Eh, that's cool. If everyone had the same opinions, things around here would get pretty boring. Probably have to change the name of the game to Lemmingwind. As for lore, well, let's just say I'm not as big a stickler about that as a lot of people seem to be. There are some very good mods out there that are hardly lore correct, but I wouldn't play without them. But I guess my idea of hyper extended fingers could work pretty well with the emaciated look. I have a picture in the back of my head that is a perfect example of what I'm thinking about, but it takes me forever to find pics on my computer these days. Really need to finish sorting them.

I'm not a lore "fanatic" .... I don't mind bending it, I just don't want to obliterate it.

I could, but that would enlargen the workload, and I've already got quite a few things I have to finish. Horns on the mask would be easy, plus the eyball things on the top, but in my opinion, making Ur's mask sort of like http://chorrol.com/files/157/ambberfox_mask.jpg would be the best option.


Like http://i31.tinypic.com/ic2zvl.jpg? I had tried to make him look buff, I think it could do with some more veins though. :hehe:

Well I doubt he gets any food, living in a volcano for hundreds of years.... unless he eats ash zombies. :facepalm:

What a fool you are, he's a god! He doesn't need food.

LOL, I was about to more or less say the same thing. Immortals don't need to eat, drink or procreate. If they do any of that it is strictly for pleasure.
I'm sure most of you recall that Dagoth Endus offers the PC a drink of Ancient Dagoth Brandy. If the player accepts, both the player and Endus have a drink...but that doesn't mean Endus NEEDS to drink.

Kind of off topic: if anyone is up to it, http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs4/i/2004/212/5/e/Bel_Demon.jpg is sort of how I picture Dagoth Ur, minus the wings, at least where his clothing is concerned. A high-collared red coat, tattered around the edges (though that picture clearly isn't), with the emblem of the Sixth House displayed across the back. He would also be wearing lots of rings, amulets, bracelets, etc., rusted and tarnished from age. In short, ruined finery, left over from his days in the elite of Chimer society.

I think that if you were going to change him that you would want to change Vivec and Almalexia as well. After all, neither of them is really all that clothed, which fits pretty well with Dagoth Ur's look - either they weren't as much into coverage back then, or gods stop worrying about that sort of thing as time goes on.

I'd love to have a version of Voryn that looks like http://badhead-gadroon.deviantart.com/art/Lord-Dagoth-73490260...

Oh, it's not a "decency" issue, haha.

In my mind, the members of the Tribunal are vain and conceited beings, and so they choose to lock themselves in the age and appearance that they wore when they gained their powers. This same vanity causes them to flaunt their physical perfection, to wear almost ridiculous clothing so that all can admire their form. However, Voryn Dagoth seems not to care about appearances- the Heart blasted him into a monster, and it doesn't matter to him. On that same note, he wouldn't particularly care what he was wearing, so, in my mind, he would be wearing the same ruined clothing that he wore on the day that everything went to hell for him.

http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=4315 over at Elric M
It makes Dagoth Ur a BB NPC so it doesn't have the cretures animations and you wouldn't be able to soul trap him, it was a Beta and work never continued on it.

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Without his animations he just loses his personality, changing him to an NPC isn't really an option..

As I said though, a far as the mesh itself goes, all it needs is a few smoothed verticies here and there, there isn't that much room for improvement.

There's no limits to what you can do with creature anims, so make it the actual hand, and give it some rockin' morph anims. You'd have to alter his anims to get him using a bow, and he'd unequip it at times .
I'd like one that stuck to the original concept, to me that concept has Dagoth Ur down better than anything else, and SWG is right, the model only needs to be less blocky, (maybe a meshsmooth with smoothing groups setup would be enough, can have wierd effects sometimes though,) cause the mesh is already unsegmented.

Wish I had time to do this myself (though I'd probably waste time redoing the anims), good luck to whoever tries this one though. :foodndrink:

That was kind of the point of his original appearance.

Just a side note ..a BB Dagoth Ur would incompatible with DNGDR

Even if it is a mesh/texture replacer with no .esp?

Why?

Well, I can see this sparked quite a discussion.

I have another mod inquiry; Is there a mod that prevents the bag of items from being placed in a house if you put too many items on display, or just increases the amount of items you can put in a given house at one time?

I could see this thread being changed to "T3T's Mod Inquiries" but I dunno. I feel like I'm cheating on Fallout 3 with Morrowind. Hahaha.

Because DNGDR doesn't use the vanilla Dagoth Ur mesh

Good to know.

Ok I just encountered someone who had no idea what I was talking about with that mod request, so I'll clarify.

I usually take the dark elf noble's house to the right of the council building in Balmora, I kill him, get rid of his things, put my things away, this and that.

I'll usually put favorite and rarer armors on display.

But there will come a time when the house gets sick of all the things I put in it, and spawns a bag to keep the rest of it in, and all new items put into the interior space of the house will go in this bag. And I HATE IT.

It was probably an issue with remembering all that crap in the interior back when PCs had a hard time meeting morrowind's demands, but Oblivion happily obeys my every command. So... yeah. I want to display more stuff.

There is a limit to how many items you can have in a cell. That's when the bag spawns. IIRC Oblivion has the same thing, it just takes more things for it to spawn. I also believe that the limit is hard coded into the game, so a simple mod couldn't change that.

I wish there was an article on UESP to verify that...

Its not really and per item limit per cell ..... its a polygon "face" limit & its around a million faces per cell.

Example: a simple cube mesh would have 6 faces 1 for each side .... but a smooth sphere could easily have over a thousands faces.

With complexed objects the faces add up quick.

This is why its important to optimize custom meshes ..... even if the faces are hidden they still count.

And there is no way to increase the limit?