every time i try to go to chorrol ( fast travel to stables and weynon priory ) im fine till i turn around to face the wilderness then its a Crash to desktop. im also using wyre brash OBMM and OBSE all latest versions

heres my load order~

Oblivion.esm
Armamentarium.esm
EnhancedWeather.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
ArmamentariumFran.esm
CM Partners.esm
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
GKs Max Merchant Gold.esp
javbmb.esp
arme - excalibur.esp
tsuguri_complete.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
Ranger_Sword.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
Arrow_of_Light.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp
Doomshard Bow.esp
Knights.esp
RunedRobes.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
lineagesls.esp
Francesco's Optional Files.esp
Nicos Dreadweave Armor_Light.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
Tabaxi_Race_Default.esp
2680twohand.esp
Fantasy Mod.esp
RSArmor.esp
Hatred Rising.esp
Sword of the Rivan King.esp
OBForceProd.esp
CinthorcSword.esp
ActorsInMadness.esp
RideableChochobo.esp
1masamune.esp
Seph's new animations.esp
Defensive Katana v1.1.esp
TheHolyBlade.esp
Blue Destiny's Paladin Armor.esp
Wyrmfang.esp
DeliveranceFire.esp
Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp
Angeleron.esp
Soulshade Dragonslayer Sword.esp
Fantasy Sword.esp
Joe's Energy Bow.esp
AL_Maverick.esp
Tehgnark.esp
idkrrr_sarameyesNhairs4originalrace.esp
1AlexscorpionSilverDragonKatana.esp
bustersword.esp
StaffofGaia.esp
XSPipeMod.esp
Paladin Spells.esp
Colourwheels sixy Female NPCs.esp
Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp
Nocturne.esp
ArmamentariumLL.esp
ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp
ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp
ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
Hemingweys Capes.esp
Tyrael Armor.esp
Hemingweys NPC Capes.esp
CarsomyrSword.esp
Exodarlifestaff.esp
MidasSpells.esp
300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp
Stylish Jump.esp
Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp
SW01.esp
sixycompanion.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
AinmhiRace.esp
IWR-Windows.esp
IWR-Lights.esp
Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Heavy-Alt-helm.esp
Medieval Shields.esp
Better_Water-1830.esp
EnhancedWeather.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp

Rerun BOSS. Those MMM plugins are in the WRONG place.

Finishing the Installation - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall <-- Do not skip anything, especially the 'Lock Times' references (hint, hint.)


Edit: Popular Outdated Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods <-- remove or trade up

Edit: Stabilization Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/stabilizationmods <-- remove the KT_CustomRaceFix.esp and use the UOP instead

trying to run BOSS but it wont let me extract the RAR. into the oblivion data folder atleast it will extract everything but the batch file.

I do not know how one would manage that. Do you have 7-zip? Google it, and download it, if you do not.

Is Oblivion installed in its default directory, and are you using Windows 7 or Vista?

If so, try reinstalling somewhere outside of Program Files... or Program Files (x86), depending. Somewhere else, is what matters, like C:\Games\(etc.) or the like.

If not, don't mind me.

ok i got the BOSS working via moving it to another folder. i did read the BOSS log for anything with incompatibilities which i could find none i locked the load times and ran it and tried to go back to chorrol only to turn around to another CTD :\

Well, that's still a step in the right direction. Please, http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/postlo, and I hope you do not have a bad spawn point... Did you try http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/regenoblivionini?

codebox]Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.4]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
04 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
06 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
07 ArmamentariumFran.esm
08 CM Partners.esm
09 Colourwheels sixy Female NPCs.esp
0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B LoadingScreens.esp
0C EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.3.5]
0D Better_Water-1830.esp
0E IWR-Lights.esp
0F IWR-Windows.esp
10 2680twohand.esp
11 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.4]
12 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.0.2]
13 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
14 DLCSpellTomes.esp
15 1masamune.esp
16 arme - excalibur.esp
17 Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Heavy-Alt-helm.esp
18 Arrow_of_Light.esp
19 Angeleron.esp
1A CapesandCloaks.esp
1B CarsomyrSword.esp
1C Nicos Dreadweave Armor_Light.esp
1D Fantasy Mod.esp
1E Hemingweys NPC Capes.esp [Version 1.02]
1F javbmb.esp
20 Medieval Shields.esp
21 Doomshard Bow.esp
22 Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp
23 Tyrael Armor.esp
24 Wyrmfang.esp
25 XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
26 DLCThievesDen.esp
27 Francesco's Optional Files.esp
28 ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35]
29 ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
2A ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35]
2B ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
2C ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35]
2D Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
30 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
31 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p]
32 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
33 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
34 Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3F AL_Maverick.esp
40 Nocturne.esp
41 RunedRobes.esp
42 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
43 DLCFrostcrag.esp
44 Knights.esp
45 Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
46 mythsandlegends.esp
47 Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp
48 Paladin Spells.esp
49 MidasSpells.esp
4A 300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp
4B Seph's new animations.esp
4C SW01.esp
4D actors_in_charge.esp
4E ActorsInMadness.esp
4F Stylish Jump.esp
50 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
51 tkHairPack01.esp
52 babehair_EV.esp
53 idkrrr_sarameyesNhairs4originalrace.esp
54 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
55 AinmhiRace.esp
56 Tabaxi_Race_Default.esp
57 CM Partners.esp
58 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
59 CM Partners NPC.esp
5A CM Partners More NPCs.esp
5B CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
5C CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
5D sixycompanion.esp
5E KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
5F Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
60 Hemingweys Capes.esp [Version 1.02]
61 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
62 GKs Max Merchant Gold.esp
63 tsuguri_complete.esp
64 Ranger_Sword.esp
65 Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp
66 lineagesls.esp
67 RSArmor.esp
68 Hatred Rising.esp
69 Sword of the Rivan King.esp
6A OBForceProd.esp
6B CinthorcSword.esp
6C RideableChochobo.esp
6D Defensive Katana v1.1.esp
6E TheHolyBlade.esp
6F Blue Destiny's Paladin Armor.esp
70 DeliveranceFire.esp
71 Soulshade Dragonslayer Sword.esp
72 Fantasy Sword.esp
73 Joe's Energy Bow.esp
74 Tehgnark.esp
75 1AlexscorpionSilverDragonKatana.esp
76 bustersword.esp
77 StaffofGaia.esp
78 Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp
79 Exodarlifestaff.esp
[/codebox]

i am now getting a CTD just going to the stables outside of chorrol after deleting my oblivion ini. i also have installed the lated version of MMM

Mods in the wrong place: <-- I recommend deactivating these for now, but you can use the LO template on the http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder page to place them in more appropriate locations.

62 GKs Max Merchant Gold.esp
63 tsuguri_complete.esp
64 Ranger_Sword.esp
65 Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp
66 lineagesls.esp
67 RSArmor.esp
68 Hatred Rising.esp
69 Sword of the Rivan King.esp
6A OBForceProd.esp
6B CinthorcSword.esp
6C RideableChochobo.esp
6D Defensive Katana v1.1.esp
6E TheHolyBlade.esp
6F Blue Destiny's Paladin Armor.esp
70 DeliveranceFire.esp
71 Soulshade Dragonslayer Sword.esp
72 Fantasy Sword.esp
73 Joe's Energy Bow.esp
74 Tehgnark.esp
75 1AlexscorpionSilverDragonKatana.esp
76 bustersword.esp
77 StaffofGaia.esp
78 Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp
79 Exodarlifestaff.esp


Edit: I linked the Popular Outdated Mods page because you use IWR. Remove that for now, and see that page if you want a much more optimized alternative.

Edit: I guess the KT Custom Race Fix comment went ignored as well...the UOP...


Edit: Conflicting cosmetic mods... They all make changes to the vanilla races. Either actually read the Finishing the Installation page I linked, which would allow you to use most of these together, or choose one of the below.
50 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
51 tkHairPack01.esp
52 babehair_EV.esp
53 idkrrr_sarameyesNhairs4originalrace.esp
54 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

ok i did a full uninstall and reinstall this time using FCOM it works great.. now im getting random CTD's when i play heres the new and i beleive correct load order

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.4]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]08  CM Partners.esm09  Colourwheels sixy Female NPCs.esp0A  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0B  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0C  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp11  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp12  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp13  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]14  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  2680twohand.esp17  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]18  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]19  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1A  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1B  DLCSpellTomes.esp1C  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]1D  1masamune.esp1E  arme - excalibur.esp1F  Arrow_of_Light.esp20  Angeleron.esp21  CapesandCloaks.esp22  CarsomyrSword.esp23  Nicos Dreadweave Armor_Light.esp24  javbmb.esp25  Doomshard Bow.esp26  Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp27  Tyrael Armor.esp28  Wyrmfang.esp29  DLCThievesDen.esp2A  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp2F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]31  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  AL_Maverick.esp36  Nocturne.esp37  RunedRobes.esp38  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp39  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3A  DLCFrostcrag.esp3B  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3C  Knights.esp3D  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]3E  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  mythsandlegends.esp40  Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp41  Paladin Spells.esp42  MidasSpells.esp43  300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp44  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp45  CM Partners.esp46  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp47  CM Partners NPC.esp48  CM Partners More NPCs.esp49  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp4A  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp4B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp4C  tsuguri_complete.esp4D  OBForceProd.esp4E  RideableChochobo.esp4F  Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp50  Hatred Rising.esp51  CinthorcSword.esp52  Defensive Katana v1.1.esp53  DeliveranceFire.esp54  Tehgnark.esp55  bustersword.esp56  Exodarlifestaff.esp57  Ranger_Sword.esp58  lineagesls.esp59  Sword of the Rivan King.esp5A  Fantasy Sword.esp5B  Joe's Energy Bow.esp5C  Soulshade Dragonslayer Sword.esp5D  StaffofGaia.esp5E  RSArmor.esp5F  Blue Destiny's Paladin Armor.esp

04 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm <-- Remove.
0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] <--3.2.6 is out now.



And everything after the bash patch needs to be manually re-ordered by you. Bash patch..should always be last, with a few exceptions.

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.4]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]07  CM Partners.esm08  Colourwheels sixy Female NPCs.esp09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0A  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0B  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp11  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp12  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]14  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.3.5]16  2680twohand.esp17  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]18  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]19  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1A  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1B  DLCSpellTomes.esp1C  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]1D  1masamune.esp1E  arme - excalibur.esp1F  Arrow_of_Light.esp20  Angeleron.esp21  CapesandCloaks.esp22  CarsomyrSword.esp23  Nicos Dreadweave Armor_Light.esp24  javbmb.esp25  Doomshard Bow.esp26  Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp27  Tyrael Armor.esp28  tsuguri_complete.esp29  RideableChochobo.esp2A  Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp2B  Hatred Rising.esp2C  CinthorcSword.esp2D  Defensive Katana v1.1.esp2E  DeliveranceFire.esp2F  Tehgnark.esp30  bustersword.esp31  Exodarlifestaff.esp32  Ranger_Sword.esp33  lineagesls.esp34  Sword of the Rivan King.esp35  Fantasy Sword.esp36  Joe's Energy Bow.esp37  Soulshade Dragonslayer Sword.esp38  StaffofGaia.esp39  RSArmor.esp3A  OBForceProd.esp3B  Blue Destiny's Paladin Armor.esp3C  Wyrmfang.esp3D  DLCThievesDen.esp3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]40  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp41  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]42  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp43  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]45  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]48  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  AL_Maverick.esp4A  Nocturne.esp4B  RunedRobes.esp4C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp4D  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4E  DLCFrostcrag.esp4F  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]50  Knights.esp51  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]52  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  mythsandlegends.esp54  Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp55  Paladin Spells.esp56  MidasSpells.esp57  300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp58  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp59  CM Partners.esp5A  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp5B  CM Partners NPC.esp5C  CM Partners More NPCs.esp5D  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp5E  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp5F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ok i managed to get to chorrol i went around weynon priory and walked along the wall to the entrance which was fine but when i went to the cross roads i got a CTD again.. very odd

Obtaining your load order in the way already suggested as optimal (and then posting it, naturally) would be more useful, because it shows what has been merged, deactivated, etc.

It could be that the Bashed Patch has not been rebuilt properly and/or other plugins have not been deactivated where necessary, etc. ... in which case, these would be the things to do next.

Hrm. Is one or more of those weapon/armor mods you have, place a container of sorts in chorrol or something?

Just a guess.

Ah yes, how could I forget. Rebuild the patch.

i can go in chorrol i can go around the the cross roads but i cant go on them? is it something to do with the cells? but whati have no clue and as for mods i dont think any of them affect that specific area :\

feel free to face palm...


how to i build a bashed patch? >.>

So you haven't yet?

...

Ah.

Yeah, that probably explains at least some of your woes so far. Basically, you right click on the Bashed Patch (in Wrye Bash) and choose "Rebuild". There is... a little more to it than that, but there is a lot of help out there, and here as well no doubt, when it comes to the details.


edit: Also, see the sig.

ITS BEEN FIXED! HUZZAH! i created a bashed patch which fixed it also showed in BOSS what mod was cuasing the trouble. im so happy right now thanks guys!

"I'm so happy I could just tear out your intestines and strangle you with them!"

why remove the add-on.esm?

Because MMM already contains all the creatures plus more..That is why..