The Daedric Scurge is a One Hit Wonder against daedra. To prevent it being used by daedra on other daedra, it was cursed so that daedra cannot even pick it up without being barrel shot straight into the void.


Now, The "New" sheogorath was once a mortal, and still has a mortal fascade--- but is also "A daedric prince" at the same time. I am curious to know what would happen if the new sheogorath tried to pick the thing up.....


;)


Any takers?

The universe would end.

No.

If it isn't debatable where he "apotheosed" into Daedra-hood or not, I'd say he'd be fine.

I haven't played SI or even beat Oblivion.

Should be right, actually. Technically, the Champion is not a Daedra. He never apothesised, so he would be able to use the Daedric Scourge without it being a problem. Of course, this is just what I think. We should probably get someone more knowledgable on the subject.

That would depend if you really buy into the "Champion of Cyrodiil became Sheogorath" thing people seem to have going on. Which I pretty much disagree with. If I were the Champion of Cyrodiil, star-blessed with unique power, I'd so not go for being part of the system and becoming a Daedric Prince. Those guys are just part of the system, too, whereas I have a different stature in the world.

A lot of people seem to think that becoming a god (Aedra or Daedra alike) is something worth achieving, but that is, in my opinion, frankly the wrong approach, why settle for being a god when there's a real challenging goal out there: God?

My take on it: nothing would happen when the Champion picked up the Scourge other than some serious butt-kicking of all who stand against the Champion when wielding the weapon.

Agree with Nalion.

I dont belive that he really have changed or turned to become a Daedra. He has just gotten some epic power free of charge, he's still a mortal.

The PC never was a mortal His Death is at his whim alone (load and all that). He is more God than any other in TES if you think about, except for the "be everywhere anytime" limitation which is well.. a technical thing. Btw. I think they should introduce a God of technical limitation, that would explain a lot of things Lore wise

Yeah if you see it like that. But then he can do completly as he wish even ruining the game or effect the console the game is in. lol

The player is a mortal filling the role of a Daedra Prince, not a Daedra Prince himself. While the distinction is easily blurred in the eyes of the mad residents of the Isles, it's still there.


Already there. Lorkhan.

I remember a discussion about whether or not the PC became a daedra when he took Sheo's role taking place a while ago. I think it was concluded that "Prince" is the actual title, while whatever comes before it is just a description of the Prince, so the player would be an "*insert race here* Prince".

If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

The term you are looking for is "Void Ghost Eaters", who practice trickster-magic.

At the end of SI not even Jyggalag knew if the new mad prince was a god or not, therefore all views on whether or not he is a god are nothing more than a guess based on personal preference. SI ended that way so that you could deicide whether or not he was a god or not, rpg's with role playing elements? what's next!?

Could it not be said that the Champion "mantled" Sheogorath?

Of course, it is entirely possible to go through all of SI without doing Sheogorath's Shrine Quest. After beating SI, you go to Sheogorath's Shrine... truly, it is madness!

According to KotN, however, Umaril somehow managed to become part Daedra -- not a Daedric Prince, but still, "daedra" is certainly a step above "pathetic mortal." On the other hand, Umaril was half-Ayleid, half-something else (not one of the usual races, but I forget what it was). :shrug:

Don't think he was "part Daedra." I think he's part et'Ada (Original Spirit), which comprises both Aedra and Daedra; he's basically a demigod, in a sense.

I'm a bit confused on something though...SHEOG is the "Sithis-shaped hole" Lorkhan left, which in turn makes him the Serpent constellation. So...the "real" SHEOG is JYG now... is the hole closed now, with SHEOG's duties belonging to someone else now? What are the potential implications of this occurence?

I feel that's a valid question.

Half-daedra actually I believe, but mortals are much more than you make them to be. They are the only bearers of .. you know. They can transcend anyone, but the Daedra and their Princes are just "freedoms within limitations" so to speak, which is kind of pathetic.

Waitaminnit. Isnt sithis the "God' of limitaitons? The interplay of Anu and Padomay, Anuiel, and Sithis? Anuiel= inifinite + Sithis= finite = People are Six feet tall, instead of infinite representations of themselves?

Sithis is the sum of all limits, the primordial force that is one half the shape of NIRN. Or am I just going bonkers as usual?

I thought it was the other way around: Sithis is infinite and Anui-el is finite; Sithis is "the start of the House" is it not? How can the proverbial "Void" be finite?

Well the 'start' of the house still implies a beginning, a limitation as it were.