CTD on start ... With no active mods?

Post » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:34 pm

Okay, so, for the fourth time in the past three years I have wiped a PC and chosen to reinstall everything including Oblivion and all of the mods I deem "necessary" with that. I started two days ago installing all the necessary utilities and the first few pieces of FCOM. Anyway, i decided yesterday that since I didn't have my mod setup done yet I would play some vanilla, so I unchecked everything in Wrye Bash except Oblivion.esm, Shivering Isles, and Knights of the Nine, and launched up Oblivion... and it crashed on launch (right at the first loading bar screen before the main menu). I tried launching Oblivion by itself and with OBSE, to the same result. I can't figure out anything I've installed that would have this effect on trying to play vanilla, nor can I recall anything that causes Oblivion to crash on launch besides a missing esm file, thus causing much confusion on my part. While I realize this is a seemingly stupid thread, and my goal isn't really to play vanilla in the future, I figured it'd probably be better to diagnose this now BEFORE I installed like twenty more mods on top. Currently I'm running Windows 7 x64 Bit, and I have Oblivion installed in a non-default directory. All I have installed so far is:

Wrye Bass
OBMM
BOSS
OBSE
Elys Uncapper
Elys Universal Silent Voice
TES4LODGen
Oblivion Stutter Remover
Fast Exit
OOO 1.33 + 1.34b5
OOO PyFFI-ed meshes
Fran's (both parts)
Fran's Unoffical Armour Addon (as well as the Bonemold Helm mod, and the Ordinators in Cyrodill mod required)
WarCry (both parts) patched to 1.85 patched to 1.9
All three Unoffocial Patches (including the FRANS/MOBS-friendly version of USIP)
And I've patched Oblivion.exe with the 4gb Ram patch
...and I think that's it...

Sooo... that's all I know. Oh magical gods of the gamesas forums, please make my problems go away! :P I'm actually just really confused as to WHY this is happening, and would greatly appreciate it if someone could offer me some help here. Thanks in advance!

R4C
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Post » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:29 pm

Have you tried to re-create your .ini file? Maybe that will solve your problem. If not, try disabling Oblivion Stutter Remover. I once had the same crash as you have because I had the wrong Heap Mode selected.

Hope it solves your problem.
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Post » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:35 pm

As Proud_NL said, try recreating the ini.

Other than that, usually missing master. Is everything green in Wrye Bash?

Deactivate all mods except Oblivion and then add one by one until you recreate the problem.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:51 am

Might wanna post a dxdiag as well. Its possible that some drivers that oblivion requires are not installed, or, did not install correctly.
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Post » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:37 pm

Have you tried to re-create your .ini file? Maybe that will solve your problem. If not, try disabling Oblivion Stutter Remover. I once had the same crash as you have because I had the wrong Heap Mode selected.

Hope it solves your problem.


Wow... I completely forgot the ini file causes Startup CTD's... haha, thank you for enlightening me; it's working again (onward to FCOM!) Now it's time for a painful side-by-side comparison of my old and new ini while I try to figure out what exactly I fixed :P

As Proud_NL said, try recreating the ini.

Other than that, usually missing master. Is everything green in Wrye Bash?

Deactivate all mods except Oblivion and then add one by one until you recreate the problem.

Might wanna post a dxdiag as well. Its possible that some drivers that oblivion requires are not installed, or, did not install correctly.


Thank you both; while I just corrected the problem (thanks to Proud_NL) I greatly appreciate your taking the time to help me.

Thanks again mates ;)

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Post » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:41 pm

I'm glad to see it solved your problem, you are most welcome! :)
Haha, indeed the side-by-side comparison is a pain in the ass, had to do a couple of times myself too.

Happy modding and gaming!
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Post » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:07 pm

Note that even Microsoft Word's comparision feature normally works well enough to easily tell you the differences.
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Post » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:26 pm

I use http://www.prestosoft.com/edp_examdiff.asp to compare text files.It allows you to load 2 files which it displays side by side and highlights any differences between them.
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