Damn I've been spotted.. why? : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:40 am

I break into the place trough the basemant and when I'm inside the living room I get spotted instantly.. or when that person returns back to his/her home runs to me like he/she knows I'm there.. Is there anything I can do about this? I don't like the fact that the NPC's know my every move when I'm inside their houses, the same goes for the NPC's when I'm inside a store

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:17 am

The place? What place? What is your character doing when you're noticed--sneaking, or just standing there? Are you in the shadows? What is your character wearing? Are there any spells in effect?

No offense, but you really haven't provided the background necessary to respond.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:01 am

The place? What place? What is your character doing when you're noticed--sneaking, or just standing there? Are you in the shadows? What is your character wearing? Are there any spells in effect?

No offense, but you really haven't provided the background necessary to respond.

Sneaking... I broke into a basemant its Alberic Litte's house and I make my way up the stairs when I go trough the door his wife starts running down the stairs directly to me like she knew I was there and the living room was well lit. The other time was when I broke into someones house in Skingrad and I forgot who it was I was on the top floor of the house and when she walked into the house she ran all the way up the stairs to me.. like she knew I was there and that time I was in the shadows so being in the shadows or in a lighted area doesn't matter nor does it matter what I wear

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:54 am

You only tell what happens but not the information needed for people to try and help you. What is needed is information like your load order(So they know which mods you are using.), what kind of armor is your character wearing...what is your characters sneak level and agility, things like that.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:22 am

You only tell what happens but not the information needed for people to try and help you. What is needed is information like your load order(So they know which mods you are using.), what kind of armor is your character wearing...what is your characters sneak level and agility, things like that.

This has nothing to do with mods... the armor im wearing would be leather boots and leather bracers.. .the rest of the stuff is cloth -_- the sneak and agility would be... oh well sneak is 64 and agility 57
This is something that should appear to most people that play this game i just want to know what did you people do about it.. do you just rob citizens and shopkeepers when they are asleep. I can't I got TIE which puts guards in most shops so that I can't rob them.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:47 am

It could have something to do with your mods, so post your load order unless you are using no mods. If that is the case, then you shouldn't be asking this in the mod section.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:54 pm

It could have something to do with your mods, so post your load order unless you are using no mods. If that is the case, then you shouldn't be asking this in the mod section.

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I still haven't resolved the issue in balance between fran's items and TIE

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:26 pm

I still haven't resolved the issue in balance between fran's items and TIE

And you're not going to while still using version 1.40 of TIE. It's up to 1.45 now. There was also a detection fix that will probably take care of your issue with people zeroing in on you like you're a beacon.

So yes, it's probably mod related and that's why it helps to know which ones you're using and what versions they are

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:07 am

Arthmoor would certainly know better, being the Guardian of TIE, but I would assume this still applies, from the ReadMe:

***At present, T.I.E. is not compatible with any of the other overhauls (OOO, MMM, Frans, FCOM, etc). Version 1.25 of TIE4Mods caters to those seeking integration with other overhauls.***

So, yeah, conflicts.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:01 am

There's that too. TIE and OOO are not 100% friendly with each other, but still, most of the described issues would be fixed by either updating TIE or removing one of the overhauls.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:11 pm

There's that too. TIE and OOO are not 100% friendly with each other, but still, most of the described issues would be fixed by either updating TIE or removing one of the overhauls.

I'm not using any other overhaul... if i were using i would simply put it before TIE to avoid conflicts... well the big problems but i would still be missing some stuff, but it doesnt matter since i don't use any overhaul
One more thing Arthmoor is there a scale value for weapons and armour used in TIE? I want to modify some values for weapons and armour that I made to balance them out
Thanks anyways I already know I'm outdated

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:02 am

TIE weapons are all (now) roughly 2x the damage of vanilla weapons, with a bit of overage for the heavy two-handed hammers. Shields are all roughly 3x the armor rating with an appropriate boost to the shield's health if it's lower than 2000 points. There's no set formula I used for that though, just picked values that seemed fitting. Armor for the most part isn't messed with except to make mithril items lighter.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:16 am

TIE weapons are all (now) roughly 2x the damage of vanilla weapons, with a bit of overage for the heavy two-handed hammers. Shields are all roughly 3x the armor rating with an appropriate boost to the shield's health if it's lower than 2000 points. There's no set formula I used for that though, just picked values that seemed fitting. Armor for the most part isn't messed with except to make mithril items lighter.

I've downloaded the latest TIE version and it includes TIE + Frans , does this mean that the armour rating and damage has been balanced as well?
I also want to know more about Weapon and Armour filter where can i read for more info? I didn't notice it in the readme
Oh and will it conflict if i put Illegal looting on EE?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:18 am

Didn't I already say that? :blink:

The filter could use some info in the readme, yes, but in Bash if you look at the master list that will tell you what mods it's able to support using the same rough formula. Most of those weapons and shields it supports were from mods that had been aligned around vanilla stats before and are adjusted to bring them into sync with what TIE expects. So you'll be in for an even bigger world of hurt in combat than before

TIE and EE go together well and don't interfere with each other at all.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:52 am

Didn't I already say that? :blink:

The filter could use some info in the readme, yes, but in Bash if you look at the master list that will tell you what mods it's able to support using the same rough formula. Most of those weapons and shields it supports were from mods that had been aligned around vanilla stats before and are adjusted to bring them into sync with what TIE expects. So you'll be in for an even bigger world of hurt in combat than before

TIE and EE go together well and don't interfere with each other at all.

Updated and everything, seems to be working fine so far I'll keep you posted