I am trying to find the music from the trailer of Daggerfall. Anyone know where to get it? Even if it is only a YouTube video. I would like to verify if Bethesda used an in-house orchestra to record a super-short part of the whole movement, or if that was a recording of the whole movement. If not, I'm dying to hear the rest and carry it around with me on my Ipod. The music in the trailer is from Antonin Dvorak's Suite in A Major, "American Suite", Op. 98b. It's the final Allegro movement.

Go get it Lycos! Good boy!

P.S. - By "where to get it", I mean where can I get it legally!

Hmm... I'll have to check to be sure, but I think Future Shock included the Daggerfall trailer on the CD. Since I still have a copy of Future Shock, I'll take a look for you.

Edit: The bad news is that the trailer isn't on the Future Shock CD. The good news is that the trailer is on the Skynet CD, so I'll see what I can do to make it available.

It was not recorded by Bethesda themselves, but I don't know what recording they licensed to use.

I bought http://www.amazon.com/Dvorak-Symphony-No-American-Suite/dp/B0000041YK years ago, which is performed by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in London, and while there are differences compared to the recording used in the Daggerfall trailer, they are extremely minor.

Also, in my opinion, those 70 seconds that are used in the Daggerfall trailer is the best piece of the 20 minute Suite. So you already heard the best part

The trailer I can get rather easily on the web. What I want is the whole piece, of which I think only a fragment was put into the trailer.


Aww, really? What a shame! If only Dvorak knew how awesome that part was perhaps he would have made it last longer.

Ah. Well, I can't help you there, so good luck with your search.

Ah, I just heard it on rhapsody.com. It's very beautiful! I wish the whole Allegro was so quick and moving, but alas it is mostly a sleepy tune after the first minute or so (what you hear in the trailer).

I"m sure you could buy the track from any number of online services for about $1. It's also pretty easy to find CDs with that suite.

It's too bad it costs so much to make recordings of any piece of music requiring a large orchestra. The chances of finding it free are usually next to zero. I think the BBC released a bunch of classical downloads at one point, but it was for a limited time. They record and play a lot of it in their shows, but I suspect releasing it as standalone downloads would conflict with the agreements they made to license music from label (since they sell recordings of the same stuff).

Since I don't have a copy of the suite I can't say much about Freddo's comment. I like a lot of Dvorak's music, though. Some of it is quite popular and famous and I think it's for good reason.

I don't remember if I saw this on these forums or somewhere else, but check out this page -
http://www.rhmusic.net/dfmusicproject/music.html

It has new (well new-ish) arrangements of the game's music. Winter Gray is my favorite - it haunts you!

Yeah, that's been around for a while. I actually posted at his forum about DaggerXL in the hopes that Robert Hood might be willing to continue the Daggerfall Music Project for use with DaggerXL, but as inactive as the forum has been I don't think he's noticed. I should probably try emailing him.

Yeah I saw that. That actually inspired me to email him about it yesterday! Ha ha!

You should email him too, it wouldn't hurt.

Ah, the Daggerfall trailer. I love that classical piece. I've been hunting for the specific orchestration used by the video but have been unable to locate it anywhere. Therein lies the problem with classical music, being notes on paper and not an actual audial composition - you hear one rendition and love it, but it's one in a sea of millions.

Coincidentally, as a fan of the Team Fortress series (all the games, mind you) I've often enjoyed the bit of music used in the original QuakeWorld Team Fortress http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FVJ__rBFxk. Interestingly it's part of Carmina Burana (and, in my opinion, infinitely more memorable than the overused O Fortuna crap that people always use in their videos) and the specific clip used when making the trailer can be found in the game's data files.

Still wish I could find the full version from which that snippet was derived, though.

In that case, I will.

American Suite, B. 190 (Op. 98b): V. Allegro
Composed by Dvorak,
From Symphony No.9, American Suite
Recorded by Libor Pesek & Royal Liverpool Orchestra.

I bought it on iTunes a month ago.

Nailed it huh? How'd you know you recorded/performed it?

Reading http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_MY0ihuJZc only video on YouTube gives the title of the song and what Allegro movement it is from :

"The music in the trailer is from Antonin Dvorak's Suite in A Major, "American Suite", Op. 98b. It's the final Allegro movement. "

As soon as I read this, I rushed to the iTunes store to buy it for a mere dollar.

Maybe he's not telling you how he bought every recording he could find!

Hehe actually I also bought the fourth Allegro movement, thinking it would be similar to the fifth. But I don't know much about classical pieces naming, so it turned out to be a different style, which was very beautiful. I do not regret my mistake. I guess I'll purchase the other movements as well.

It was a reasonable guess. Those descriptors really describe the tempo and often the feeling the performers are supposed to inflict on the written notes. They're all in Italian because Italy got to be the centre of western music for a while when properly writing it down became common. Modern pieces often have all kinds of English descriptors to use. Allegro ~= fast.

If that's http://www.amazon.com/Dvorak-Symphony-World-American-Suite/dp/B0002W128K/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1251368784&sr=1-5, it can't be the one used in the Daggerfall trailer, seeing how it's from 2005 (although I guess it could be a re-release of an older recording). But I did also listen to the free samples on Amazon, it doesn't sound the same as the DF trailer. I think the recording I linked to earlier sounds closer to the DF trailer.


Indeed

American Suite part I is "Andante con moto"
American Suite part II is "Allegro"
American Suite part III is "Moderato (alla polacca)"
American Suite part IV is "Andante"
American Suite part V is "Allegro"

What they stand for can be read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempo#Italian_tempo_markings.

Hmm. Once DaggerXL reaches a fully playable state I've been thinking of making a spiritual recreation of Daggerfall's trailer, showcasing the visual upgrades, miscalleneous improvements, and maybe even some early mods. It could be years before the thing supports all that, but it's making steady progress - progress that would sound awesome next to American Suite.

Yeah, that would be pretty awesome! :foodndrink:

Both part V that we linked are the same actually.
I basically wrote what iTunes told me on the sample I bought. The song lasts 3:18, but Bethesda only used the first minute, as the song gets less intense afterwards.
Even though it's from 2005, the song and notes stay the same, and they used the same instruments as well.

Of course the song is the same, but the recording isn't. And it doesn't sound like either are the same recording as used in the Daggerfall trailer.

Just because the notes and instruments are the same, it doesn't mean it sounds the same. If you listen to the samples of the respective CDs, you will notice that they sound very different when it comes to the volume of certain instruments and reverb and so on, not to mention the skills of the performers. That's the whole issue on why this thread was created, as we known for years now which musical piece gamesas used in the trailer, but not what recording.

Woops!
And that's the part where I slowly run away in shame of misreading the thread... :bolt:


:P

I PMed Gstaff about it and he emailed their audio department about who performed that particular rendition. I'll post a follow-up if he ever gets a response.