me.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:35 am

Go to the actual disk and run setup.exe. Maybe that won't work; I don't have the disk with me.


Yeah that doesn't work it still opens the same launcher. I have got it installed on another computer though and am going to replace the BSA's shortly. Crossing my fingers.

I also notice that the default Oblivion.esm is about 30mb smaller than the Oblivion.esm that I have in my current install. I did some minor editing in the CS a few times to change the weight of some items.. I suppose it couldn't hurt to replace the Oblivion.esm as well, of course all of this is being backed up. This will be interesting to see.

EDIT: Odd, the Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.BSA in my current install was larger than the default one I replaced it with..
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:01 am

WIN! It had nothing to do with the BSA's.. although, I left them there as it can't hurt. I looked in the Data folder for anything relating to books and saw that there was a duplicate of book_pages from multiple mods so I decided to re-install DarK UI'ed Darn and WOILA! What a nice looking scroll we have here... :shifty: . HOOTREH!

Sorry, little excited I thought I was doomed... but knew there was a way if I narrowed it down. TY sirs!

-J out
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:15 am

LOL, I was going to say sounded like your original problem was a messed up portion of the UI/menu, glad you got it sorted out.
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