Okay we have to calm down...

1) TES IV Oblivion was in creation right after Morrowind (2002) and released in 2006. Four years later!

2) In 2004, Bethesda began to develop Fallout 3 (phase of preproduction until the release of Oblivion in 2006) and released it in 2008. Four years later!

3) In 2006, Zenimax has trademarked the name of Skyrim. So, if they knew the name and the place of there next big game at this moment, they knew more or less the story and the background of the game. So they have started to work on since 2006 (phase of preproduction since the release of Fallout 3 in 2008).

2010 = Four years later! Isn't it?


PS: I doubt they release TES V in 2010 but this is not impossible!

Fallout is in the equation of time now. Thanks to Fallout 3, there has only really been 1 or 2 years of development time spent on TES V. There couldn't have been more than a year of development that included most of the development team and I don't think TES V has been worked on at all since two years ago.

No, unfortunately it isn't possible. As you can see in the first post, in a recent interview Todd Howard said they've pretty much just been working on it since October 2008. Sure, there was probably some preproduction, but the serious work didn't start until a little more than a year ago. So no, it really isn't possible for TESV to come out in 2010.

Quiet you!
Your cold reasoning is ruining wildly hopeful speculation!

Fallout 3 was in preproduction during two years and in full production during two more years. So it could be the same with TES V. And when I'm saying that it is not impossible that the game come out in 2010, I mean in late 2010. (exactly two years after the release of Fallout 3)

I can see it being announced very late in 2010, but based on the (admittedly slim) evidence we have, if the game is released in 2010 I have serious doubt that it will be good. Bethesda takes 3-4 years to make each of their games, and so far they've only been actually making the game for a year. 2010 would be way too soon.

You can announce a game without having spent any development time at all on it, I'm not looking for a release date, just something like Todd Howard stepping outside and saying "TESV is being made", that alone would turn the forums supernova.

Yeah, that would be great. Though I wouldn't want them to release any pictures or videos until they were ready to.

He has an opinion let him have it. I really have no clue when TESV will come out . Personally I don't trust Bethesda's words until I hear TESV is coming.

But. . . wouldn't that be Bethesda's word telling you it's coming?

Well Bethesda lies about release dates A LOT. For example, when Broken Steel came out, Bethesda said there were no more DLC coming out, but at that same time there were rumors of Point Lookout. And lo-and-behold, it came out. Bethesda denies EVERYTHING until THEY'RE ready to announce something. That also means anything they say in press releases regarding future games could be a lie too.

That's exactly my point.

Bethesda doesn't say they have something until it's done, or just being polished. They did with Oblivion and BAM! there goes an entire city.

? Totally confused by your logic........I just know it will be a fine day when it's released and the forums will crash and we will have to control the new people.

Poor Sutch :nope:

This waiting is why I am angry with Fallout 3. I love Fallout 3 and it is a great game(but unplayable for ps3 players such as myself, thanks to poorly-tested DLC), but it has delayed TES V :banghead:. I would be expecting TES V either this or next year if Fallout 3 was never made. That brings me to my point. TES V will not be released in 2010 and likely will not be released in 2011 either. If it was released in 2010 or 2011, then I wouldn't expect it to be good, I would expect it to be rushed.

We? You're still young whipper snapper! :whisper:

Yep. Apparently it's been relocated to hammerfell.

Wait, really? Where did you see that?

I think the preproduction is kinda unimportant, what matters is the actual fulltime development time, at least when it comes to release date speculation. It only been 1.5 years since Fallout 3 was released, not enough time to make a new large game, especially not as Todd hinted that they are redoing a lot of tech while Fallout 3 pretty much just used what Oblivion used.

So here's my list!

1) TES IV Oblivion was in creation right after Morrowind (june 2002) and released in march 2006, and incorperated a lot of new tech with Radiant AI, Havok, facegen, Speedtree and so on. Almost 4 years later.

2) Full production of Fallout 3 started in april 2006 and released it in october 2008, took only about 2.5 years later seeing it pretty much just re-use the Oblivion technology. I also wonder how much time they need to build a wasteland game world compared to a living fantasy game world, I would guess it takes less time as well.

3) Full production of game X started in november 2009, and as Todd Howard recently said, it will again have a lot of it's tech redone and only been worked on for slightly over a year. I think it's a good chance that we will have to wait another 2-2.5 years until the game is done, about a total amount of ~3.5 years of full development time.

So my guess is 2012, but of course I could be very wrong about that

Sounds reasonable.

What? two thousand and tweeeeeeeelve. I dont want to wait that looooooong. I want it nooooooow. lol

I think it's going to come out much sooner than anyone here is anticipating.

Allow me to explain. . .
You said, "He has an opinion let him have it. I really have no clue when TESV will come out . Personally I don't trust Bethesda's words until I hear TESV is coming."

Meaning you don't trust Bethesda's word on things unless it's announced. But who would announce it? Bethesda; and you don't trust them, remember?

They've lied/fabircated/reconsidred before, why would you trust it this time around if you don't trust 'em any other time?

Well, 'Bethesda' was a poor choice of word, but I don't find it hard to understand their points. When TESV is officially announced, there will come a press release with it too. So the trust is placed on the press releases and not the individual employees.

But of course, press releases can be wrong too. PSP Oblivion was officially announced, but then cancelled and never released.