In my opinion, up all costs by at least a factor of 10. Not 500 gold and the merchant has 500 more, but 5000 gold and the merchant has 500 (five hundred) more. Since you're probably going to him quite often, it will pay back.
In case of Investment two, at least 10k, but only put like 1% per merchant weekly. If you have a lot of merchants under your finger, it'll start being too much very fast.

Maybe call the business publication "The Tower Street Journal"

Hi, will you be including an ini with this mod to let users turn on/off the different features or adjust how much they affect things?
In the sense of how Living Economy let you would choose what you wanted and didn't want, but going back and forth between it's many in-game menus was a real pain. Somebody had made an ini for it that was easier to use, but I think it has some problem with not being able to affect a game that already had Living Economy loaded(it was for first time run only, I'm guessing becuse LE wasn't OBSE written).

Yes, there's going to be an INI
It is currently set up for the following :

Days until Interest is paid by the bank
Days until the town Economy is recalculated (individual for each town)
If Salaries can be paid
Days until Salaries are Paid

I plan to add a setting to tell if Money is paid by shops invested in. As more stuff is added, more settings will hopefully be added

On cool. Will you be able to turn some of the more fancy features off if you just want basic stuff like merchants gold adjusting based on your purchases and sales?

Most of it, I think. As it stands, it isn't possible to turn off the general economic system, but I should be able to code it so that these aren't applied; I'll have to check and get back to you to confirm. Obviously the Bank CAN'T be turned on and off, being a building, and same with the Money conversions right now.

This sounds really great and will hopefully be a great replacement for the buggy Living Economy that I never liked that much.

Keep up the good work

Ah ok, thanks for the heads up. I didn't realise it also had a bank, I better go check the OP again.

This looks like a great mod, and a replacement for Living Economy, which means I'd be able to cross replacing Living Economy off my to-do list. One thing, though...


These should be a different mod, or at the very least be 100% disable-able. Controlling merchant resources is one application, controlling player income is another; there are multiple alternate solutions to the latter, and this is one of those situations where flavor is more important than mechanics to many.

EDIT: Ditto on the mercantile-perk salaries. That should never have been in LE to begin with.

EDIT 2: Oh, I see, this is going to include the bank... hrm. Does the bank note mechanic directly interact with your other scripts? If not, there's no reason to have the two in the same ESP. If so, I wonder if the bank notes could be put in a mutual-dependent ESM, so that merchants and banks can both use them, but each is independent of the other?

Well, that's certainly do-able, and in progress

I'm working on the following interpretation :

Cyrodiil Economic Overhaul - Main.esm ; Fluctuating town Economies
Cyrodiil Economic Overhaul - Weighted Gold.esp ; Makes Gold weighted/droppable
Cyrodiil Economic Overhaul - Guild Salaries.esp ; Gives Guild Salaries
Cyrodiil Economic Overhaul - Imperial Pension ; Gives the Imperial Pension

Do you need betatesters ???

Thanks for the offer, I'll probably take you up on it when the time comes

Right now I've had to remove the Expert and Master Perks from Vanilla Oblivion since the way they work (permanently affecting the Barter Gold) causes errors in CEO. I'm not sure yet whether to put in new Perks (if I can think of something suitable), or try and simulate the old ones (though how I'd do that I don't know yet, except for the 'Investment' method I outlined earlier).

Right now I've got it all split off nicely. I need to rebuild the Bank, and the the Salaries quests as additional .esp files.

So this will be like the CEO of Oblivion? :hehe:

if there is going to be taxes on horses i think its only fair that there be a "cash for clunkers" option. that way you can trade in prior malbero's horse for a more environmently friendly anvil horse and get a subsidized discount.

:woot: Can't wait.

Will you add patches so that merchant from mods are affected by this? Blood&Mud and Windfall comes to mind for example.

They are automatically affected, due to how the Script works (or should be anyway)

Great mod but I agree with this one. No need for an extra income in this mod, imo.
edit: Hehe. Should read the full thread. Thanks for that.

I hope the progress is steady?

I like the idea of weighted gold, i assume you'll be doing a kind of banking network in the game?

Eventually, as an optional extra. I have it built originally, but need to remake it slightly for the new version.

Download Link : http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=5651

How drastic is the whole "economy gets worse as Oblivion crisis continues?"

And how does it work?

It might have a negative effect on people that wait on the main quest after Kvatch (to do side quests or just loaf around).

edit: Maybe you could make it just for the main quest where you have to close each town's Oblivion gate before getting extra soldiers to Bruma.

If the effect is customisable in an ini, that'd be fine. Personally, I use a MQ delayer, something everyone who doesn't want to do the MQ should do.

It should be -1 to the economy per day; if everything is working correctly, it shouldn't have too great an effect unless you leave it for months/game years.

I am really looking forward to this mod, especially as an upgrade over a slightly buggy Living Economy. I'd also love to see all my mod's custom merchants stop having infinite gold

is it possible to affect diferent merchants seperately?
example:

the Oblivion crisis causes sales/income to drop for merchants, pawnshops, clothing stores, jewelry stores, etc.
but is causes a sales/income increase for the smiths, armorers, fighters guild, etc.

know what i mean?