CTD on multiple cell changes

Post » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:02 am

Hi everyone,

I've got a big problem with my modded Oblivion. It most always happens like this: I can load a savegame (in exterior), go to another cell and everything loads fine. However if I try to enter a third cell, the game crashes right after loading it.

Its not always that exact scenario though, it looks like it doesn't happen in interiors (I can go through a whole dungeon without crash). The problem happens only in exterior and on interior->exterior and exterior->interior change.

What's weird is that I tried in testinghall and got no problems at all: I could enter all rooms and walk through the whole exterior area without any problem.


I tried disabling all mods and it worked rather fine, so I tried to find the mod that was causing it by progressively enabling them and testing with 2 fast travel jumps. However I found that it was not a single mod's fault but rather that certain mods were only increasing the chance of a CTD. With a given set of mods it can work once and crash the next time I try.


Load order (using BOSS, not everything is activated, lots are merged/imported in the Bashed Patch):
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Oblivion.esm
You Are Here.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Qarls_Harvest.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
BetterMusicSystem.esm
Progress.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
Better Cities .esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
Fran Armor Add-on.esp
Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - MMM Patch.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
PTAutumnTrees.esp
OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
AmbientTownSounds.esp
MIS.esp
MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Rainbows.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion - Real Lights patch.esp
MIS New Sounds Optional Part - Real Lights Patch.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
AmbientDungeons.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
BAKAdventurerTorch.esp
FOV Modifier.esp
Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
Item interchange - Extraction.esp
My Voice Extender.esp
Camping.esp
Qarls_Harvest.esp
TryBeforeYouBuy.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
moDem's City Life.esp
Display Stats.esp
Get Wet - just droplets.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Enhanced Hotkeys.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Compatibility Patch - DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
AHIRUs_Glasses_v1.esp
CM_Better Wine.esp
TTB.esp
Rope Ladders v1.esp
Armamentium female.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OMOBS.esp
ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
FCOM_Cobl.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
FCOM_SaferRoads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp
TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp
FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp
FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp
ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp
ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion - MMM Patch.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion - OOO Patch.esp
FineWeapons for OOO.esp
Fransfemale.esp
LoadingScreens-OOO.esp
RustyItems for OOO.esp
OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
Artifacts.esp
ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp
(DC) Sutch Reborn.esp
ImpeREAL Shops - Restock empty Counters & Display Tables - Merged.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Tombstones-beta.esp
24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
Mighty Umbra.esp
Blood&Mud.esp
FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp
FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp
FCOM_Knights.esp
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp
road+bridges.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
SutchReborn-TheHeath patch.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp
MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - Slofs Horses - By Xtudo.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
West Roads.esp
FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
PersuasionOverhaul.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp
Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
RealisticFatigue.esp
Basic Primary Needs.esp
Roughing It.esp
ConduitMagic.esp
Mark & Recall.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Midas OscuroGems.esp
SSEE-OOO.esp
Fizzle.esp
Enchantment Enhanced.esp
Stealth Entrances v1.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
kuerteeClothingMatters.esp
TRN One of the Gang.esp
WR OotG Addon.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
Unequip Broken Armor.esp
nGCD.esp
ProgressMBSP.esp
ProgressSBSP.esp
ProgressRBSP.esp
ProgressArmorer.esp
SP1stPLegs.esp
_darker_dungeons.esp
Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - All Natural.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp
SnArrowEffects.esp
Shining Creatures.esp
Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp
DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp


OBSE plugins:
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Elys_USV
EnhancedMusicControl
FastExit2
NifScript
NifSE
OBGEv2
OBSE_Elys_Pluggy
OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue
SoundCommands
sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover
weOCPS


PC:
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CPU: Q9450 - Quad-core 2.66Ghz
GPU: GTX 480
RAM: 4Go DDR2
OS: Windows 7 x64



I thought about an out-of-memory issue, but in the task manager Oblivion.exe is still around 1.6Go used when it crashes.

Has anybody experienced a similar issue and would have a solution, know the source of the problem, or a better way to isolate it?

Thanks in advance!
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Brandon Bernardi
 
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Post » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:15 am

Is the game installed to program files folder?
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Stephani Silva
 
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Post » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:17 am

No, the game has been installed in "C:\Oblivion\", and all programs are always run as administrator.
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