Cursing

Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:10 am

:rofl:
Pathetic.


This! Let's laugh at the old woman!
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Post » Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:57 pm

Given that the fantasy setting is detached from the reality we're used to daily, cursing is a delicate subject since many curse words bring with them an attachment back to reality, all the while we are trying to distance ourselves from while playing the Elder Scrolls games. If cursing had its place from words that compliment the time, then I could see it implemented to a degree among the darker aspects of the land; however, if words were used that immediately reminded me of South Central, for example, then I would definitely push for a no.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:56 am

Given that the fantasy setting is detached from the reality we're used to daily, cursing is a delicate subject since many curse words bring with them an attachment back to reality, all the while we are trying to distance ourselves from while playing the Elder Scrolls games. If cursing had its place from words that compliment the time, then I could see it implemented to a degree among the darker aspects of the land; however, if words were used that immediately reminded me of South Central, for example, then I would definitely push for a no.

Well said!
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:10 am

I don't see whats so bad about cursing. [censored]. See? No one is hurt or (except a few extremely sensitive people).
It does however hurt when someone stabs you in the eye.
And about nudity, I mean, some preteens are of course going to play this game, and even though that isn't a reason to censor anything, but there isn't really a reason to have nudity.
I say, unless there is a point, do away with it.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:03 am

This! Let's laugh at the old woman!


Theres a very good chance Im older :/
But I think people should live in the real world and not place some ridiculous hangups to what in essence is just a word people use.
It would be very jarring to find myself in a sort of Skyrim where people get eaten by dragons while a civil war is going on and have them only say things like 'oh my'.
Now in my personal life I am not in the habit of swearing, but Im certainly not going to frown on people that do. Unless its not so much an explitive of emotion as a derogatory or racist term.
People are dying of hunger in a world where other people die of being too fat. Unjust wars are being fought and the environment by now is polluted beyond hope of repair. In this world of ours there are a whole lot of things more important to get upset about than people using a word.
For me, there is only so much I can really care about, Im just human.
And I would rather care about things that actually matter such as social inequality than something trivial like language.
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Post » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:19 pm

Just think of how much swearing you hear on a day-to-day basis. It'd be insane to go out of your way to remove it.


I'll hear someone curse occasionally, but certainly not every day ...
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:21 am

Theres a very good chance Im older :/
But I think people should live in the real world and not place some ridiculous hangups to what in essence is just a word people use.
It would be very jarring to find myself in a sort of Skyrim where people get eaten by dragons while a civil war is going on and have them only say things like 'oh my'.
Now in my personal life I am not in the habit of swearing, but Im certainly not going to frown on people that do. Unless its not so much an explitive of emotion as a derogatory or racist term.
People are dying of hunger in a world where other people die of being too fat. Unjust wars are being fought and the environment by now is polluted beyond hope of repair. In this world of ours there are a whole lot of things more important to get upset about than people using a word.
For me, there is only so much I can really care about, Im just human.
And I would rather care about things that actually matter such as social inequality than something trivial like language.

Yes! A civil war is going on and dragons are invading. There will be and should be cursing.
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Post » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:53 pm

"S?nn av en tispe"

Nordic swearing :)
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:20 am

Yes! A civil war is going on and dragons are invading. There will be and should be cursing.


Thats what I meant. Oblivion was relatively peaceful for the people, Fallout was hell on earth, and Skrim should be "Holy [censored] a dragon just ate my family."
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:25 am

Given that the fantasy setting is detached from the reality we're used to daily, cursing is a delicate subject since many curse words bring with them an attachment back to reality, all the while we are trying to distance ourselves from while playing the Elder Scrolls games. If cursing had its place from words that compliment the time, then I could see it implemented to a degree among the darker aspects of the land; however, if words were used that immediately reminded me of South Central, for example, then I would definitely push for a no.


I don't find being immersed in an alternate reality to be distancing from our current one. If there is things such as swearing that reminds me of my current one I find that more fascinating, Why? Because if it reminds me of my current reality and I look at it like, Wow, This is relatable yet completely different. Then i feel like I'm not so much playing as a character but as myself in a world that is similar to my own but in completely different settings doing what I would probably be doing if that was my current reality. Crazy as it sounds, If i got bored in medieval times I'd probably mass murder people until guards stopped me.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:50 am

"S?nn av en tispe"

Nordic swearing :)

This I am more than OK with.

ps. nvm!
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:01 pm

The only people I know that use the word "opine" are lawyers and law students. Which is it my friend?
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:00 am

This I am more than OK with.

ps im not old, my birth date is not accurate on these forums, only 22 years young!


I tried to say "son of a b*tch in Norwegian. Google translate fails me again. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:34 am

I would love to see the return of the Morrowind swear words like N'wah and Fetcher, but real life swear words? no, it doesn't fit the setting, as most of our swear words are connected to real life things, like religion.

I'd say, let Bethesda make their own swear words, like they did in Morrowind! :)
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:03 am

Given that the fantasy setting is detached from the reality we're used to daily, cursing is a delicate subject since many curse words bring with them an attachment back to reality, all the while we are trying to distance ourselves from while playing the Elder Scrolls games.

I would agree with this, but unfortunately I see so many people crying for photorealistic graphics I just can't.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:32 am

I hope not, keep that filth out of my game please. Nudity and gore is fine, but cursing is just so out of place to me, besides, I dont want to hear it.

Hopefully its more on the lines of what MW did with native curse words like N'wah and Fetcher.


Fake curse words are fantastic! Smeg and Frak come to mind! Although I appreciate your opinion, it does seem weird that youre ok with the 2 awesome Bs(boobies and blood) but are irked by words alone. Then again Im ok with all 3. But thats why God gave us opinions.(so we wouldnt get bored talking to each other... lol)


I hope there is some cursing. To implement swearing effectively, curses must be used sparingly and appropriately. Profanity honestly can add to dialogue when it's used well. And anyway, we're going to be dealing with a rowdy lot of drunken Nords. I'd think some of them would be angry or rude drunks!


This!


Given that the fantasy setting is detached from the reality we're used to daily, cursing is a delicate subject since many curse words bring with them an attachment back to reality, all the while we are trying to distance ourselves from while playing the Elder Scrolls games. If cursing had its place from words that compliment the time, then I could see it implemented to a degree among the darker aspects of the land; however, if words were used that immediately reminded me of South Central, for example, then I would definitely push for a no.


But isnt everyone talking english already. I look at it as being that we are getting a translation of whats being said in Nirn. Like translators were "used" in Star Trek, regardless of whats being said, you would HEAR english.

I do understand your concern. If I start hearing a Cuban Argonian,(swimming and all, lol) that would raise some eyebrows for me. Alot of curse words are just descriptions of things or actions that also exist in Nirn. Like six, dogs and defecation. But yeah, if a Nord came of like one of the Diaz brothers I wouldnt know whether to laugh or cry.(Diaz brothers are MMA fighters from the 209)


I'll hear someone curse occasionally, but certainly not every day ...


Well, my Lady, perhaps we should hang out. LOL
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:46 am

Adding things like this just because it's "mature" and "because you can" is never a good reason.


Hmmm....

Let us wonder.
Do people curse in real life? They sure do. It's an emotial reaction. it conveys emotion. Would you imagine the lower ranks of Skyrim society not using vulgar language? Is that sensible? Try taking a stroll around the docks.

One is entitled to exert his peculiar taste when it comes to profanity. But please do not attempt to wipe profanity out of Skyrim claiming it does not partain there. It most certainly does.

Should Skyrim go Pulp Fiction Tarantino ? I don't think so nor am I expecting it to based on Betehsda's past prudeness.
Used sparingly, like a spice,vulgar language is very much appropriate. For a more pristine discussion on the matter i'd recommend reading
?Self-editing for fiction writers? by Renni Browne and Dave King.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:27 am

The only people I know that use the word "opine" are lawyers and law students. Which is it my friend?


Im a classic Cuban Bullpooper/Philosopher. :intergalactic:

edit: lol got caught cursing in my own curse thread... :celebration:
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:27 am

they curse in Game of Thrones and it sounds 100% fine/natural. It takes place in a gritty + low fantasy setting like Skyrim.


Imo it adds to the gritty/dire tone.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:44 am

Hmmm....

Let us wonder.
Do people curse in real life? They sure do. It's an emotial reaction. it conveys emotion. Would you imagine the lower ranks of Skyrim society not using vulgar language? Is that sensible? Try taking a stroll around the docks.

One is entitled to exert his peculiar taste when it comes to profanity. But please do not attempt to wipe profanity out of Skyrim claiming it does not partain there. It more certainly does.

Should Skyrim go Pulp Fiction Tarantino ? I don't think so nor am I expecting it to based on Betehsda's past prudeness.
Used sparingly, like a spice,vulgar language is very much appropriate. For a more pristine discussion on the matter i'd recommend reading
?Self-editing for fiction writers? by Renni Browne and Dave King.


Cool... I will have to look into that book Skyrimer. Sounds very interesting.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:38 am

Hell N'wah.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:56 am

they curse in Game of Thrones and it sounds 100% fine/natural. It takes place in a gritty + low fantasy setting like Skyrim.


Imo it adds to the gritty/dire tone.


Poopcycle! I should have though as that as an example. True enough, fantasy is littered with OUR own language, including curses. I dont see how generic cursing would at all pull someone out of immersion. Now if you start using words like car, laser or mcdonalds in Skyrim, i would understand.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:40 am

Cool... I will have to look into that book Skyrimer. Sounds very interesting.


Not sure whether you're being sarcastic. :biggrin:
Just in case...
Buy the book if you're interested in fiction writing / editing. It's great.

Their point is four letter words have a place in fiction - albeit a small one.
Overused they loose their punch and just become a nuissance one glides over.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:15 pm

I think the "curse" words that you will most commonly hear will probably be "damn" and "bastard" everything is either to modern or wouldn't fit.
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Post » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:44 am

jMinor swearing is okay and I like the fake swear words. as long as they don't swera alot, I think it would be better to have it than to not have it--denying what is real hardly makes for a good game or story,. imo
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