CTD when creating a savegame : IV

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:41 am

Hello,

I recently DLd the lost spires and played a bit into it without any trouble (great mod btw

). Now out on nowhere my game starts crashing on creating a save (be it autosave or manually done) in the middle (or rather at the end) of the overgrown spire dungeon (the one with the miners at the beginning). I have already searched trough some sources to see if this is common, but as it seems only a few had something like that (and at that time no solution, or none posted). I have already tried to following:

- move lost spires somewhat down the loadorder (this month BOSS masterlist btw.)
- moved it at the last position
- deselected some other mods (some said UOP deactivating could help in an other lost spire CTD, didn't helped here)
- turned autosave off, left dungeon, waited for several days on a woldmap place as far as possible away from the dungeon.
- tried old saves and saves with another char to see in saving might messed up in general now (all works fine there)
- reboot my PC
- cursed childish

Help :sad:

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:20 am

whats your load order like?

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:07 am

Open console and write:
TAI
TSCR
COC Weye
PCB

Now try to save.
Does that work?

Also, have you tried the Remove Bloat using Wrye Bash?

» Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:24 pm

The console has not worked. The modlist/order is:

Spoiler

Oblivion.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmCobl Main.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmArmamentarium.esmArtifacts.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Guards.espFCOM_Francescos.espFCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.espFCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espMoist - Gate Room.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.espalllll61-Saint Silver armor.espColourwheels sixy Lingerie HGEC.espDarkIllusionSchoolUniform.espDread Knight Armor.espHellSpawnDaedric for Exnem.espKDClothCirclets.espKafei's Circlets Reforged.espLadyDeath.espReznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].espHGEC Underwear.espHGEC_AmazonArmor.espArmamentium female.espR18PN - Lingeries.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espCheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.espFCOM_BobsArmory.espOblivion WarCry EV.espFCOM_WarCry.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espArmamentariumArtifacts.espArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.espFCOM_Cobl.espFCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_RealSwords.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espArmamentariumLL4OOO.espArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.espFransfemale.espOOO-WaterFish.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.espArtifacts.espArtifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.espAbriael_Human.espKvatch Rebuilt.espKvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.espKvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esplatexshopstore.espeyja.espza_bankmod.espBrumaMGRestored.espCastle Wolfspike2.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espP1DkeyChain.espMCaleb's_Decompose_Corpse_v1.2.espSigilStoneSelector.espRen_Soya_KD's.espFrancesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espMax_Ability_Modifiers-2455.espMIK_SummonCompanionRing_v1.0.espSoulReaverMod.espColourWheels_sixy_casual_wear.espGrowlfs Royo Adaptations.espüberall_Truhe-8116.espMM_FeletheusAspar[Merchant]1.0.espDicekit sixy Costumes.espThe Lost Spires.esp

Have not tried the bash yet. My wyre bash experience sadly is next to zero.

» Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:09 pm

So your old saves are working fine?

If so, then that means that your current savegame is partially corrupted. I don't see much you can do to fix things then to toss it and revert to your last good save. You could try using Bash to de-bloat but I'm not 100% certain on that working.

This is most likely not an issue caused by The Lost Spires, sometimes Oblivion just bugs out and saves your game badly. The same issue is present in Fallout 3, too.

» Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:56 pm

Also, have you tried the Remove Bloat using Wrye Bash?

If it is that in the repair hair/fatctions/abomb section it did not helped. At least it doesn't found bloat. The wyre installer in its infinite wisdom descided to install it partially in german.

This is most likely not an issue caused by The Lost Spires, sometimes Oblivion just bugs out and saves your game badly. The same issue is present in Fallout 3, too.

That would be my next try

» Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:41 pm

Have not tried the bash yet. My wyre bash experience sadly is next to zero.

What the...?
You're using FCOM and not Wrye Bash? FCOM requires Wrye Bash to make a Bashed Patch!
Now wonder you have problems.
I suggest that if you really want to use FCOM you just scrap your current game, learn how to use Wrye Bash and then strart a new game.
Or else try removing FCOM from your current game and see if that helps.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:24 am

What the...?
You're using FCOM and not Wrye Bash? FCOM requires Wrye Bash to make a Bashed Patch!
Now wonder you have problems.
I suggest that if you really want to use FCOM you just scrap your current game, learn how to use Wrye Bash and then strart a new game.
Or else try removing FCOM from your current game and see if that helps.

The first problem in a 276 hour save which worked flawless until that one prob arised? I'm not convinced that it is a wyre problem, but'll try the bash-active-savegame route from the devnull page. A new start of oblivion will probably not happen before 2020; to much time in the actual game invested already.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:03 am

The first problem in a 276 hour save which worked flawless until that one prob arised? I'm not convinced that it is a wyre problem, but'll try the bash-active-savegame route from the devnull page. A new start of oblivion will probably not happen before 2020; to much time in the actual game invested already.

The crashes may not be related to FCOM, but without a Bashed Patch you are not really playing an FCOM game, but a "whatever mod happens to load last wins" game and you'll never experience a large portion of the total FCOM package.